The Arthur Smith Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 King: Tywin Lannister Queen: Olenna Tyrell Hand of the King: Jon Arryn or Tyrion Lannister Kingsguard Commander: Barristain Selmy Grand Maester: Marwyn Master of Whispers: Varys Master of Coin: Littlefinger Master of Laws: Stannis Baratheon Master of Ships: Davos Seaworth or Euron Greyjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPathera Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 This will assume that the Blackfyre theory is real as well as other crackpot stuff from the CK2 mod: Behold the Small Council of King Aegon Blackfyre and Queen Mya Baratheon (formerly Stone)! Hand: Tyrion Lannister Master of Laws: Eddard Stark or Doran Martell Master of Ships: Davos Seaworth Master of Coin: Willas Tyrell Master of Whispers: Varys Grand Maester: Qyburn Lord-Commander of the Kingsguard: Ser Brynden "Blackfish" Tully Lord-Commander of the Gold-Cloaks: Ser Bronn of Stokeworth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raisin' Bran Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 1 hour ago, LordPathera said: This will assume that the Blackfyre theory is real as well as other crackpot stuff from the CK2 mod: Behold the Small Council of King Aegon Blackfyre and Queen Mya Baratheon (formerly Stone)! Hand: Tyrion Lannister Master of Laws: Eddard Stark Master of Ships: Davos Seaworth Master of Coin: Willas Tyrell Master of Whispers: Varys Grand Maester: Qyburn Lord-Commander: Brynden "Blackfish" Tully Does the crackpot state that Lord Eddard is still alive? Because that is looney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPathera Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, Raisin' Bran said: Does the crackpot state that Lord Eddard is still alive? Because that is looney. Yep. If we're going with the idea that Ned's dead, then Doran Martell (or one of his nieces) can act as Master of Laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldve Taken The Black Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 On 15/03/2016 at 9:01 PM, LordToo-Fat-to-Sit-a-Horse said: King Joffrey Queen Consort: Lynesse hightower Queen Regent: Cersei Hand: Roose Bolton Master of Laws: Walder frey Master of Coin: Littlefinger Master of ships: Euron Greyjoy Master of whispers: Melisandre Grand Maester: Qyburn KG Commander: Gregor Clegane To be fair, if they all worked together as a team, then that would be a pretty formidable council. The only two lacking the relevant talents there are Cersei and Joffery (Lynesse is an unknown though). I wouldn't fuck with that opening squad. My two-penneth: King - Tommen Lannister – he does what he’s told like a good king should. Hand – Tyrion Lannister – just about the right mix of pragmatism and ethics. Master of Coin – Littlefinger – can’t say he isn’t good at maths. Master of Laws – Roose Bolton – he keeps a peaceful land. Master of Ships – Aurane Waters – knows how to sail a boat, and the rest of these could keep him in line. Master of Wisperers – Varys – he’s clearly the most qualified. LC of the KG – Bronn of the Blackwater – because hell yeah. Grand Maester - Pycelle - seems to work well when properly supervised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Doe Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Littlefinger bankrupted the realm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHodorThatWasPromised Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 21 hours ago, Shouldve Taken The Black said: To be fair, if they all worked together as a team, then that would be a pretty formidable council. The only two lacking the relevant talents there are Cersei and Joffery (Lynesse is an unknown though). I wouldn't fuck with that opening squad. My two-penneth: King - Tommen Lannister – he does what he’s told like a good king should. Hand – Tyrion Lannister – just about the right mix of pragmatism and ethics. Master of Coin – Littlefinger – can’t say he isn’t good at maths. Master of Laws – Roose Bolton – he keeps a peaceful land. Master of Ships – Aurane Waters – knows how to sail a boat, and the rest of these could keep him in line. Master of Wisperers – Varys – he’s clearly the most qualified. LC of the KG – Bronn of the Blackwater – because hell yeah. Grand Maester - Pycelle - seems to work well when properly supervised. I assume you are trying to make the most unreliable small council ? Littlefinger have so far been wholly or partly responsible for killing a king and two hands. You really wnat a man who can decide to kill you anytime it suits his purpose ? Roose Bolton may keep a peaceful land, but he also betrayed his king. See Littlefinger. Aurane Waters derserted his king at the first sign of trouble. Varys is working to place another person on the throne. A LC of the KG should be willing to risk his life for the king. Bronn is only loyal as long as it suits his purposes. Grand Maester Pycelle is dead. Anyway he was never very reliable either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldve Taken The