Boarsbane Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Screw them both, I was rooting for the Red Kraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxine Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 37 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: With all we know?? It would be a very tough decision. Viserys named Rhaenyra his heir, so I want to support her....But her first 3 heirs are bastards, and it's obvious. We see where bastard heirs get in Westeros... So, it'd be tough. The thing is though, if she's queen and sitting the IT they're still her children and they still had Targ blood. It's not like when Robert was king and the heirs weren't his and they didn't have any Baratheon blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skinner Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Blacks: For the Rightful Queen, For The Rouge Prince, for The Sea Snake, but most of all For Roddy and the Winter Wolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCOS Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Blacks. The only real option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanoj Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Greens, if only for the sake of consistency. Ignoring precedent the way Viserys did is just going to result in more and more succession crises in the future, as the will of a dead king will only hold so much weight. It's better for the succession to be considered something that works mechanically (the precedent established by Viserys's own accession could be interpreted as something like Salic law, which can be applied very mechanically), and which no individual king can mess with. A king might add a new rule to the existing ones when an unprecedented situation comes up, but he should not be able to violate existing rules or arbitrarily appoint a successor. This might result in some bad kings (such as Aegon II himself), but it will help avoid disastrous civil wars once the mechanism becomes established after a few generations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittanian Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 18 minutes ago, The Skinner said: Blacks: For the Rightful Queen, For The Rogue Prince, for The Sea Snake, but most of all For Roddy and the Winter Wolves. Also for the Lads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Bolton Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Greens. And Viserys was a fucking idiot for not foreseeing that his male heir would vie for the throne. Congratz on being the reason your house lost most of its dragons, dummy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Blacks!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceHenryris Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Blacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Matthis Light Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I wanna say Rhaenyra as she was the rightful heir, but her three eldest "Velaryon" sons were bastards, and with the way things are with these "Bastard Kings" in the current timeline...Well Criston Cole put it best when he said "Seven save this realm if we seat a bastard on the Iron Throne" #GoGreens #IMyselfSworeNoSuchOath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Varys Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 49 minutes ago, rmanoj said: Greens, if only for the sake of consistency. Ignoring precedent the way Viserys did is just going to result in more and more succession crises in the future, as the will of a dead king will only hold so much weight. It's better for the succession to be considered something that works mechanically (the precedent established by Viserys's own accession could be interpreted as something like Salic law, which can be applied very mechanically), and which no individual king can mess with. A king might add a new rule to the existing ones when an unprecedented situation comes up, but he should not be able to violate existing rules or arbitrarily appoint a successor. This might result in some bad kings (such as Aegon II himself), but it will help avoid disastrous civil wars once the mechanism becomes established after a few generations. Well, the Dance wasn't the succession war in Westeros. Daemon Blackfyre began another rebellion which had massive effects, and then came Robert Baratheon. Not to mention that there was apparently the threat of another Dance after Maekar's death. Rhaenyra winning the war or just ascending without a war wouldn't have confused the succession all that much, nor would it have necessarily changed the rules. Rhaenyra had only sons, so one of them would have ruled, and whether Jacaerys would then have favored his son or his daughter is completely open question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOM of the North Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Well, if the Starks thought that the blacks were the rightful pretenders then I will go with BLACK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyDornishman Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Blacks. Although I find it hard to place blame for the war entirely on one camp or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 14 minutes ago, Sir Matthis Light said: I wanna say Rhaenyra as she was the rightful heir, but her three eldest "Velaryon" sons were bastards, and with the way things are with these "Bastard Kings" in the current timeline...Well Criston Cole put it best when he said "Seven save this realm if we seat a bastard on the Iron Throne" #GoGreens #IMyselfSworeNoSuchOath What's wrong with having a bastard that comes from Rhaenyra's bloodline sitting the throne? And the current bastards sitting the throne and Rhaenyra's are absolutely different situations. Joffery was a bastard that did not come from the current Royal bloodline plus he was a sadistic little shit that needed killing. Cersei's bastards have no right to the throne because they are not king Robert's. Rhaenyra's sons be bastards do have a claim because they come directly from the ruling line which is Rhaenyra's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver King Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Blacks. Princess Rhaenyra, the rightful queen just as her father wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonheart Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Blacks Always a supporter of the rightful Queen Rhaenyra Targaryen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Matthis Light Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 21 minutes ago, The Wolves said: What's wrong with having a bastard that comes from Rhaenyra's bloodline sitting the throne? And the current bastards sitting the throne and Rhaenyra's are absolutely different situations. Joffery was a bastard that did not come from the current Royal bloodline plus he was a sadistic little shit that needed killing. Cersei's bastards have no right to the throne because they are not king Robert's. Rhaenyra's sons be bastards do have a claim because they come directly from the ruling line which is Rhaenyra's. True there's really nothing wrong with her(Rhaenyras) bastards mentally or physically, heck they were even Dragonriders, but based on the history of bastard vying for the IT, or sitting upon it, seems to spell disaster for the realm. And I really don't need to point out the burning of the Riverlands, to the 1st and 2nd battles of Tumbleton, Death of many great knights and lords during all the Blackfyre Rebellions, to the present day burning(again) in the Riverlands during the War of the Five Kings. No matter what it is, a bastard sitting or trying to sit the IT spells horror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
good girl Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Greens. Not only did Viserys pass over his own sons, he passed over his brother when he named his daughter heir. Rhaenyra had no claim to the throne and Viserys had no right to violate the line of succession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockwave Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 blacks greens are usurpers and opportunitist. Aegon II was like an Aegon the unworthy or Joffrey in the making Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
good girl Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 1 minute ago, shockwave said: blacks greens are usurpers and opportunitist. Aegon II was like an Aegon the unworthy or Joffrey in the making Seating the eldest son of the king on the throne is usurping it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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