Ser Frasier of House Crane Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Ned and Jon Arryn named their children after Robert, and Jon Snow was named (if I'm not mistaken) after Arryn, but isn't it odd that Robert never named his own child after Ned? I know that Robert wasn't much of a father, and that Cersei's influence in that department was insurmountable, but you'd think he would've named at least one of his sons after Ned, at the very least after he heard about Robb's birth and wanted to pay him back in kind. Makes me wonder if Robert had suggested it and Cersei shot it down, or if Robert just didn't give it a second thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtree Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Not really, he has never cared about them. Didn't Cersei say that he was always away whenever her time was near ? He could've pressed Cersei to name the children but he didn't meaning he didn't care. Also i don't think Robb was named after Robert, Ned was away during his birth so it was Catelyn who named him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Tristan Flowers Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 There is at least one King of the Rock called Joffrey and one called Tommen, while neither name appears for any Baratheon ever. So I assume it was Cersei who chose the names. Robert propably didn´t care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slender Aimry Hill Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Well, there's a faint possibility he did, I suppose. Edric Dayne is nicknamed Ned. He shares his formal name with Edric Storm. It would be least conceivable to see Edric as a southron variant of Eddard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
239JMFL34109 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 I think it is two things 1) robet never had any real interest in any of his children. Does not matter where or when they came from... 2) cersei was never going to let that happen if she could help it cause she didn't want robert to influence her childern and his lack of interest means he would not spend the effront to do anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macgregor of the North Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Would've been weird actually now I think of it. Every time we heard somebody say Joff etc while addressing Joffrey, in its place would have been Ned. Nah, it just don't work. GRRM deliberately made it that it would have been a Cersei choice for the names and it works better.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigUpHerBones Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 1) Robert didn't care. by his own words the crown he won was a hallow victory, so why would he care about his lineage? Â Robert Baratheon aka The Demon of The Trident died the day Lyanna did, and The Whoremonger King was born. 2) The last time they saw each other in 15+ years before Roberts trip to WFÂ was Ned essentially telling Robert to fuck off and leave him be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaywolf123 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 I dont think he cared or bothered to do anything about his children! Â If Robert knew about Jaime&Cersei would he have cared? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bael's Bastard Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 1 hour ago, redtree said: Also i don't think Robb was named after Robert, Ned was away during his birth so it was Catelyn who named him Who else would Robb be named after? As far as I can tell there is no other Robb or Robert we know of who makes for a better case than Robert Baratheon. I see no legendary or beloved Tully or Whent with either name. Are you suggesting Cat would only name Robb after Robert if Ned was at the birth? I don't see the relevance of Ned being there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Weirwoods Eyes Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Cersei named the Roberts official "Children". And most of Roberts mistresses and lovers named their kids to please him. Edric Storm is clearly named for Ned. Inorder to endear him to his father. A clever tactic when you have a Kings Bastard. What better way to make him think fondly of the son he barely see's than to name him for his best and dearly beloved friend. As is Ned Dayne, it seems which to me is the FAR more interesting thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigUpHerBones Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Quote If Robert knew about Jaime&Cersei would he have cared? nope. because he did know and did nothing other than bang more whores and have bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
239JMFL34109 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 34 minutes ago, Bael's Bastard said: Who else would Robb be named after? As far as I can tell there is no other Robb or Robert we know of who makes for a better case than Robert Baratheon. I see no legendary or beloved Tully or Whent with either name. Are you suggesting Cat would only name Robb after Robert if Ned was at the birth? I don't see the relevance of Ned being there. i think Cat named Robb after robert because at the time everyone thought Ned and Robert were best friends. I think Ned would not have named his child Robb at the time cause he was very angry with Robert.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raisin' Bran Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 2 hours ago, Slender Aimry Hill said: Well, there's a faint possibility he did, I suppose. Edric Dayne is nicknamed Ned. He shares his formal name with Edric Storm. It would be least conceivable to see Edric as a southron variant of Eddard... That is a very good possibility. Thanks for that insight. 1 hour ago, DigUpHerBones said: 1) Robert didn't care. by his own words the crown he won was a hallow victory, so why would he care about his lineage?  Robert Baratheon aka The Demon of The Trident died the day Lyanna did, and The Whoremonger King was born. 2) The last time they saw each other in 15+ years before Roberts trip to WF was Ned essentially telling Robert to fuck off and leave him be. Greyjoy Rebellion? They fought together at Pyke. Seems to me that Ned answered his King's summons and Robert wanted Ned there with him. There were a lot of other places to fight: Old Wyk, Great Wyk, Harlaw, Orkmont, etc. Ned could have easily taken his Northern forces elsewhere, but he did not. Admittedly, the hurt Robert felt in the aftermath of the sack of KL could have still bothered him when Joffrey was born, but Tommen was born after the Greyjoy Rebellion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Edric is the Stormlands pronounciation for Eddard. Robert's only important bastard is named for Ned. Â As for the official ones: Cersei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 He was so drunk all the time that he probably tried to said "Eddard" but slurred "Tommen". And yes, I have seen this happened. The name of a friend of mine was product of his father being very drunk. (relax, the name was ok, it was just the wrong name). 1 hour ago, Bright Blue Eyes said: Edric is the Stormlands pronounciation for Eddard. "Andal", rather than Stormlands. You have also Edric Dayne. 1 hour ago, Bright Blue Eyes said: Robert's only important bastard is named for Ned. Â Bingo. I hadn't realised that. Funny that Ned also named his "bastard" after the man he considered almost a father. So many bastards were born during the Robellion, that people probably ran out of names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 17 minutes ago, JCRB's Honeypot said: "Andal", rather than Stormlands. You have also Edric Dayne. Andal doesn't fit exactly. There are several sorts of Andal spelling. Edric is the one in southeastern Westeros, Stormlands and Dorne, thereabouts. In the RIverlands or the Vale? Probably not. The best example for that difference is Robert himself. He's spelled Robert, but the guys explicitly named for him are spelled Robb in the North and Robin in the Riverlands/Vale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Just now, Bright Blue Eyes said: Andal doesn't fit exactly. There are several sorts of Andal spelling. Edric is the one in southeastern Westeros, Stormlands and Dorne, thereabouts. In the RIverlands or the Vale? Probably not. The best example for that difference is Robert himself. He's spelled Robert, but the guys explicitly named for him are spelled Robb in the North and Robin in the Riverlands/Vale. You're right. What I meant to say was that "Edric" isn't exclusive to the Stormlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Lia Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Sweetrobin's actual name is Robert. It may not be a matter of specific variants in specific regions, just people varying the name to avoid confusion or because they like it better that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhail Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Because Cersei and robert's relationship was dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Yes, but that's kinda the point: Fitting the name given to him in KL to the spelling conventions in the Vale and/or the Riverlands. Robin Ryger was the captain of the Riverrun garrison, a Riverlander like Lysa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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