Black Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, TheHodorThatWasPromised said: I assume you are trying to make the most unreliable small council ? I was basing my choices on the assumption they would work as a team, rather than against each other. We're playing fantasy football here. 3 minutes ago, TheHodorThatWasPromised said: Grand Maester Pycelle is dead. Slipped my mind. I'll replace him with Qyburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OIL, BLOOD, Water Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 On 3/15/2016 at 7:44 PM, Neptunium said: Stannis and Val would be a horrible couple, but individually they have the potential to be great monarchs. In your defense, it seems most of the Kings & Queens of Westeros were horrible couples, or at the very least held no intimate feelings for each other (the expected result of arranged marriages) but may have been good individual or co-rulers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Cregan Brook Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 King: Aegon VI Queen: Daenerys Hand: Tyrion Lannister Coin: Willas Tyrell Law: Stannis Baratheon Whispers:Varys Ships: Victarion Greyjoy Grandmaester: Marwyn until sam gets his chain. LC: Barristan Selmy CW: Davos Seaworth Master of War: Brynden Tully Night's Watch commander: Jon Snow Lord paramount of the Trident: Edmure Tully or Jason Mallister Warden North: Greatjon Umber until Rickon Stark is of age. Warden West: Kevan Lannister Warden East: Bronze Yohn Royce Warden South: Garlan Tyrell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoth the raven, Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Hand to the Queen: Tyrion Lannister Assistant Hand to the Queen: Skahaz mo Kandaq General of the Armies: Jorah Mormont Queensguard Commander: Barristan Selmy Foreign Relations: Missandei Justice: Greyworm Master of Coin: Illyrio Master of Spies: Varys Court Weirdo: Bloodraven and his tree stump Master of Ships: Victarion Greyjoy Liaison to the Dothraki: her three bloodriders Liaison to the Ghiscari: Reznak mo Reznak Liaison to the Free Cities: ? Liaison to Asshai: Quaithe Royal Food Taster: Belwas Royal Cook: Mellisandre after a glowing letter of reference from Stannis. Queen of Westeros and Essos: Daenerys I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilish Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Queen: Danny Targeryan King: Willas Tyrell Hand: Jon Snow Grand Maester: Marywn Master of whispers: Varys Master of Coin: Tyrion Lannister Master of Laws: Mace Tyrell Master of ships: Victarion Greyjoy Commander of the KG: Barristan Selmy KG1: Grey Worm KG2: Brienne of Tarth KG3: Loras Tyrell KG4: Sandor Clegane KG5: Sir Gerold Dayne KG6: Arya Stark Councillor: Brandon Stark Councillor: Melisandre Warden of the North: Brandon Stark with the new Lord of the Dreadfort Jon Targeryan acting as protector of the North during the war LP of the Riverlands: Edmure Tully with the new Lord of Harrenhal Brynden Tully acting as protector of the Riverlands during the war Warden of the East: Robin Arryn with Lord Royce acting as protector of the Vale during the war and until the boy comes of age Warden of the West: Tommen Lannister with new Lord of Castamere Kevan Lannister acting as protector of the Westerlands during the war. Stormlands: New Lord of the Stormlands Aegon Targeryan with Lord of Griffin Roost Connington acting as protector of the Stormlands during the war Reach: Willas Tyrell with Lord Tarly leading the troops during the war. Dorne: Doran Martell Course of action: - Ask Victarion to come as close to the Vale as possible. Robin will bend the knee by simply flying the dragons to the Eyrie - Send letters to Mace Tyrell. The true queen of Westeros is back and she’s got a 50k army. If Mace is willing to bend the knee and join her side then she will reward him by marrying Willas Tyrell. Tommen (and Margaery) will also be forgiven as long as he accepts that he’s the child of incest and bends the knee. The queen will be gracious to him, allowing him to be appointed Lord of CR and Warden of the West. - Send a letter to Aegon. His 10k army isn’t big enough to capture Westeros. However if he bends the knee then the Stormlands will be his. I am pretty sure that the GC will oblige. After all they only want a Targ to be queen/king - Send a letter to Doran Martell. Its time for Dorne to join the fray. - Launch a surprise attack on the Riverlands. LF is executed and Sansa is released. Hopefully Mace will see sense in the generous deal offered and he’ll join my ranks to invade KL. The terms for the Lannisters are simple and extremely generous. If the Lannisters bend the knee and they deliver the red wedding hostages to me than Jamie will be allowed to join the NW and Cersei will be sent to the silent sisters. Tommen & Myrcella will be spared, their surname will change to Lannister and Tommen will be appointed Lord of CR and warden of the West. If they don’t. That immense army + the dragons will overwhelm KL defenses in matter of hours. Every trace of Lannister will be eradicated. I am