fixitwilya Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 If Naz would be charged with Grand Theft Auto, And is found not guilty in his murder trial. Would he still have to do the time for the theft? he really did take the car without permission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiDisaster Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 6 hours ago, fixitwilya said: If Naz would be charged with Grand Theft Auto, And is found not guilty in his murder trial. Would he still have to do the time for the theft? he really did take the car without permission If he was convicted on the grand theft charge and acquitted on the murder then yes, he would still have to do the time for the theft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbunting Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 7 hours ago, fixitwilya said: If Naz would be charged with Grand Theft Auto, And is found not guilty in his murder trial. Would he still have to do the time for the theft? he really did take the car without permission If this charge happened, the family would try to push the GTA charge and trial out to happen after the murder one so they could just drop it and he would walk free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixitwilya Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 17 hours ago, Astromech said: I thought Naz told Stone he took the cab without permission, which would be information Stone could only use if Naz gave Stone informed consent to do so. I do not recall any conversation regarding the cab between the 2 of them, but could have missed, and they could have also spoke about it off screen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astromech Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 1 minute ago, fixitwilya said: I do not recall any conversation regarding the cab between the 2 of them, but could have missed, and they could have also spoke about it off screen Yeah, I'll have to watch that episode again. I may be wrong about that particular bit of info being shared, but thought Naz told him he took the cab without permission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbunting Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Astromech said: Yeah, I'll have to watch that episode again. I may be wrong about that particular bit of info being shared, but thought Naz told him he took the cab without permission. He did, basically mumbled that he didn't have permission. But that was while Stone was his lawyer, so privilege applies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astromech Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 12 minutes ago, dbunting said: He did, basically mumbled that he didn't have permission. But that was while Stone was his lawyer, so privilege applies. Thanks. In that case, Stone would need Naz's informed consent. I'm very interested to see how Stone would react to a potential call from the other cab owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixitwilya Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 1 hour ago, dbunting said: He did, basically mumbled that he didn't have permission. But that was while Stone was his lawyer, so privilege applies. I watched all episodes again and could not find any scene where the cab was mentioned. Even the scene where he mumbled about permission. Can you give me a heads up where that scene is? It's most likely gonna be useless anyway, I'm pretty sure John would not accept the case on behalf of the 2 co owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixitwilya Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Does anyone feel the knife, clothes and shoes might be thrown out because of the questionable chain of custody with the evidence? The CSU techs ask Klein for them, he said he sent 2 uniforms over with the items, which then was turned over to a dispatcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martini Sigil Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Side note: Riz Ahmed... (Naz).... has a pretty nice part in the new Bourne movie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astromech Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 3 hours ago, fixitwilya said: Does anyone feel the knife, clothes and shoes might be thrown out because of the questionable chain of custody with the evidence? The CSU techs ask Klein for them, he said he sent 2 uniforms over with the items, which then was turned over to a dispatcher. Yeah, I'm questioning a lot of the police techniques, especially Box's constant questioning of Naz even after he knew Naz was represented by Stone. The chain of custody is definitely questionable. The show seems to at least emphasize the issues with the case for the viewer. I'm wondering if Naz will be convicted on the show in spite of all these flaws, signaling to the viewer how unjust the system can be. I'm hoping not. That would be a disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 a wrongful conviction won't say anything about the fairness of the justice system, given the implausibly overwhelming circumstantial evidence you couldn't possibly write a scenario where an innocent man looked more guilty (except perhaps giving Naz a prior criminal history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astromech Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 23 minutes ago, Commodore said: a wrongful conviction won't say anything about the fairness of the justice system, given the implausibly overwhelming circumstantial evidence you couldn't possibly write a scenario where an innocent man looked more guilty (except perhaps giving Naz a prior criminal history) Hence my use of the term "signaling", i.e. trying to send a message to the audience about injustice. I hope that isn't the route this series goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixitwilya Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Freddy looks pretty settled in his cell. You tend not to stay longer than a year at Rikers, I'm curious what his situation is. I'm also wondering if Freddy's way of showing Naz to protect himself is to teach him how to box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astromech Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Interesting push-pull dynamic this episode with Freddy and the other inmate. I'm curious as to Freddy's angle. Wondering if the attacks were merely to persuade Naz to accept Freddy's protection. Crowe is a real snake. I loved her reaction when Naz told her to quit. Interesting to see Chandra and Stone seem to be working together next week, unless he is just feeding her info or advice as a type of mentor on the case. And holy cameos: Sopranos flashback with Janice and Benny Fazio, Q from The Magicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Really good episode. Could tell that dude who burned Nas was a whack job, wonder if Nas will just want protection or actually want Freddie to hurt that guy. All set up for Stone to be back on the case which is nice, hopefully more of him investigating and less of his feet. Glad the cat is still alive. Michael K Williams is as good as he always is, love the man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixitwilya Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 What is up with the deer head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbunting Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 1 hour ago, fixitwilya said: What is up with the deer head? I wondered the same thing, seems extremely out of place in a NYC 20 something womans apartment. My first thought was a camera in one of the eyes, but they would have found it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixitwilya Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Naz was intimidated to drink, take pills and snort powder. He was actually date raped. He learns fast though. Looked Alison Crowe in the eye and told her to quit. No snitching.but knows people will do many things to get to him. I'm also curious as to Freddie's real motive, It's not all for intellectual conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixitwilya Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I want to know who stepdad was arguing with at the funeral? He was talking about signing papers and sending checks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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