US Election: It's a post-TrumpDay world

[Kalbear]

36 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said:

So Cruz thinks prematurely announcing Fiorinna as has running mate is going to do something to stem the Trump tide? Is it because she's also a coporate insider instead of a Washington insider?

The imaging they're going for is that cruz is more women friendly. They're trying to go after trump that way.

[Astromech]

I simply can not imagine anyone excited about the Carly and the Cruz ticket.

 

29 minutes ago, DanteGabriel said:

I think he needed something to get some media time and attention the day after getting blown out in five states (he might not have gotten a single delegate). I also wonder how many people were actually willing to join his ticket, given how widely loathed he is and how far behind he is. Fiorina must be desperate to stay relevant.

Who is more desperate, Carly or Christie? He truly seems miserable standing behind Trump at those rallies.

[Jace, Extat]

5 minutes ago, Astromech said:

Who is more desperate, Carly or Christie? He truly seems miserable standing behind Trump at those rallies.

Every time I see him back there I think of the TV show ROME when Caesar parades the King of the Gauls during his triumph then has him strangled to death in front of a crowd.

[Astromech]

I've been waiting for him to go full Vader and toss Trump like Palpatine. He has to be thinking it constantly.

Trump forcing him to wear a ball gag may be the breaking point.

 

[all swedes are racist]

27 minutes ago, Astromech said:

I've been waiting for him to go full Vader and toss Trump like Palpatine. He has to be thinking it constantly.

Trump forcing him to wear a ball gag may be the breaking point.

 

And you just started Tingles next book

[Astromech]

Haha, why did I google that?

[Jace, Extat]

I'll trust you guys to tell me if this is reliable, but a Yahoo report says that republican approval rates are at the lowest in 20 years.

[Shryke]

7 hours ago, All-for-Joffrey said:

Funny to see the 2008 PUMAs bitching about Bernie or Bust now.

Where are you seeing that?

I don't think a single person in this thread is a "PUMA" and I can't think of anyone prominent commenting on the primary now who was one back then.

[Shryke]

2 hours ago, The Anti-Targ said:

So Cruz thinks prematurely announcing Fiorinna as has running mate is going to do something to stem the Trump tide? Is it because she's also a coporate insider instead of a Washington insider?

It's cause she's the only one who would agree to work with Cruz.

[Shryke]

6 hours ago, Kalbear said:

Awesome - former Sanders staffers putting together a PAC to win congressional elections in 2018. This is so far the best news to come out of the election 

http://www.salon.com/2016/04/28/this_is_what_the_revolution_looks_like_former_sanders_staffers_are_launching_a_new_pac_aimed_at_midterm_congressional_elections/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

Sounds good from the headline but once you start reading more they start sounding really stupid:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-congress_us_5720e608e4b0b49df6a9c933

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“We learned … that the grassroots are better qualified to run electoral campaigns than Democratic party operatives,” Exley told The Huffington Post in an email. “They just need to be given the tools, the data, the offices and the structure to succeed.”

Though it could be challenging to find Republican candidates who won’t flee from any affiliation with former Sanders supporters, the PAC hopes to recruit Republicans to run in districts hostile to Democrats.  

“We want a supermajority in Congress that is fighting for jobs, criminal justice reform and the environment,” Exley said. “Most Americans actually want that, and I think we get it by running Dems in blue areas, Republicans in deep red areas, and by running independents wherever we didn’t defeat incumbents.”

This task, of course, would require Republicans to back progressive values — something they don’t appear eager to do. But Corbin Trent, another former Sanders staffer, said bringing Republicans on board is “the key to it being a successful idea” and there’s enough overlap between Sanders’ platform and tea party conservatives to make the PAC’s goals feasible.

 

Sanders promise to reduce the US prison population by an amount he literally can't accomplish as President is more realistic then this.

[The Marquis de Leech]

7 hours ago, Maester Drew said:

Like I had to explain to my friends and family, me voting for Bernie will not be "handing the election to the Republicans." I live in Texas, so no matter who I vote for, Texas will go to the Republican candidate (as it has in every election after 1976). So I will not feel guilty if Hillary loses in November.

I did say "depending on the state". If it's Texas, fine.

I mean, there is there an off-chance that Trump could conceivably make Texas competitive via high hispanic turnout and grumpy Cruz loyalists, but if that happened, Hillary would already be over 400 Electoral Votes anyway.

[Red Hermit]

The amount of Cruz supporters I'm seeing who are coming around to the idea that a Clinton presidency is preferable to a Trump presidency still seems to be increasing.  Despite their beliefs that Clinton is super corrupt and a socialist/communist, they understand the potential for violence that could come with a Trump victory.  The death threats that GOP delegates are receiving and the way the Trump campaign encourages it by threatening to release addresses and other personal information is scaring the shit out of intellectual and movement conservatives.  A GOP party split seems almost certain after this election cycle.

[The Marquis de Leech]

I can't see a split unless the convention cheats Trump of the nomination. The best analogy is 1972, with Trump as McGovern and Clinton as Nixon*, after which the party Establishment will reassert itself.

*One would hope Hillary has sufficient sense not to burgle Trump Tower...

[DireWolfSpirit]

Latest Senate poll results-

Ted Cruz: 7

Satan/Lucifer: 88

w/ 5 abstaining

An outraged Lindsey Graham is calling for an investigation into how in the world Cruz got 7 votes?

[TrackerNeil]

10 hours ago, R'hllors Red Lobster said:

Sure is nice of her to come back and help him lose the campaign. 

The best part is that, when Cruz/Fiorina finally pack it in, we'll get a second GOP Dropout video about Carly.

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

12 hours ago, Kalbear said:

The imaging they're going for is that cruz is more women friendly. They're trying to go after trump that way.

That's a secondary reason. He picked her mainly because she is popular with California Republicans. 

[TrackerNeil]

11 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

That's a secondary reason. He picked her mainly because she is popular with California Republicans. 

I wonder if that will have any impact on Cruz's California performance. That seems like an awfully slender thread upon which to hang your hopes, but then when you've run through all of the non-crazy options...

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

25 minutes ago, TrackerNeil said:

I wonder if that will have any impact on Cruz's California performance. That seems like an awfully slender thread upon which to hang your hopes, but then when you've run through all of the non-crazy options...

That's the belief. It's a long shot but it might be the only way to stop Trump.

[The Marquis de Leech]

39 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

That's a secondary reason. He picked her mainly because she is popular with California Republicans. 

Aren't California Republicans (in the post-Arnie era anyway) more economics-focussed than Cruz-style culture warriors?

[Fez]

8 minutes ago, Roose Boltons Pet Leech said:

Aren't California Republicans (in the post-Arnie era anyway) more economics-focussed than Cruz-style culture warriors?

Actually, no, is my understanding. Which is one of the reasons why the California GOP is almost completely ineffectual and so small these days. If they went like the New York GOP and mostly dropped the cultural stuff (the GOP-controlled NY state senate legalized gay marriage back before SCOTUS made all that moot), they'd likely still have some power instead of being such a rump party.

As for Fiorina, I think she's there because one of the few time's Trump's stumbled was that one debate and the week that followed it where she was going after him. He overplayed the misogyny since she's not as an acceptable target to Republican primary voters the way members of the media or Clinton is. Cruz is hoping Trump will do that again; but so far he's been smarter about it.