pretty sure that Humfrey Waters will see sense in bending the knee especially since he relies on Tyrell forces to hold the fort - Edmure and all other Lords will see their lands and titles restored after bending the knee. At that point allow Sansa to take an army of 20k men up North (lead by Brynden Tully and the Greatjon). The return of the Starks + Northern hostages will be enough for most houses to switch side. That will bring the Bolton’s rule to a swift end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marquis de Leech Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 King: Stannis Baratheon Hand: Tyrion Lannister Grand Maester: Qyburn Master of Coin: Wyman Manderley Master of Laws: Roose Bolton Master of Ships: Davos Seaworth Master of Whispers: Olenna Tyrell Commander of the KG: Barristan Selmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaWitch Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 22 minutes ago, devilish said: Queen: Danny Targeryan King: Willas Tyrell Hand: Jon Snow Grand Maester: Marywn Master of whispers: Varys Master of Coin: Tyrion Lannister Master of Laws: Mace Tyrell Master of ships: Victarion Greyjoy Commander of the KG: Barristan Selmy KG1: Grey Worm KG2: Brienne of Tarth KG3: Loras Tyrell KG4: Sandor Clegane KG5: Sir Gerold Dayne KG6: Arya Stark Councillor: Brandon Stark Councillor: Melisandre Warden of the North: Brandon Stark with the new Lord of the Dreadfort Jon Targeryan acting as protector of the North during the war LP of the Riverlands: Edmure Tully with the new Lord of Harrenhal Brynden Tully acting as protector of the Riverlands during the war Warden of the East: Robin Arryn with Lord Royce acting as protector of the Vale during the war and until the boy comes of age Warden of the West: Tommen Lannister with new Lord of Castamere Kevan Lannister acting as protector of the Westerlands during the war. Stormlands: New Lord of the Stormlands Aegon Targeryan with Lord of Griffin Roost Connington acting as protector of the Stormlands during the war Reach: Willas Tyrell with Lord Tarly leading the troops during the war. Dorne: Doran Martell Course of action: - Ask Victarion to come as close to the Vale as possible. Robin will bend the knee by simply flying the dragons to the Eyrie - Send letters to Mace Tyrell. The true queen of Westeros is back and she’s got a 50k army. If Mace is willing to bend the knee and join her side then she will reward him by marrying Willas Tyrell. Tommen (and Margaery) will also be forgiven as long as he accepts that he’s the child of incest and bends the knee. The queen will be gracious to him, allowing him to be appointed Lord of CR and Warden of the West. - Send a letter to Aegon. His 10k army isn’t big enough to capture Westeros. However if he bends the knee then the Stormlands will be his. I am pretty sure that the GC will oblige. After all they only want a Targ to be queen/king - Send a letter to Doran Martell. Its time for Dorne to join the fray. - Launch a surprise attack on the Riverlands. LF is executed and Sansa is released. Hopefully Mace will see sense in the generous deal offered and he’ll join my ranks to invade KL. The terms for the Lannisters are simple and extremely generous. If the Lannisters bend the knee and they deliver the red wedding hostages to me than Jamie will be allowed to join the NW and Cersei will be sent to the silent sisters. Tommen & Myrcella will be spared, their surname will change to Lannister and Tommen will be appointed Lord of CR and warden of the West. If they don’t. That immense army + the dragons will overwhelm KL defenses in matter of hours. Every trace of Lannister will be eradicated. I am pretty sure that Humfrey Waters will see sense in bending the knee especially since he relies on Tyrell forces to hold the fort - Edmure and all other Lords will see their lands and titles restored after bending the knee. At that point allow Sansa to take an army of 20k men up North (lead by Brynden Tully and the Greatjon). The return of the Starks + Northern hostages will be enough for most houses to switch side. That will bring the Bolton’s rule to a swift end. This is excellent. (Apart from killing LF, who I really want to slither free, unlikely as it may be.) People acting with logic and foresight, and very little in the way of violent and unnecessary slaughter. Ergo, probably about as far from GRRM's M.O as can be. Cersei as a Silent Sister is rather mind--boggling, though. I think she'd go down fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilish Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 26 minutes ago, SeaWitch said: This is excellent. (Apart from killing LF, who I really want to slither free, unlikely as it may be.) People acting with logic and foresight, and very little in the way of violent and unnecessary slaughter. Ergo, probably about as far from GRRM's M.O as can be. Cersei as a Silent Sister is rather mind--boggling, though. I think she'd go down fighting. Danny's best chance of putting a crown at her head will be to bring a compassionate