Corvinus85 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 There were maybe 20 people in my theater Saturday afternoon. But I don't live in a big city. I don't think it will be a huge commercial success. But that's fine with me, I don't think I want to see Blade Runner 20,049. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martini Sigil Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 I friggin' loved this movie... and I didn;t think I would. I actually liked it a lot more than the original... It was well written,and had they shortened it to the Hollywood 120 minute mark, it would have lost a lot..... But my favorite thing about the flick was... Spoiler The swerve was that there was no swerve... they set you up to think that "Joe" was the replicant offspring they were looking for (and what most hack writers would have done)... and instead they went in another direction.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theda Baratheon Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Okay well. In light of the dissapointing box office money...I feel it is my duty to explain a little bit more in detail with no spoilers. The plot is relatively simple; you have a Blade Runner who retires leftover replicants (Nexus 8 models) with open life spans. He's called in to a particular case to find a VERY special replicant. This film, much like the original, deals with the theme of what makes us human? What is the difference between a replicant and a human? It also tackles modern day fears of Internet pornification, the future of apps and lonliness. It isn't just a film vaguely set in the same universe as Blade Runner with a few easter eggs like I expected - it's a direct continuation of the original story. It asks more questions than it answers - much like the original and there are some absolutely fantastic cracking performances and characters. It's going to be a cult favourite. I know it is. There's plenty of characters for future best of lists. It looks AMAZING. The soundtrack is solid. I loved it. I'm going to hopefully watch it again tomorrow. I needed a few days to process. PLEASE go and watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Quote My favorite is Scott's first directors cut, which is mostly , maybe only, the theatrical cut without the voice over. Scott didn't supervise the first director's cut in 1992. That was the studio, who just lopped off the happy ending and the voiceover at the start. There's a lot of talk about there being seven versions of the film, but most of those are pointless variants. There are really only three significant versions: the original theatrical cut, the director's cut and the 2007 Final Cut, which is the only version supervised by Scott. The Final Cut has a much longer version of the unicorn dream, a few small fixes and has been remastered-from-scratch in full HD (and recently upgraded to 4K). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 I do wonder if its so far failure has anything to do with audiences feeling they've had too much of this sort of premise. I mean, I'd have thought that coming shortly after Westworld and Ghost in the Shell (as averagely recieved as the remake was) would have softened the ground, it's hardly saturation, but maybe it's done the opposite for what is a theme that necessiates some fairly highbrow storytelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 6 hours ago, Mark Antony said: Not thaaat surprising. Original Blade Runner was a flop as well right? Loads of people probably have never even watched the original. Plus it’s pretty damn long. It maybe wasn't an obvious choice for being a blockbuster. It'll be seen as disappointing because of the budget and studio expectations, whereas something like Arrival could be seen a success with a smaller opening weekend because it was less expensive. Apparently BR 2049 performed better at the international box office than in the US, although I'd struggle to explain why that might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Фейсал Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 12 hours ago, polishgenius said: I do wonder if its so far failure has anything to do with audiences feeling they've had too much of this sort of premise. I mean, I'd have thought that coming shortly after Westworld and Ghost in the Shell (as averagely recieved as the remake was) would have softened the ground, it's hardly saturation, but maybe it's done the opposite for what is a theme that necessiates some fairly highbrow storytelling. This might be true. ''What does it mean to be human?'' is sci fi cliche at this point but Blade Runner handles the subject with such finesse and genuine depth that it really does get you thinking; unlike more popcorn flick approach akin to the Ghost in the Shell adaptation. The movie might still make it's money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.H. Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 15 hours ago, Theda Baratheon said: PLEASE go and watch it. Well, I fully plan on going see it this coming Sunday, this weekend was just too busy with other stuff. Plus, my wife had never seen the first, so we had to watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I want to see it but I don't know when I will be able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiDisaster Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 So I want to go and see this but I've never seen the original and I want to watch that first. There are apparently about seventy two different versions of the first one though apparently. For you big fangirls & boys, which one is the best to watch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazydog7 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 It is still defiantly worth a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, KiDisaster said: So I want to go and see this but I've never seen the original and I want to watch that first. There are apparently about seventy two different versions of the first one though apparently. For you big fangirls & boys, which one is the best to watch? Final Cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Yeah, the Final Cut. There's no real merit in the theatrical cut over the Final, and absolutely no point in watching the Director's Cut over the Final Cut (the Final Cut contains the entirety of the Director's Cut, I believe, plus some minor additions and changes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Werthead said: Yeah, the Final Cut. There's no real merit in the theatrical cut over the Final, and absolutely no point in watching the Director's Cut over the Final Cut (the Final Cut contains the entirety of the Director's Cut, I believe, plus some minor additions and changes). Well no. If you think (though I guess someone who never watched any version wouldn't have an opinion) that Ridley Scott's interpretation that Spoiler Deckard is a replicant is totally incorrect, than the Director's Cut (confusing name) is the one to watch. Interestingly, the writers of 2049 say that their movie does not provide closure one way or the other on that topic, and they think that's for the best. http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-blade-runner-screenwriters-20171009-htmlstory.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, Fez said: Well no. If you think (though I guess someone who never watched any version wouldn't have an opinion) that Ridley Scott's interpretation that Reveal hidden contents Deckard is a replicant is totally incorrect, than the Director's Cut (confusing name) is the one to watch. Interestingly, the writers of 2049 say that their movie does not provide closure one way or the other on that topic, and they think that's for the best. http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-blade-runner-screenwriters-20171009-htmlstory.html Huh? The theatrical cut is the only one that really lowballs the idea of Deckard as a replicant. The Director's Cut steps it up with the unicorn dream, but it's a brief flash whilst the Final Cut has a longer version of the dream. But the Director's and Final Cuts really focus on that idea, the theatrical is the only on that doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 4 hours ago, KiDisaster said: So I want to go and see this but I've never seen the original and I want to watch that first. There are apparently about seventy two different versions of the first one though apparently. For you big fangirls & boys, which one is the best to watch? I think in terms of understanding the sequel any of the cuts would work fine - the differences in the original film don't really matter too much to the sequel. As others have said the Final Cut is the best choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 16 minutes ago, Werthead said: Huh? The theatrical cut is the only one that really lowballs the idea of Deckard as a replicant. The Director's Cut steps it up with the unicorn dream, but it's a brief flash whilst the Final Cut has a longer version of the dream. But the Director's and Final Cuts really focus on that idea, the theatrical is the only on that doesn't. I guess I'm getting versions confused. But I definitely saw one on TV back in the '90s (it was my first) that didn't have the voice-over and also didn't have the unicorn dream or the happy ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boojam Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 On 10/8/2017 at 3:20 PM, polishgenius said: I do wonder if its so far failure has anything to do with audiences feeling they've had too much of this sort of premise. I mean, I'd have thought that coming shortly after Westworld and Ghost in the Shell (as averagely recieved as the remake was) would have softened the ground, it's hardly saturation, but maybe it's done the opposite for what is a theme that necessiates some fairly highbrow storytelling. Ghost in the Shell was highbrow story telling?! Gad, no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, boojam said: Ghost in the Shell was highbrow story telling?! Gad, no! Well I assume the remake didn't manage it but it was supposed to be. The premise is. The original is, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boojam Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I have a generalized observation after seeing Blade Runner 2049 today. I was worried that there would be an outbreak of comic book heavy artillery. No so! As an avid reader of SF prose for the last 50 years this film warms the cockles of my heart! I praise Warner for going through with this dense sophisticated story. This is a better narrative and more difficult and deeper narrative drama than Blade Runner 1. Loved it. Will have more to say later. (One observation, the musical score for Blade Runner 1 is light years ahead of what we got here, of a mind that they just should have flat paid Vangelis for re-use of the original. I wonder if Vangelis was approached about scoring this movie ? He is still around.) Interesting times several serious SF films in the last few years, Ex Machina , Predestination, and Arrival , one could add The Martian , and even the very uneven Interstellar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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