Daendrew Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Donald Trump is worse than Joffrey. He is a petulant blonde bastard that wants the world to fear him, love him and swear fealty to His Golden Grace. #HyuuuugeWedding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Reborn Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Of course Donald Trump is worse than Joffery. He exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 no rightwing populist, however illiberal, could be 'worse' than an absolute monarchy. perspective, FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The guy from the Vale Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 sologdin,what is the difference between an absolute monarchy and a nominal republic led by a fascist dictator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daendrew Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share Posted December 8, 2015 no rightwing populist, however illiberal, could be 'worse' than an absolute monarchy. perspective, FFS.Can you imagine Trump negotiating with lowly congressmen on OMNIBUS spending or minutiae in highway spending bills? He regularly had Hitler speeches on his nightstand and raped his wife, pulling hair and skin from her scalp. He doesn't want a democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sologdin Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 the comparison is beyond outrageous. come back after trump invades 20 or so sovereign states without legitimate casus belli and orders the execution of ~11M human persons.guy--the de jure difference is immeasurable. there may be some de facto convergence on specific policies and practices, though I doubt it amounts to anything substantial. seriously, can there be any comparison between justinian and mussolini? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The guy from the Vale Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Sologdin: Sure, de jure there's a massive difference. I'm asking about the de facto differences. Is the Democratic Republic of Korea a democracy? Is it even a republic, considering there's only one family been in power in that nation, ever? Was the Third Reich substantially different from an absolute monarchy in de facto terms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daendrew Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share Posted December 8, 2015 He wants to bomb Iran and start a war to prevent them from getting a bomb, which they would almost certainly acheive if we do. He wants to bomb North Korea to do the same. He wanted the US to invade Syria. Said McCain wasn't a war hero. Source: http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Donald_Trump_War_+_Peace.htm This is how liberty dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daendrew Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share Posted December 8, 2015 Trump says “closing that Internet” is a good way to fight terrorism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I think you're insulting Holocaust victims and pretty much any victim of WWII to compare him to Hitler. Trump is a fucking joke politically. Hitler was a fucking nightmare politically. Check out Godwin's Law before invoking Hitler in the future. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Walker Texas Ranger Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 the comparison is beyond outrageous. come back after trump invades 20 or so sovereign states without legitimate casus belli and orders the execution of ~11M human persons.guy--the de jure difference is immeasurable. there may be some de facto convergence on specific policies and practices, though I doubt it amounts to anything substantial. seriously, can there be any comparison between justinian and mussolini?I'd much rather have Justinian than Mussolini.I think you're insulting Holocaust victims and pretty much any victim of WWII to compare him to Hitler. Trump is a fucking joke politically. Hitler was a fucking nightmare politically. Check out Godwin's Law before invoking Hitler in the future. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_LawHitler was a joke until he wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears of Lys Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Man, this convo has devolved IMMEASURABLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Hitler was a joke until he wasn't. I would bet my mortgage that we will still be laughing at Donald in November of next year. There simply aren't enough scared old white people to make this happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Fool Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Man this topic is so hot right now. It's so hot.Donald Trump is awful, no need to get bogged down in the specifics of how awful compared to other awful people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldric Shadowchaser Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Despite everything he said, I find it more worrying that he is doing so well in the polls. What does that say about the state of american society and the republican party? It seems to me that everytime one of those candidates says something outrages and ignorant, they climbe up the poll a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biglose Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Source: http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Donald_Trump_War_+_Peace.htm This is kind of interesting. There are several issues on which I guess everybody can agree on (just not everybody on the same once).And he is speaking them always plainly.Assad is a bad guy, but without him chaos.Iraq war stupid.Problem with islam.We should not have intervened in yugoslavia (where we the Nato is still)The point is that he is all over the place. But he speaks on those issues clearly and openly. This leads to the reaction: Finally somebody who dares to call a spade a spade.This further shows how stupid the comparism to Hitler is. Trump makes a completly different approach than Hitler (even if one is to disregard about 80 million dead people).Trump is a product of political correctness and political speak. He probably not really more racist than a some other republican major politicians. He just does not use the dog whistle tactic. (Hell considering he was a democratic supporter for the majority of his live, I would not even be surprised if most of his "racism" is more or less avarage level. The differance is, that he just openly says every racist bullshit he thinks...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I think you're insulting Holocaust victims and pretty much any victim of WWII to compare him to Hitler. Trump is a fucking joke politically. Hitler was a fucking nightmare politically. Check out Godwin's Law before invoking Hitler in the future. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_LawI'm Jewish, and normally I hate when people compare people they hate to Hitler. This isn't one of those times.As WWTR said, Hitler was a joke until he wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordfish Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Man, this convo has devolved IMMEASURABLY. In fairness, it started near the bottom, so there wasn't far to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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