justice that will be accepted by both smallfolk and Lords. LF rise to prominence had been too quick and on top of corpses (ex Ned and Jon Arryn) whose relatives are needed to bring peace in Westeros. He doesn't have alot of friends but he surely has alot of enemies. Thus its worth it to sacrifice him same as Walder Frey and Roose Bolton. Cersei might go down with a fight but I am pretty sure Jamie will stop her this time round. The Lannisters do not have the men to resist a siege against that horde. By bending the knee both their lives and that off their family will be spared. CR will remain in Lannister hands and the queen's sister in law will make sure that the Lannisters will not incur further retributions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaWitch Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 1 minute ago, devilish said: Danny's best chance of putting a crown at her head will be to bring a compassionate justice that will be accepted by both smallfolk and Lords. LF rise to prominence had been too quick and on top of corpses (ex Ned and Jon Arryn) whose relatives are needed to bring peace in Westeros. He doesn't have alot of friends but he surely has alot of enemies. Thus its worth sacrificing (same as Walder Frey) Cersei might go down with a fight but I am pretty sure Jamie will stop her this time round. The Lannisters do not have the men to resist a siege against that horde. By bending the knee their lives and that off their family will be spared with CR remaining in Lannister hands. I agree. I just have a soft spot for the twisty little bastard. if Jaime stops Cersei, I think their story has to end in mutual destruction. The Greek Tragedy thing they have going on would seem to tend that way. It would feel fitting to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilish Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, SeaWitch said: I agree. I just have a soft spot for the twisty little bastard. if Jaime stops Cersei, I think their story has to end in mutual destruction. The Greek Tragedy thing they have going on would seem to tend that way. It would feel fitting to me. Is it the case though? Jamie never wanted to be a Lord. He wanted to provide service to those around him like the typical cut and paste knight (think of Duncan the Tall). By taking matters in his hands he will save KL once again + the life of his entire family and offspring from sure death. The NW will bring him redemption and a chance of starting fresh doing what he always wanted to do ie be a knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaWitch Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, devilish said: Is it the case though? Jamie never wanted to be a Lord. He wanted to provide service to those around him like the typical cut and paste knight (think of Duncan the Tall). By taking matters in his hands he will save KL once again + the life of his entire family and offspring from sure death. The NW will bring him redemption and a chance of starting fresh doing what he always wanted to do ie be a knight. You think George will let him live long enough to earn redemption? It feels more likely that he'll go to his death as a hissing and a byword, Kingslayer and Kinslayer, choking Cersei as she knifes him in the tripes. He's a tragic flawed hero, really. (Still side-eyeing chucking a kid out of a window, though.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilish Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, SeaWitch said: You think George will let him live long enough to earn redemption? It feels more likely that he'll go to his death as a hissing and a byword, Kingslayer and Kinslayer, choking Cersei as she knifes him in the tripes. He's a tragic flawed hero, really. (Still side-eyeing chucking a kid out of a window, though.) I can see him stopping Cersei from blowing KL up the way Aerys meant to do. Because of it his past sins will be forgiven. The man has lost his father, his sister-wife and his son. That's enough punishment already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaWitch Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, devilish said: I can see him stopping Cersei from blowing KL up the way Aerys meant to do. Because of it his past sins will be forgiven. The man has lost his father, his sister-wife and his son. That's enough punishment already. Watching Cersei blow up the Sept of Baelor was one of the clips(*)that made me think 'I should really read these books', having dodged them for twenty years. I still think she might. I kind of got the impression that George randomly hammers characters because nobody gets a happy ending, and there is no justice. Just because life has already stomped you into a hole, doesn't mean that you don't promptly get hit by lightning or nibbled to death by rabbits, too. (*) when you go searching for quotes about chaos, you have only yourself to blame if you have a weakness for devious smartarses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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