dariopatke Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Does Ramsay have enough plot armor to win battle of bastards and keep WF? Or escape and go to Dreadfort at least? Will he kill Roose and Walda (for Walda Im pretty much sure), or will Roose escape WF and let Ramsay die defending it? Who will Ramsay burn before the battle? I go for Rickon and Osha or Roose and Walda (it will be like see what I did to my father and brother, imagine what I will do to you) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Friendzone Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 He will lose the battle and WF, but if he dies...not sure about this. Yes, he will kill Roose and Walda with her baby. Rickon is not the one cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyBazooka Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I don't get why Ramsay would kill Roose, doesn't he crave his father's acceptance? Still, can't underestimate the stupidity of the Ds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 1 hour ago, LazyBazooka said: I don't get why Ramsay would kill Roose, doesn't he crave his father's acceptance? Still, can't underestimate the stupidity of the Ds. He already has his father's acceptance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonSnowed Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I feel confident Ramsay is going to take out Walda and Roose this season and ultimately lose the battle for Winterfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dariopatke Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 Do you think he will release 20 good men again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ghost of Someone Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Actually, I think some of the spoilers released were deliberately false. The bodies on the crosses I think will be surprises. I think Roose may get killed by an infiltrator into Winterfell with Stark loyalties or some other treachery, say if he leaves with a guard to meet Littlefinger before he arrives at Winterfell and discovers that Sansa is gone, thereby giving Ramsay time to find her and bring her back. Roose will arrive at the Battle of the Bastards with Littlefinger only to be betrayed by Littlefinger near the end of the battle when LF decides who wins and who dies. While he is gone, Walda will not be harmed by Ramsay. Her fate will be decided by the Starks, including Sansa, if she lives after the battle. I bet on Walda and baby surviving. I know, seems unlikely but I think she will. Ramsay will run but will most likely end up hunted and killed by Shaggy Dog, if Rickon is killed and he lives in him as a Warg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dariopatke Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 I Think LF already knows who lives and who dies, both armies will have 15k men combined woth approximatly same number of men, LF will bring at least 20k men so he is pretty much the one calling shots, he will be even if he comes with 10k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ghost of Someone Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Littlefinger always plays to make sure he is alive and owed something by the victors. I think though, they, the show will keep him in the dark as to what Sansa endured in Season 5 for a purpose that may not play out till next season. Ramsay should die because they are introducing Euron Greyjoy, who will probably have a bigger season next year. Ramsay will have to go, just as they had Joff die to expand Ramsay's role. They love the villains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris Brass Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Hopefully the Bolton's bite the dust in the upcoming season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCasualObserver Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 On 1/23/2016 at 3:54 AM, A Ghost of Someone said: Littlefinger always plays to make sure he is alive and owed something by the victors. I think though, they, the show will keep him in the dark as to what Sansa endured in Season 5 for a purpose that may not play out till next season. Ramsay should die because they are introducing Euron Greyjoy, who will probably have a bigger season next year. Ramsay will have to go, just as they had Joff die to expand Ramsay's role. They love the villains. The problem I see there is that I don't know why the Bolton's would trust LF. Surely the phrase "there's no such thing as a free lunch" has a Westerosi equivalent. LF has given the Bolton's everything they want - they must assume he has an ulterior motive. And if LF was always planning this, did Sansa need to go to Winterfell? Without that, both Bolton and LF are supposedly loyal agents of the crown, so they would theoretically expect to work together anyway. And if you think Ramsay is going to die, you've sorely underestimated the power of the twenty good men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ghost of Someone Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, TheCasualObserver said: The problem I see there is that I don't know why the Bolton's would trust LF. Surely the phrase "there's no such thing as a free lunch" has a Westerosi equivalent. LF has given the Bolton's everything they want - they must assume he has an ulterior motive. And if LF was always planning this, did Sansa need to go to Winterfell? Without that, both Bolton and LF are supposedly loyal agents of the crown, so they would theoretically expect to work together anyway. And if you think Ramsay is going to die, you've sorely underestimated the power of the twenty good men. There is no way around it. The show runners wanted Sansa to endure what she did out of their thoughts that it would be good, gritty tv. That somewhat backfired on them. LF, the show runners claim, had no idea that she would be put through what she was and there has to be some consequences for that. Everything LF told her in the Crypt before he left her there turned out to be wrong. From Stannis winning, Ramsay having affection and not perversion for her etc. Her being "untouchable" as of her value etc. Everything turned out opposite of what he said to her. Something, logically, should come out of that. Sansa should hate him for what her put her through, just as much as she hates Ramsay. Alas, the show may not make it that way at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryptofCthulhu Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 On 1/23/2016 at 9:30 AM, Kris Brass said: Hopefully the Bolton's bite the dust in the upcoming season. At least Ramsay. Good riddance to the psychopath that just wanted daddy's approval. Cliche as hell and there for no other reason than to show "gritty" medieval reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Writhen Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Oh come on Ramsay is great fun. But versus Jon? He'd prolly be toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philpenn Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Ramsay cut through the best the Iron Islands had to offer like they were butter. Jon only killed the two baddest guys he has faced due to some lucky fluke. Not sure Jon would have that easy a time with Ramsay, if he could even deal with him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ghost of Someone Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Philpenn said: Ramsay cut through the best the Iron Islands had to offer like they were butter. Jon only killed the two baddest guys he has faced due to some lucky fluke. Not sure Jon would have that easy a time with Ramsay, if he could even deal with him at all. The show has made Ramsay look nearly invincible in single combat while Jon has to work hard for every one he wins. So it seems anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Friendzone Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 11 hours ago, Philpenn said: Ramsay cut through the best the Iron Islands had to offer like they were butter. Jon only killed the two baddest guys he has faced due to some lucky fluke. Not sure Jon would have that easy a time with Ramsay, if he could even deal with him at all. Ramsay is Gary Stu villain type. Good at everything, everything fall fr him and he can kill anyone. If he's gonna fight Jon shirtless...JOn is screwed. Not to mention 20 good men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Harbors Wrath Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 On 1/25/2016 at 7:22 PM, A Ghost of Someone said: There is no way around it. The show runners wanted Sansa to endure what she did out of their thoughts that it would be good, gritty tv. That somewhat backfired on them. LF, the show runners claim, had no idea that she would be put through what she was and there has to be some consequences for that. Everything LF told her in the Crypt before he left her there turned out to be wrong. From Stannis winning, Ramsay having affection and not perversion for her etc. Her being "untouchable" as of her value etc. Everything turned out opposite of what he said to her. Something, logically, should come out of that. Sansa should hate him for what her put her through, just as much as she hates Ramsay. Alas, the show may not make it that way at all. Logic...I'll lay odds we won't see much of that lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordImp Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Bolton are finished. Ramsay feels he's position is threteaned when Walda gives birth. So he kills Walda , the baby and Roose. Then he dies loosing WF. Its only 3 seasons left and the White walkers are coming. The Boltons need to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ghost of Someone Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 2 hours ago, White Harbors Wrath said: Logic...I'll lay odds we won't see much of that lol. I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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