Jaak Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 How do you think they´d work? Remember, as of the end of Dance with Dragons, Stannis and Jon are both dead, Shireen is not and Rickon is nearby. And Ramsay, though victorious in the seven day battle, is not loved by those who fought for him, like Wyman... Would Walda like some Bolton pie? (Did she share the Frey ones?) So: how about Stannis´ and Stark royalists putting Shireen on Iron Throne and Rickon in her bed as her husband and, when grown, Lord Protector of 7 Kingdoms, like Daemon was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ravenstark Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Sansa and Aegon. No, Bran and Dany. No, wait, Bloodraven and Arya. Targaryen loyalist can unite the North with the he rest of the kingdoms. Jokes apart, I don't think that would work much. Few Westerosi would fight for a woman, they don't like women with political power. Specially not a child. And, sadly, definitively not Shireen. The hopes would be on Iron Bank money, and even that would be… slim at best. So marrying Rickon would have little to no political advantage.In any case, the title is a bit unnerving as it seems Shireen and Rickon, when Rickon is a four years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victarion Chainbreaker Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 37 minutes ago, Jaak said: How do you think they´d work? The only way they'd work is if Rickon likes his women the same way Drogon likes his sheep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Artos Cold Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 10 minutes ago, Victarion Chainbreaker said: The only way they'd work is if Rickon likes his women the same way Drogon likes his sheep. To soon man, to soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaak Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 16 hours ago, Lord Ravenstark said: Jokes apart, I don't think that would work much. Few Westerosi would fight for a woman, they don't like women with political power. Specially not a child. And, sadly, definitively not Shireen. The hopes would be on Iron Bank money, and even that would be… slim at best. So marrying Rickon would have little to no political advantage. Advantage to whom? Say Davos finds Rickon. He does not have much of a ready army on Skagos - we have not heard of Skaggs marching for or against Stannis, despite being close at hand. So he brings Rickon to the Queens. Wyman promised to turn when he has Rickon. What other terms would he ask from Regent Selyse and Melisandre? Marriage is the one obvious way to announce the North that Wyman/Selyse alliance is serious and they should follow suit in turning against Ramsay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universal Sword Donor Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 15 hours ago, Artos Cold said: I wanted to dispute or question this thread. You won. /also I love cats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparklehorse Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Didn't many houses support Queen Rhaenys though in the Dance Of Dragons? I like Shireen x Rickon. It's cute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artos Cold Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 22 minutes ago, Sparklehorse said: Didn't many houses support Queen Rhaenys though in the Dance Of Dragons? I like Shireen x Rickon. It's cute. It was Rhaenyra, not Rhaenys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparklehorse Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 10 minutes ago, Artos Cold said: It was Rhaenyra, not Rhaenys. Ah okay. Simple mistake, forgot the one letter. thanks for the correction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victarion Chainbreaker Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 55 minutes ago, Sparklehorse said: Ah okay. Simple mistake, forgot the one letter. thanks for the correction Rhaenys is just as apt. 'The Queen Who Never Was' could have ascended to the Iron Throne, but the Great Council of 101 decided against her, even though she had the support of Houses Stark, Baratheon, Manderly, and Dustin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Redwyne Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Meh, shireen will be burned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaak Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 On 30.1.2016 at 5:44 PM, Lord Ravenstark said: Jokes apart, I don't think that would work much. Few Westerosi would fight for a woman, they don't like women with political power. Specially not a child. And, sadly, definitively not Shireen. The hopes would be on Iron Bank money, and even that would be… slim at best. So marrying Rickon would have little to no political advantage. In any case, the title is a bit unnerving as it seems Shireen and Rickon, when Rickon is a four years old. Tommen and Margaery are what, 8 and 15. 7 years difference. Rickon is closer to Shireen than Tommen to Margaery. And Ermesande/Tyrek? Look from the side of Rickon and his handlers, like Davos and Wyman. Who SHOULD Rickon marry? Wylla Manderly? Will Manderlies fight for Rickon because he´s married Wylla? No. They will fight for Rickon because he is a Stark, even if he marries someone else. Lyanna Mormont? Same reason - she´d fight for Stark anyway, even if he marries someone else. Queen Shireen would bring Rickon an army he does not have regardless - Queen´s Men and King´s Men surviving at the Wall, and the sellswords Iron Bank is hiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ravenstark Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Jokes apart, I don't think that would work much. Few Westerosi would fight for a woman, they don't like women with political power. Specially not a child. And, sadly, definitively not Shireen. The hopes would be on Iron Bank money, and even that would be… slim at best. So marrying Rickon would have little to no political advantage. In any case, the title is a bit unnerving as it seems Shireen and Rickon, when Rickon is a four years old. Tommen and Margaery are what, 8 and 15. 7 years difference. Rickon is closer to Shireen than Tommen to Margaery. And Ermesande/Tyrek? Look from the side of Rickon and his handlers, like Davos and Wyman. Who SHOULD Rickon marry? Wylla Manderly? Will Manderlies fight for Rickon because he´s married Wylla? No. They will fight for Rickon because he is a Stark, even if he marries someone else. Lyanna Mormont? Same reason - she´d fight for Stark anyway, even if he marries someone else. Queen Shireen would bring Rickon an army he does not have regardless - Queen´s Men and King´s Men surviving at the Wall, and the sellswords Iron Bank is hiring. Assuming the Manderlys don't support a Northern independence. If we take the Mormont kid (probably represents what she's been told, which means at least a part of Mormont household does) letter, the Mormonts do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevasTra82 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 On 1/30/2016 at 10:24 AM, Jaak said: How do you think they´d work? Remember, as of the end of Dance with Dragons, Stannis and Jon are both dead, Shireen is not and Rickon is nearby. And Ramsay, though victorious in the seven day battle, is not loved by those who fought for him, like Wyman... Would Walda like some Bolton pie? (Did she share the Frey ones?) So: how about Stannis´ and Stark royalists putting Shireen on Iron Throne and Rickon in her bed as her husband and, when grown, Lord Protector of 7 Kingdoms, like Daemon was? Stannis is very well alive at the end of ADWD. And though Jon got stabbed, it never was made clear if he actually *died* or not. People always seem to jump to that conclusion, but his fate is still unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaak Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 21 minutes ago, Lord Ravenstark said: Assuming the Manderlys don't support a Northern independence. If we take the Mormont kid (probably represents what she's been told, which means at least a part of Mormont household does) letter, the Mormonts do. They may prefer Northern independence to a Southron King and his Hand - but Rickon controlling the whole Westeros as Lord Protector of Realm in the name of his wife on Iron Throne may be even more appealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Not Appearing Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 When Stannis burns Shireen, Davos will turn against him and lead Rickon's northman army to defeat both the Stannis and Bolton-led factions. Unfortunately, that doesn't leave much room for this theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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