X-Men Apocalypse: continued

[williamjm]

1 hour ago, David Selig said:

My friends wanted to watch the post-credits scene so I stayed with them and had to wait for all credits. And it just brought home for me the amount of work put into this movie by all kinds of people, probably over a thousand of them. So much money and effort goes into these blockbusters, yet often they couldn't be bothered to write a half-decent script.

I also watched the credits, the introduction of CGI has really increased the numbers of people who need to be mentioned. For a more low-tech approach to effects I liked that someone had the fantastic job title 'Inflatable Crowd Supervisor'.

[ants]

10 hours ago, RumHam said:

Ouch.

A lot of people who aren't comic book fans rate X3 as one of the better movies in the franchise.

[red snow]

7 hours ago, David Selig said:

My friends wanted to watch the post-credits scene so I stayed with them and had to wait for all credits. And it just brought home for me the amount of work put into this movie by all kinds of people, probably over a thousand of them. So much money and effort goes into these blockbusters, yet often they couldn't be bothered to write a half-decent script.

It is exasperating when you see the budgets going into these films and you think "why couldn't you have spent some more time money on the script as well". Elysium is the one that stands out for me- a film that has strong actors and looks beautiful and yet is devoid of any soul/passion.

6 hours ago, williamjm said:

I also watched the credits, the introduction of CGI has really increased the numbers of people who need to be mentioned. For a more low-tech approach to effects I liked that someone had the fantastic job title 'Inflatable Crowd Supervisor'.

There were some funny names in there as well but I've already forgotten them. The credits were probably more entertaining than the post credits scene

we didn't even get to see Sinister. Come on, even Marvel shows us Thanos even if they never show him doing anything

[Red Tiger]

5 hours ago, ants said:

A lot of people who aren't comic book fans rate X3 as one of the better movies in the franchise.

A lot being a very small minority.

[Manhole Eunuchsbane]

15 hours ago, ants said:

A lot of people who aren't comic book fans rate X3 as one of the better movies in the franchise.

A lot of people freebase cocaine as well.

[Kalbear]

1 hour ago, Manhole Eunuchsbane said:

A lot of people freebase cocaine as well.

THERE ARE DOZENS OF US

[Manhole Eunuchsbane]

1 hour ago, Kalbear said:

THERE ARE DOZENS OF US

And it makes me happy when you identify yourselves. 

/Miss you down in the old NFL thread by the way. Hope you are doing well. 

[Batman]

Just saw it. Post Credits scene was lame. I had to wait like 5 minutes just to see a name on a box? Give me a little more. 

 

Sophie Turners accent was not good, but I was expecting it to be worse. Like Peter Dinklige bad. Which is about as bad as it gets accent-wise. 

 

How many people did Magneto kill? Hundreds of thousands at least. Most Likely millions. Possibly ten million plus. And everyone is just cool with that? Cool with letting him go? Everyone had a go at Superman for letting Batman get away with killing a few dozen career criminals. Xavier let Magneto go on his way as a friend despite mass murder and attempted genocide. Not good enough. 

 

Wolverine is always the best part of the team movies. And yet they can never get this guy a decent solo movie. 

[Howdyphillip]

 I just got back from seeing this and my initial reaction is that it just wasn't very good. With the last couple of flicks exceeding expectations, this was somewhat of a let down. It is still nowhere in the range of awful that Man of Steel was, and it was probably better than Barman vs.Superman. (I didn't watch the latter), but this movie just seemed to miss in a lot of places. The humor was off... They went to the Quicksilver well for way too long. I didn't really get any of the character's motivations, especially on team Apocalypse.

Oh well, they can't all be great. It was still passably entertaining. 

[Bastard of Boston]

If X-Men: Apocalypse came out ten years ago, I'd be euphoric. This isn't ten years ago, though -- I expect so much more out of these movies. I found it to be hollow and without personality. Say what you will about BvS, but the movie had a personality -- even if you hated it.

Fassbender gave another great performance as Mags, but McAvoy -- who is usually as great as Fassbender -- didn't get much to work with. I can't even bring myself to talk about Mystique anymore -- what's been said still applies. You get a great actor playing a great character -- Oscar Isaac as Apocalypse -- and you cover him in shitty makeup and digitize his voice. Travesty. The Horseman were wallpaper. Angel showed potential when first intro'd, but it never went anywhere. Psylocke was as pointless as her pseudo appearance in X3. I'll give credit to Shipp as Storm, as it's the most recognizable Storm we've gotten, but I still found her to be just "fine."

My favorite parts of the movie included Scott, Jean, and Nightcrawler...and I'm willing to admit it's mostly due to nostalgia. I just loved revisiting those characters, especially after the treatment Cyke has gotten up to this point. The Jean moment at the end was my favorite part of the film -- anyone who has seen it doesn't need clarification. Quicksilver got another fun sequence -- you can tell this is going to be a thing in every movie. It wasn't as fun as the last one, so Singer needs to be careful about going to that well too often.

So yeah, I didn't hate it. The issue is I kind of felt apathy towards it.

[Red Tiger]

1 minute ago, Bastard of Boston said:

So yeah, I didn't hate it. The issue is I kind of felt apathy towards it.

Which in my experience can actually be far worse than hating something.

[red snow]

2 hours ago, Red Tiger said:

Which in my experience can actually be far worse than hating something.

At least there's a chance someone might love it in that scenario.

I think I'm just getting used to not expecting much from blockbusters. If there's a few cool scenes I can live with that. I guess I have Age of Ultron to thank for lowering my standards.

