Puntificator Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 30 minutes ago, Bearbert said: I think the other one is on his blog. I read both of them Aside from the Tor.com one, there was one printed in Subterranean Press Magazine: Fall 2013, titled What Doctor Ivanovich Saw. Here's a link to it: http://subterraneanpress.com/magazine/fall_2013/what_doctor_ivanovich_saw_by_ian_tregillis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puntificator Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 There was also one published on his website: http://iantregillis.com/downloads/Tregillis_ChronicleofSorrows.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldhand Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I'm working through Kushiel's Dart and quite enjoying it so far. Better than you'd think based on how so many genre readers look down on it as erotica. Genre readers (it's really noticeable in SFF in particular) have a massive aversion to sex in books. The bogus excuse "they're never written well" is overused to the extreme to defend prudish stances on literature (this sounds much harsher than I'm meaning it to, so apologies in advance), and I've really only encountered a few cases of a sex scene being written rather poorly, and it's from Joe Abercrombie. You have authors like GGK, Jacqueline Carey, GRRM, Kate Elliott, and Sapkowski (even in translation his are pretty good) who are really popular and write perfectly good sex scenes (some fade to black, some not), and there's generally always someone who brings up how they don't like the sex while hiding behind the "it's not written well" shield. Do SFF readers have absurdly high standards for sex scenes, or what? Anyway, endrant. I'm going to be grabbing the audiobook for Morning Star as soon as it's out in 5 days, and I'm probably reading Altered Carbon either at a good on-hold point in Kushiel or after if I can manage it, though it's a library ebook so I have to plan around the 14 day checkout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astromech Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Goldhand said: I'm working through Kushiel's Dart and quite enjoying it so far. Better than you'd think based on how so many genre readers look down on it as erotica. Genre readers (it's really noticeable in SFF in particular) have a massive aversion to sex in books. The bogus excuse "they're never written well" is overused to the extreme to defend prudish stances on literature (this sounds much harsher than I'm meaning it to, so apologies in advance), and I've really only encountered a few cases of a sex scene being written rather poorly, and it's from Joe Abercrombie. You have authors like GGK, Jacqueline Carey, GRRM, Kate Elliott, and Sapkowski (even in translation his are pretty good) who are really popular and write perfectly good sex scenes (some fade to black, some not), and there's generally always someone who brings up how they don't like the sex while hiding behind the "it's not written well" shield. Do SFF readers have absurdly high standards for sex scenes, or what? Anyway, endrant. I'm going to be grabbing the audiobook for Morning Star as soon as it's out in 5 days, and I'm probably reading Altered Carbon either at a good on-hold point in Kushiel or after if I can manage it, though it's a library ebook so I have to plan around the 14 day checkout. Rothfuss is the best writer of sex scenes in the genre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 "Genre" readers? Also, uh, we do? Have you perused the "genre" shelf lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgambino Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I just finished The Beating of his Wings by Paul Hoffman. Ugggghhh. I wasn't crazy about The Left Hand of God, but I'm a completionist so I trudged on with the second and third books. If your thinking about reading the series, don't. It's a turgid pile of crap. You can actually see the pretentious stink cloud rolling off of each page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 4 hours ago, C Rutherford said: He wrote a couple of short stories that tied into the series. I could only find the one that Tor.com has: What Doctor Gottlieb Saw Thanks! Before I start clicking these links though, where does it fit in the chronology of the series? 2 hours ago, Goldhand said: I'm working through Kushiel's Dart and quite enjoying it so far. Better than you'd think based on how so many genre readers look down on it as erotica. Genre readers (it's really noticeable in SFF in particular) have a massive aversion to sex in books. The bogus excuse "they're never written well" is overused to the extreme to defend prudish stances on literature (this sounds much harsher than I'm meaning it to, so apologies in advance), and I've really only encountered a few cases of a sex scene being written rather poorly, and it's from Joe Abercrombie. You have authors like GGK, Jacqueline Carey, GRRM, Kate Elliott, and Sapkowski (even in translation his are pretty good) who are really popular and write perfectly good sex scenes (some fade to black, some not), and there's generally always someone who brings up how they don't like the sex while hiding behind the "it's not written well" shield. Do SFF readers have absurdly high standards for sex scenes, or what? Anyway, endrant. I'm going to be grabbing the audiobook for Morning Star as soon as it's out in 5 days, and I'm probably reading Altered Carbon either at a good on-hold point in Kushiel or after if I can manage it, though it's a library ebook so I have to plan around the 14 day checkout. I obviously like GRRM, or I wouldn't be here, but really, sex scenes not his strong point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I'm trying to think of real popular fantasy that doesn't have sex, other than Sanderson of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
