williamjm Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 16 minutes ago, Paxter said: I don't think he's ever batted in the top three in any international match, so it will be interesting to see how he goes. Given Roy's poor form, it's probably worth a try. I'm still not clear if the plan is to have him open. Moeen might make more sense given that he's had a fair bit of experience opening internationally. Yeah I'm expecting a re-run of the last Champions Trophy final. Can't really see Pakistan or Bangladesh getting up (and am still shocked that they are semi-finalists!) I'm hoping the weather is better for the final this time (although I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't), I seem to remember last time it got turned into what was effectively a T20 match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 10 minutes ago, williamjm said: I'm hoping the weather is better for the final this time (although I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't), I seem to remember last time it got turned into what was effectively a T20 match. Yes it would be a shame if that happened again. Anyone think that this might (finally!) be the last Champions Trophy? I'm not convinced this year's edition has been a success, though I guess there are a few potentially redemptive games left. The ICC has penciled something in for 2021 but who knows if that will go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljkeane Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 So Bairstow does open, and he's saved from being out lbw on review for a duck by the umpire's call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Winged Shadow Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Pakistan looking pretty good so far. Could be a good game this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Umm...England not looking too clever here. Sixth wicket just goes down. Against most other teams, I'd say they were in huge trouble but you never know with Pakistan and England do bat deep. As long as Stokes is still there, England can get to a competitive total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Yeah my money is still on England here, provided Stokes bats through (or most of the way through). Pakistan really should be favourites at this stage, but their batting is quite dire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljkeane Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 Rashid run out. Yeah, Pakistan's batting isn't great but I don't think England are going to have enough to defend here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Okay, England are in the shit now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Winged Shadow Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I think its a par score considering Pakistan's woeful batting lineup. I think Pakistan will handle Ali and Rashid well, but might not be able to handle English seamers if they can swing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Winged Shadow Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Damn, Pakistan off to a good start. But you get the feeling that they might have a few freebies in em. Hopefully they can hold their nerves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Pakistan going along quite nicely. Can't take anything for granted though as they were looking comfortable against SL too. There hasn't been much conventional swing for the bowlers in this tournament which is really unusual for English conditions. IIRC, one of the commentators had mentioned in an earlier game that a different ball is being used, one with a less pronounced seam. Quite disappointing that as it is yet another thing in favour of batsmen in a format that is becoming more and more stacked in favour of batters almost to the point where average (or slightly above average) batsmen are being made to look like world beaters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljkeane Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 Well that was comprehensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Yeah that was too easy really. I'm stunned. I guess Pakistan's best chance was always going to be bowling first and hopefully chasing down a small target. They executed it perfectly. Maybe the Mickey Arthur effect? ETA: I can just see India smashing Pakistan in the final now, but let's see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 13 hours ago, Paxter said: ETA: I can just see India smashing Pakistan in the final now, but let's see... There's a way to go before we get there. That wicket of Tamim on a no ball could be very costly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 India well on top now. Can't see Bangladesh getting to a competitive enough total now to trouble a formidable Indian batting lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Yeah they've lost too many wickets to be able to launch an effective assault in the last ten overs. I think the toss was crucial again - Bangladesh would've been better off chasing and trying to emulate their win over NZ. Pretty crazy that the final will end up being a replay of that group stage drubbing of Pakistan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Man, these pitches should have been better than what we've seen so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljkeane Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 The grounds are only allowed to use three pitches during the tournament for some reason so they're using pitches which have already been played on now. Seems like an odd rule to me. ETA: Actually I'm wrong, it was a used pitch in Cardiff but they used a new one today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Is there any hope for Pakistan in the final? My head says that this will be another one-sided affair, but my heart says that Pakistan can do something special and turn the game into a tight contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 With Pakistan's bowling attack, they're certainly in for a shout. I'm surprised at how one sided the coverage has been ( basically writing pakistan off); we've been good, but I don't know to what extent we've been *really* tested. I hope we get a better pitch than the one we had for India V Bangladesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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