Seaworth'sShipmate Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 How much longer would you say Theon has left to live? Even if he is not killed by anyone.. I don't think he has a lot of time left :(. His "reformation" at the hands of Ramsay likely took years off his life. Isn't it at all possible (likely I think) that Theon has some infection from the various teeth/limbs removed, or some form of shock/trauma from all he has expereinced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOsevens Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Theon's time is def winding down. IF he isnt killed for his crimes against the North then he may sacrifice himself to save or aid a Stark but I dont see Theon surviving the series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I know that most people will hate this idea but I believe that Theon will die during TWOW and the Old Gods will use his life to pay for Jon's life. Quote "Then do the deed yourself, Your Grace." The chill in Asha's voice made Theon shiver in his chains. "Take him out across the lake to the islet where the weirwood grows, and strike his head off with that sorcerous sword you bear. That is how Eddard Stark would have done it. Theon slew Lord Eddard's sons. Give him to Lord Eddard's gods. The old gods of the north. Give him to the tree." And suddenly there came a wild thumping, as the maester's ravens hopped and flapped inside their cages, their black feathers flying as they beat against the bars with loud and raucous caws. "The tree," one squawked, "the tree, the tree," whilst the second screamed only, "Theon, Theon, Theon." Theon Greyjoy smiled. They know my name, he thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slant Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 What is dead may never die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaworth'sShipmate Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 Im not asking how he will die.. just how long he has left. George is not sentimental. Theon currently is about as healthy as a holocaust survivor, minus a few limbs and teeth. I don't know how he can be nursed back to health without dying..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walda Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Arrgh! He is going to be a Pirate King, with a peg leg and a mean left hook, and an eyepatch. Good Lord Bolton was just toughing him up a bit, and who needs teeth when you've got scurvy? He'll live long enough to take the Seastone Chair and turn Euron into a pretty blue lampshade. A few more months, or half a season. Plenty long enough. That being said, there are still some holocaust survivors alive today, in their late 80's and 90's, apparently unkillable. People like Józef Kowalski, who was in a concentration camp, but lived to nearly 114. He died just two years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sullen Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 What is dead may never die, but rises harder, and STRONGER. I think he's going to survive the series, only to kill himself by walking into the sea in the "tying everything up" epilogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I could def see him surviving. Why else have the mentions of the kingsmoot being able to be overturned because Theon wasn't there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Suburbs Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 As long as he is with Stannis he is safe enough, but Asha might be in trouble. If there needs to be a sacrifice with king's blood, it will more likely be her than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaybeINeverSawACamel Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Theon and The late Lord Frey will survive us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOsevens Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Just now, MaybeINeverSawACamel said: Theon and The late Lord Frey will survive us all. I wouldn't bet on that on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaybeINeverSawACamel Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, RobOsevens said: I wouldn't bet on that on Then don't. By the end of COK Theon was thought for dead. Now that his POV has met up with another POV, GRRM wants us to think that this frail man has little to no time left. I agree with those posting the drowned god's words. What is dead may never die. Theon is a survivor. As for old Walder, I love the idea of his six million heirs being massacred and he lives on, the last of his house, unable to remarry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ravenstone Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Theon had a dream about being at a feast with the dead. Seems like he's on track to die. And his POV is no longer necessary as we have Asha now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knute Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Won't Stannis kill him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Lark Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Since this is a fantasy series, I don't know how much these factors would come into play, but: He was forced into periods of incredible starvation by Ramsay (to the point where he's skin and bone, plus eating live rats with broken teeth) so that could've caused decreased ventricular mass and valve dysfunction. The abuse he endured definitely compromises his mental health and could even lead to a substance abuse problem. We don't actually know the full extent of his physical abuse but it's frankly a miracle that he hasn't lost a whole hand or foot to infection yet. He might have sustained internal injuries at some point too. Again, this is fantasy and I think GRRM has something bigger in mind for Theon than a heart arrhythmia, but based on everything he's gone through and the fact that Westerosi medicine still involves treating infected wounds with leeches and maggots (which can actually introduce new bacterial infections). On the other hand, human genetics doesn't work quite the same way in Westeros as it does here (see Targ superhumanism by virtue of incest). Why should any other aspect of biology? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalerionTheCat Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Theon's tortures and imprisonment have certainly taken some years from his life. But I believe he will survive the story. The maesters could not do much for him. Maybe some other could... or not. But he still should have many years. What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ravenstone Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 6 minutes ago, Little Lark said: Since this is a fantasy series, I don't know how much these factors would come into play, but: He was forced into periods of incredible starvation by Ramsay (to the point where he's skin and bone, plus eating live rats with broken teeth) so that could've caused decreased ventricular mass and valve dysfunction. The abuse he endured definitely compromises his mental health and could even lead to a substance abuse problem. We don't actually know the full extent of his physical abuse but it's frankly a miracle that he hasn't lost a whole hand or foot to infection yet. He might have sustained internal injuries at some point too. Again, this is fantasy and I think GRRM has something bigger in mind for Theon than a heart arrhythmia, but based on everything he's gone through and the fact that Westerosi medicine still involves treating infected wounds with leeches and maggots (which can actually introduce new bacterial infections). On the other hand, human genetics doesn't work quite the same way in Westeros as it does here (see Targ superhumanism by virtue of incest). Why should any other aspect of biology? To be fair Targs have a magical bloodline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Lark Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 7 minutes ago, Lord_Ravenstone said: To be fair Targs have a magical bloodline True that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booger_eater Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Arrgh! He is going to be a Pirate King, with a peg leg and a mean left hook, and an eyepatch. Good Lord Bolton was just toughing him up a bit, and who needs teeth when you've got scurvy? He'll live long enough to take the Seastone Chair and turn Euron into a pretty blue lampshade. A few more months, or half a season. Plenty long enough. That being said, there are still some holocaust survivors alive today, in their late 80's and 90's, apparently unkillable. People like Józef Kowalski, who was in a concentration camp, but lived to nearly 114. He died just two years ago. I agree. Why tell the story about the kangaroo where the eldest son wasn't there and thus negated the outcome if George isn't using it to set up Theon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalerionTheCat Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 4 hours ago, Jon's Queen Consort said: I know that most people will hate this idea but I believe that Theon will die during TWOW and the Old Gods will use his life to pay for Jon's life. I don't think so. Old Nan said: The monsters cannot pass so long as the Wall stands and the men of the Night’s Watch stay true. By killing Jon, the remaining brothers failed to their oath. The magic protecting the Wall will leave it. It will have to go somewhere... In Jon. "I am the sword in the darkness," Samwell Tarly said. "I am the watcher on the walls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers. I am the shield that guards the realms of men." "Then pass," the door said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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