End of Disc One Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Joe Abercrombie writes my favorite sex scenes, easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astromech Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 9 minutes ago, End of Disc One said: Joe Abercrombie writes my favorite sex scenes, easily Say one thing for Logen Ninefingers . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marquis de Leech Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 4 hours ago, Astromech said: Rothfuss is the best writer of sex scenes in the genre The guy who gave us Felurian (aka porno Tom Bombadil) and the sex ninjas? Contrary to popular belief, I don't think speculative fiction readers are particularly prudish. I think it's just (1) a matter of genre convention - the defining books in the genre don't tend to feature much sex (c.f. Tolkien), and (2) the major interest with speculative fiction often lies with exotic premises, not human relationships. Sex isn't exotic - it happens every day in the real world. Anyway, my issue with Carey isn't the sex - it's the fact that her fantasy France is treated as being infinitely superior to everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 You just can't appreciate the subtle unreliable narrator ... ah fuck it. Rothfuss is a perv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marquis de Leech Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Oh yes, and as for Martin's sex scenes... "fat pink mast," "Myrish swamp", and "her cunt became the world"? I recall Scott Lynch saying once that the issue authors have with sex scenes isn't that the authors themselves are prudish. It's that they're worried about revealing something intimate about themselves. Martin seems to have a nipple fetish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 18 hours ago, Britton said: Going through The Braided Path by Chris Wooding right now. It's decent enough but pales in comparison the his Ketty Jay series and I find myself struggling through it a bit. I have been thinking about dropping it it and moving on to something else. I thought the series was reasonable but I agree his Ketty Jay books were much better. I think Wooding's standalone The Fade is his best out of the non-Ketty Jay books. Ha, the top rated book on my shelf is Mark Lawrence unreleased book 3 in the series I forget the name of. Followed by a Shakespeare collection, Gene Wolfe Interviews collection, and finally, at number 4, A FUCKING FORGOTTEN REALMS NOVEL. I can hear peterbound screaming as I type this. The top rated book for me is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, which seems odd given that it's far from being the most loved book even in that series. Looking at the other end I'm amused that the worst-rated story (by a long way) is last year's Hugo-winning novelette The Day The World Turned Upside Down, whose title presciently predicted how I'd have to change the way I was looking at the average ratings to find it. I'm not inclined to really argue with its position. The rest of the bottom 10 has another Hugo nominee by the same author, three Forgotten Realms novels, lesser works by David Eddings, Vernor Vinge and Tim Powers and Sophia MacDougall's Romanitas which was a book I liked quite a bit despite some flaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 That's odd, I have all the Potter books scanned in and they don't show up that high, but I'll be fucked if I understand how goodreads works at this point. Edit: pfft im not inlcuding all my books when I sort, Potter 7 is up there, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astromech Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I finished the excellent Tigana. I've loved everything I've read from GGK so far. Looking forward to his Children of Earth and Sky this Spring. Next up is Jaroslav Hasek's anti-war, The Good Soldier Svejk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Ugh, Tigana makes me throw up into my mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astromech Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Curious. What about Tigana did you not like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgambino Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 14 minutes ago, Darth Richard II said: Ugh, Tigana makes me throw up into my mouth. SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I will let the great and unlamented datepalm handle this one: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/174413860 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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