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Richard Morgan + Netflix = ALTERED CARBON TV series

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13 minutes ago, Martini Sigil said:

So if I wanted to read this before it airs, the book Altered Carbon is the first in the series?... it looks amazing

 

 


Yeah. And it's fucking brilliant definitely read it.

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13 hours ago, AncalagonTheBlack said:

I'm scared of those kind of claims given the shows that get cancelled by netflix are often the ones with that kind of accolade eg Marco Polo and Sense8. There's definitely a cost per view ratio (that's unknown to us) going on at netflix and having it stacked high to begin with puts a lot of pressure on the show - more than the usual positive of "they must have a lot of faith in the show to spend this much".

The scary thing is that if they were to follow the books - they'd have to spend as much (maybe more) for another season due to

it having a very different setting and more war style action than street fighting.

. I'm hoping they adapt Altered carbon in its entirety for season 1 but part of me wonders whether season 2 would be better suited to new stories that continue the cyber noir detective angle than those in book 2? Guess I'm getting ahead of myself which again is why i really hope season 1 is book 1.

9 hours ago, Martini Sigil said:

So if I wanted to read this before it airs, the book Altered Carbon is the first in the series?... it looks amazing

 

Yup - it's not too long a read either. Additionally while the trilogy is a continuing series each book is very much its own thing so it's not like you need to read all three in one go. Although you may find it hard to resist the temptation.

Altered Carbon will always hold a special place for me as it was what got me back into reading fiction as a student when my flatmate (who was a part time bookseller) pushed it on me, along with "his dark materials" in his ongoing quest to get me to read books again. It worked.

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My recollection is that it was indicated that they were not planning to follow the books, that they'll stick to the milieu of the first novel and, presumably, tell stories more like that one than the later stories. Not sure if Richard indicated it here at some point, or maybe I'm just conflating past speculations from fans, but that's my recollection.

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2 hours ago, Ran said:

My recollection is that it was indicated that they were not planning to follow the books, that they'll stick to the milieu of the first novel and, presumably, tell stories more like that one than the later stories. Not sure if Richard indicated it here at some point, or maybe I'm just conflating past speculations from fans, but that's my recollection.

That would be for the best, I think. I loved AC but wasnt wild about the following two books, the third being barely readable, imho. 

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So if I wanted to read this before it airs, the book Altered Carbon is the first in the series?... it looks amazing

As Relic indicates above, a lot of people like to think of Altered Carbon as the only book in the series. Which is a bit harsh, the sequels are both fine, they're just not yet more cyberpunk noir, which was commercially risky but creatively I think the right tack to take. Morgan's Black Man (Thirteen in the USA) is also excellent and, although it's not, you can squint and read it as a prequel to Altered Carbon if you want. The Land Fit for Heroes "fantasy" trilogy is also set in the Altered Carbon universe, although it's completely different in story and style.

 

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My recollection is that it was indicated that they were not planning to follow the books, that they'll stick to the milieu of the first novel and, presumably, tell stories more like that one than the later stories. Not sure if Richard indicated it here at some point, or maybe I'm just conflating past speculations from fans, but that's my recollection.

 

Netflix wants the show to last for 5 seasons, so their early plan is to mix the novels with original storylines. To what extent will be determined by how well Season 1 does.

They don't need to care about holding the cast though, which is interesting. The first show since Doctor Who I think which has done that.

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14 hours ago, red snow said:

The scary thing is that if they were to follow the books - they'd have to spend as much (maybe more) for another season due to

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it having a very different setting and more war style action than street fighting.

. I'm hoping they adapt Altered carbon in its entirety for season 1 but part of me wonders whether season 2 would be better suited to new stories that continue the cyber noir detective angle than those in book 2? Guess I'm getting ahead of myself which again is why i really hope season 1 is book 1.

It's been a long time since I've read them, but I seem to remember there were big time gaps between the books so I think there's plenty of space to fit in some other things Kovacs might have done before getting to Broken Angels.

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6 minutes ago, williamjm said:

It's been a long time since I've read them, but I seem to remember there were big time gaps between the books so I think there's plenty of space to fit in some other things Kovacs might have done before getting to Broken Angels.


There are time gaps, but

the ending of Altered Carbon itself has him leaving Earth immediately, iirc. And certainly leaving the body- I do wonder how they're gonna deal with that part. Like, if they get to later books, by the mores of the world they cannot have the same actor. But by the laws of TV commercialism they're going to want to.

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Saw the images on Reddit a few days ago, thought they were fan art, but they look good. By the way, this series isn't animated, right?

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On 28/11/2017 at 8:19 AM, Ran said:

My recollection is that it was indicated that they were not planning to follow the books, that they'll stick to the milieu of the first novel and, presumably, tell stories more like that one than the later stories. Not sure if Richard indicated it here at some point, or maybe I'm just conflating past speculations from fans, but that's my recollection.

It rings a vague bell and I think it would make more sense for an ongoing tv show to find a way of maintaining the aesthetic of the first book - otherwise it would become something akin to an anthology as the follow ups are pretty different.

I think I said way back that I'd love for them to expand upon the "patchwork man" or the AI hotel.

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Nice.

AltCarb sounds like it's some sort of diet fad twitter feed, though.

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The only one of these I really liked was 13.

Those trailers or whatever they are:  one can't judge by them, since it's so easy to make something that short and detatched from story, character and action look promisingly dramatic and exciting.  Trailers for Thor: Ragnorok, gives the impression that the Hulk and Thor are going to thunder throughout the universe -- yet in the scale of the film the Hulk was hardly there.

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4 hours ago, Werthead said:

Collated.

This looks awesome.

Do you have a link to where you got those extra videos?  I'm not getting any sound from them on your blog.

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15 minutes ago, RedEyedGhost said:

Do you have a link to where you got those extra videos?  I'm not getting any sound from them on your blog.

What I said above. 

Although, some in the comments are now saying that those are leaked. If that's true I don't know what the policy is here when it comes to linking to that stuff. I originally thought those were released in a way similar to the older gifs. :dunno:

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There is no sound attached to them. I assumed they were posted like that as part of the viral marketing campaign, but yeah, they could be leaks. The watermark suggests that.

Someone on Reddit claimed to work on the show:

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The size of the sets were amazing. They built 2 blocks of 3 storey buildings on either side of an alleyway inside a studio that used to be a newsprint shop and we had to make it all waterproof because they sprayed water from above for practical rain. The production value of Netflix shows are very high.

 

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1 hour ago, Werthead said:

There is no sound attached to them. I assumed they were posted like that as part of the viral marketing campaign, but yeah, they could be leaks. The watermark suggests that.

Aw, cool, thanks.

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The use of Vimeo makes me think these were leaked somewhere in the special effects production chain, given the fact that all the shots feature significant amounts of effects work. Lots of the SFX houses and SFX artists use Vimeo as their preferred place for FX reels and so on.

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