[Red Tiger]

14 minutes ago, red snow said:

At least there's a chance someone might love it in that scenario.

I think I'm just getting used to not expecting much from blockbusters. If there's a few cool scenes I can live with that. I guess I have Age of Ultron to thank for lowering my standards.

Normally id agree with you, but I am a huge X-men fan and I used to be a fan of Singer's X-men films, so I basically had to have at least decent expectations for these films. Apocalypse just left me feeling absolutely nothing inside, so lifeless, uninspired and bloated.

[Howdyphillip]

18 minutes ago, Red Tiger said:

Normally id agree with you, but I am a huge X-men fan and I used to be a fan of Singer's X-men films, so I basically had to have at least decent expectations for these films. Apocalypse just left me feeling absolutely nothing inside, so lifeless, uninspired and bloated.

 I think this reaction may be just a bit overblown. I didn't think it was a good movie either, but at least they stayed true to the characters we have grown to love. 

 All in all, it was a mediocre movie with some decent character bits that suffered from having an all powerful villain. It is what it is. I don't feel like I wasted my money, but I could have got more bang for my buck. I am fine with a misfire. Singer has delivered four out of five now.

[Red Tiger]

1 hour ago, Howdyphillip said:

 I think this reaction may be just a bit overblown. I didn't think it was a good movie either, but at least they stayed true to the characters we have grown to love. 
 

I think you're misreading my post. I meant that I felt apathy for the film and that I though the film was bloated and uninspired.

I disagree that they stayed true to the characters we have grown to love, Mystique was once again doing everything to keep her real self hidden, despite the fact that the previous films were meant to show us that she is "mutant and proud" (and yet she stays in human form while at the fricking institute), which makes me feel like the writers just didnt give a fuck about her character development. Staying true to the characters also means you stay true to how they should logically change.

Once again they pulled out the Magneto man-pain motivation, yes a couple of humans fucked you over, that does not mean you set to wipe out all humanity (news flash, your wife was human too and so is Quicksilver's, didnt stop you from banging her), again it seems like Magneto has learned absolutely nothing.

Xavier (for part of the film at least) still argues with Raven when she points out that these kids need to learn how to fight, despite the previous two films showing, that YES teaching them how to fight would be pretty damn important. Please dont tell me about how he could not have known about the ugliness of the world, he is the most powerful telepath AND he has Cerebro, he could have easily seen how fucked up things still were. He could have seen it far better than Mystique.

Another problem I have is you could have sliced off that thing with Weapon X and Stryker and NOTHING would have changed. They just shoe-horned it in for Hugh Jackman.

[Bastard of Boston]

Another thing, for a big disaster porn movie, it felt unbelievably small. Apoc and his Horsemen enacted a semi-Apocalypse, and you saw no people, anywhere. It felt like the X-Men and Team Apoc were the only characters on the planet. Maybe that's why everyone could pretend Magneto didn't commit mass genocide -- we saw nobody die. We saw nobody, period -- I get why we didn't see anyone die. It's a thing with these movies. But where is everyone? It was just weird. As big as the stakes were, because it didn't feel like anyone else was in the movie, you never really felt the sense of impending doom.

I would've bumped this movie up a whole grade if they would've given us the final action sequence in their end-of-movie costumes. Missed opportunity.

[Kindly Old Man]

A great review by Devin Faraci at BMD. Some good lines:

"In the case of X-Men: Apocalypse the assembled cast of excellent thespians brings the burning hot energy of embarrassment felt by a kid whose mom walked in on him masturbating. It’s a movie where everyone on screen is clearly ashamed of what they’re doing, and with good reason."

On JLaw: "Every now and again there is life in her eyes, and you realize that her phone buzzed in her pocket alerting her that her paycheck has been deposited."

"Olivia Munn, by the way, may not have been aware that the camera was rolling in any of her scenes."

Haha. I still wish I hadn't watched this, but at least I'm getting some entertainment out of it.

[Red Tiger]

16 minutes ago, Kindly Old Man said:

A great review by Devin Faraci at BMD. Some good lines:

"In the case of X-Men: Apocalypse the assembled cast of excellent thespians brings the burning hot energy of embarrassment felt by a kid whose mom walked in on him masturbating. It’s a movie where everyone on screen is clearly ashamed of what they’re doing, and with good reason."

On JLaw: "Every now and again there is life in her eyes, and you realize that her phone buzzed in her pocket alerting her that her paycheck has been deposited."

"Olivia Munn, by the way, may not have been aware that the camera was rolling in any of her scenes."

Haha. I still wish I hadn't watched this, but at least I'm getting some entertainment out of it.

The Red Wedding was never this ruthless.....fucking awesome review!
 

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If Lawrence is sleep walking Sophie Turner, playing young Jean Gray, is the walking dead. Never before has an actress whose skill I have seen employed in the past give as empty a performance as Turner does here.

 

 

[Kalbear]

It is so weird that if you were told that Batman vs. Superman, X-men vs. Apocalypse, Captain American and Deadpool were coming out - no one on the planet would have picked them in reverse order as far as quality is concerned. 

[dooog]

24 minutes ago, Kalbear said:

It is so weird that if you were told that Batman vs. Superman, X-men vs. Apocalypse, Captain American and Deadpool were coming out - no one on the planet would have picked them in reverse order as far as quality is concerned. 

Tbh Deadpool was the one I wanted to see most. I knew B vs S would be terrible. I did however think X-Men would be better than Civil War.