the tower of albion Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 My question is Why would they accept Jon Snow as their king? He is not of Tully Blood, and it appears that only the northern lords have knowledge of the fact that Bran and Rickon are still alive. Theirs I think is vengeance for vengeance's sake (Lanisters & Freys to begin with). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Why does it matter that he hasn't got Tully's blood? Why the Northeners should care about the Trouts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the tower of albion Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share Posted February 21, 2016 Well the river lords never owed their allegiance to the king of the north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forlong the Fat Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 1 minute ago, the tower of albion said: My question is Why would they accept Jon Snow as their king? He is not of Tully Blood, and it appears that only the northern lords have knowledge of the fact that Bran and Rickon are still alive. Theirs I think is vengeance for vengeance's sake (Lanisters & Freys to begin with). Three reasons I can think of: (1) he is the rightful heir based on their King's will (assuming Robb really executed one), (2) he is better than the Boltons, or any other alternative with a reasonable chance at power, and (3) he is Ned's son, a person commanding great respect a love (wonder how they feel if they make him king in the north then find that's not true). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 1 minute ago, the tower of albion said: Well the river lords never owed their allegiance to the king of the north. Exactly so why the North should care about Tully's blood in Jon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 The northerners will support him, simply put, he is the most suitable candidate/best option. And it's very likely that the Tullys and their banner men are in on it, or at least some of them are in on some of it. For instance, when Mormont and Glover are sent to seek out Reed just before the RW, they go with Mallister to Seaguard and take ship from there iirc. And more, why on earth would any of the Riverlands lords support anyone but the North? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancakes1800 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 The Riverlords took Robb as their King which means they need to follow his rule of succession. If Jon is Robb's rightful heir, then they should follow him. Plus not every GNC theory has Jon as King in the North, some have Rickon, it just depends on what one you believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 If Rickon is king, Jon will likely be his regent for some time imo. But whatever happens, there's no cooler name (intended) than Jon Snow, the King of Winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OIL, BLOOD, Water Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 42 minutes ago, the tower of albion said: Well the river lords never owed their allegiance to the king of the north. I hope The North Remembers conspiracy is real and they FAIL. I hope House Dustin/Ryswell exterminate the Starks and Boltons from the North. The North needs to be under new leadership. Lady Barbrey Dustin is that leadership. How Lady Dustin Can Win the North: 1. She should hire Wyman Manderly to kill Fat-Walda Frey/bake her into a pie, 2. Marry Roose Bolton 3. Get pregnant with his child 4. Poison Roose Bolton in his sleep. 5. Poison Fake Arya. 7. Poison Ramsay Bolton 7. Declare herself Wardeness of the North 8. Rule the North by herself with Wyman Manderly as her financier. 9. Wait for Littlefinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Snow Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 59 minutes ago, Jon's Queen Consort said: Why does it matter that he hasn't got Tully's blood? Why the Northeners should care about the Trouts? Chortle chortle chortle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaywolf123 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 The north and the riverlands are non logical as being the same kingdom. The riverlands are sepertated from the north by sea and swamp. The riverlands share land border with the reach, westerlands, vale and crownlands and have far more in common with these regions culturaly and trade. The riverlords accepted robb becouse they needed help against the lannisters. The riverlords are going to back aegon soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnowInWinterfell Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 I'm still lost on the whole "Tully blood" prerequisite. The Riverland have been shat on since the beginning of time. Anyone that can secure that area will gain support from the riverlords. Until they start fighting each other again at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mladen Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 There are few Starks roaming around with Tully blood instead. They (or better she ) can be the bridge between them. Lastly, Riverlords didn't make Robb Kind of Trident because he was Tully, but because he came to their aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden Wolf Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Plus I think most people view the GNC as a purely Northern endeavor so there is no reason to include the riverlands into the plot especially as they were an albatross around Robb's neck. Let the Riverlands worry about themselves for now, the North needs a Stark in Winterfell posthaste! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 I think the OP is mixing up the Riverlands and the North. Certainly I can see the River lords not accepting Jon Stark as their king, but as far as the North is concerned Jon is Ned Stark's son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolorous22 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Ask the wildlings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion92 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Riverlands and Brotherhood without Banners will bend the knee to Dany, especially with Red God religion spreading there among small folk like wildfire. If she manages to burn down the Twins and Freys inside like Aegon the Conqueror burned Harrenhal as a punishment for Red Wedding and PR move to get riverlanders on her side against fAegon, I can see BwB and river lords following her. I would argue it is most likely. I see RIverlands being this buffer zone between "ice" and "fire", and where it all will resolve and conclude itself. Which tells me eventually river lords will bend the knee to Jon, he is both Targaryen and Stark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 51 minutes ago, The Golden Wolf said: Plus I think most people view the GNC as a purely Northern endeavor so there is no reason to include the riverlands into the plot especially as they were an albatross around Robb's neck. Let the Riverlands worry about themselves for now, the North needs a Stark in Winterfell posthaste! "The lone wolf dies, but the pack survives" is a much broader theme, imo, and not just a Stark thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dariopatke Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I think the OP is mixing up the Riverlands and the North. Certainly I can see the River lords not accepting Jon Stark as their king, but as far as the North is concerned Jon is Ned Stark's son. What if he marries some RL girl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Short of it being Catelyn or Lysa Tully I can't see that making enough of a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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