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Joe Abercrombie: The Collected Works (and in what order to read them) SPOILERS

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5 hours ago, Rorshach said:

What order should it be read in?

Alternating first and last chapters while working towards the middle from both ends.  Christopher Nolan edited the book. 

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On ‎7‎/‎17‎/‎2017 at 8:58 AM, unJon said:

Alternating first and last chapters while working towards the middle from both ends.  Christopher Nolan edited the book. 

It'd be trippy if Joe did some sort of Pulp Fiction-ish book where the order really was reversed and this kind of advice could be serious.  :lol:

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16 hours ago, Rhom said:

It'd be trippy if Joe did some sort of Pulp Fiction-ish book where the order really was reversed and this kind of advice could be serious.  :lol:

I'm still kind of surprised that he didn't like the Kill Bill comparison to Best Served Cold. I've always gotten a bit of a Tolkien meets Tarantino vibe from his writing.

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4 minutes ago, Let's Get Kraken said:

I'm still kind of surprised that he didn't like the Kill Bill comparison to Best Served Cold. I've always gotten a bit of a Tolkien meets Tarantino vibe from his writing.

Yeah, its such an easy comparison.  If he wasn't intending for it to appear that way, then maybe I can see the frustration... but its just there.

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On 19/07/2017 at 4:04 PM, Rhom said:

Yeah, its such an easy comparison.  If he wasn't intending for it to appear that way, then maybe I can see the frustration... but its just there.

I can remember listening to him at a launch for the event in London back in the day and he stated quite clearly that it was a homage to "Point Blank" (Payback was a remake with Mel Gibson). Maybe he's just upset no-one has spotted that influence over Kill Bill? I guess Kill Bill and Point Blank have the same revenge plot at heart.

The big difference is that BSC is a team effort where the others are more of a lone wolf venture.

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On ‎7‎/‎19‎/‎2017 at 3:59 PM, Let's Get Kraken said:

I'm still kind of surprised that he didn't like the Kill Bill comparison to Best Served Cold. I've always gotten a bit of a Tolkien meets Tarantino vibe from his writing.

The similarities with Kill Bill seem clear to me, but then all revenge plots are probably fairly similar.

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I think it's the fact that he hadn't seen KB when he wrote it and also  he didn't like KB. Could be wrong.

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23 minutes ago, Nicomo Cosca said:

https://www.joeabercrombie.com/2017/07/31/progress-report-july-17/

Don´t know what to make with that "dragon" and "Factory" mentions! But that progress report got me hyped!

Awesome, these are my most anticipated books at the moment and I like having a fantasy series I can actually look forward to reading. If the dragon comment is actually meant to reference something, I assume he means the (dormant?) clockwork dragon from Red Country. 

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Yeah, mine as well. I thought about the "dragon" that appeared in Red Country too, but I can´t remember the role it played lol it´s been 3 years since I read it! I`ll probably do a complete re read and finally get my hands on Sharp Ends before the new trilogy.

Looking forward to see how the "Industrial Revolution" affects the Circle of the World.

 

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Posted (edited)

I don't necessarily think that statement indicates that there are dragons in the book. I think he might have been using it to indicate a random trope example, interchangeably with something like "ninjas". The fantasy equivalent of a guy walking into the room with a gun.

Edited by Let's Get Kraken

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It'll be interesting to find out who the seven point of view characters are.

I'm guessing they'll include Monza's son, Ardee's child, and perhaps a child of Jezal and Terez.

Edited by SeanF

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14 hours ago, SeanF said:

It'll be interesting to find out who the seven point of view characters are.

I'm guessing they'll include Monza's son, Ardee's child, and perhaps a child of Jezal and Terez.

And Logan and Ferro's child of course...

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I just finished Sharp Ends. The chronological order in the OP is right but I don't feel like it is a good reading order. I would go with:

 

576: The Blade Itself (the trilogy works by going full circle at the end, therefore the first book must be read first)
566 (spring): A Beautiful Bastard (a flashback used to provide additional information about Glokta)
573 (autumn): Small Kindnesses
574 (autumn): The Fool Jobs (introduces Craw early so the reader already knows him when he starts The Heroes)
575 (summer): Skipping Town 
576-77: Before They Are Hanged
576 (spring): Hell (the fall of Dagoska from another point of view)
577: Last Argument of Kings
576 (summer): Two's Company (the war in the North from another point of view, and serves as a buffer between two big books)
579-80: Best Served Cold
580: Wrong Place, Wrong Time (Monza's revenge from other points of view)
584 (summer): Some Desperado (introduces Shy early)
584 (autumn): Yesterday, Near a Village Called Barden  
584: The Heroes
587 (autumn): Three's a Crowd 
590: Red Country - Part I
590 (summer): Freedom! (preferably should be read between parts I and II of Red Country)
590: Red Country - Parts II to VI
592 (spring): Tough Times All Over
570 (summer): Made a Monster (it was presented last in the collection for a reason; this is intended to be the last thing we read before the next trilogy)
605: New Trilogy Book 1

 

Another acceptable reading order would of course be to read the seven books in order of publication. But if you want to meddle the short stories and the big books, strict chronological order as presented in the OP is to be avoided IMO.

 

Sounds like the reading order running gag actually has a reason to exist now :P

 

@Joe Abercrombie Do you approve of this order?

Edited by Pilusmagnus

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33 minutes ago, Pilusmagnus said:

570 (summer): Made a Monster (it was presented last in the collection for a reason; this is intended to be the last thing we read before the next trilogy)

Idk if the next trilogy has anything to do with it. It might just be that this was the last impression Joe wanted us to have of Logen before he set the character aside.

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Are we sure the gap will be 13 years between Tough Times All Over and the new trilogy?

WRT Logen, I think his story is done. 

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2 minutes ago, SeanF said:

WRT Logen, I think his story is done. 

Yeah, accepting who and what he's always been, then riding off into the sunset to protect his loved ones from the violence that comes with that felt a lot like closure to me.

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