Wight nr 121 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Winter's Cold said: That might turn out being a hope for your grandchildren. Probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 PJ's recap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wight nr 121 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 So I guess it is just a matter of time before we have Daenerys and Yara in bed together, with Theon forced to listen to his sister "fucking the tits off" the Dragon Queen. Perhaps Tyrion will provide some cock jokes. With the quality of writing on this show, this scene is actually a real possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tijgy Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 1 hour ago, The Prince of Porne said: For some reason, this is what I kept picturing when Jon was beating on Ramsay. I admit. I really liked that particular moment. 2 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said: PJ's recap: Except for the fact I do not agree with the fact D&D adapted the general themes pretty well , this week is pretty good. Love Chad like always; he had some crazy adventures the past last weeks. And he is certainly right about Sansa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plastic throne Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Just now, Magnus the Good said: So I guess it is just a matter of time before we have Daenerys and Yara in bed together, with Theon forced to listen to his sister "fucking the tits off" the Dragon Queen. Perhaps Tyrion will provide some cock jokes. With the quality of writing on this show, this scene is actually a real possibility. Oh yes, that's a done deal, they gonna fuck for sure. In D&D universe, sides the fact women are more capable than men, It also takes a woman to satisfy a woman! This show is starting to turn into some bad anime with superheroes teenage girls in front line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnston Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 How come it was never mentioned that Tyrions wife was married off to and raped by Ramsey? Surely that's something Theon would have dropped into the conversation and been mentioned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Cygne Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 The forced marriage of the hostage was null and void because... they wanted her to marry Ramsay, because it would be "hugely dramatically satisfying" according to Cogman. Quote Littlefinger: I assure you she's still a virgin. Tyrion never consumated the marriage. By the law of the land, she's no man's wife. Inspect her, if you must. Roose Bolton: I leave that to the brothel keeper. My guess is in the books, it's null and void anyway. Vows said at swordpoint are not valid and all... but probably the marriage to Tysha is still valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Quork Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 6 minutes ago, Johnston said: How come it was never mentioned that Tyrions wife was married off to and raped by Ramsey? Surely that's something Theon would have dropped into the conversation and been mentioned? That would, of course, require some consistent thought from the writers. Tyrion and his wife were effectively framed for regicide. In the show, Tyrion and Sandra laugh and joke together. I think he would have been interested in his fate and perhaps the clever guy (who drinks and knows things) might be able to connect some dots. But noooooo, that's not what we get. We get a retcon that Theon made dwarf jokes ... which he didn't. *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolorous Gabe Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 LOL I started trying to catch up and realised after reading about ten pages I was still 20 behind. I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but I burst out laughing in the middle of the Battle for Winterfell when Jon swung his sword at a mounted, charging cavalryman and knocked him flying backwards. It was hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Cygne Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 15 minutes ago, Ser Quork said: That would, of course, require some consistent thought from the writers. Well, Sandor didn't find out about it either. It was going to be tossed aside by the time Sandor came back into her story. So now Ramsay is dead, all that really matters is she's empowered now. Jon doesn't listen to her, even though she doesn't say anything. And she saves the day by writing a letter to the man who pimped her out to Ramsay. And feeds Ramsay to the dogs, because, well, might as well do as Ramsay does. WOMEN ON TOP! I feel so empowered watching this show! I really get the feeling they truly understand women! In fact, it's my favorite show as a woman, because they are totally catering to me! /sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnston Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 21 minutes ago, Le Cygne said: The forced marriage of the hostage was null and void because... they wanted her to marry Ramsay, because it would be "hugely dramatically satisfying" according to Cogman. My guess is in the books, it's null and void anyway. Vows said at swordpoint are not valid and all... but probably the marriage to Tysha is still valid. Maybe null and void, but when Tyrion mentioned that last time they spoke at Winterfell you'd have thought there would have been, at the very least, an 'Oh BTW and she could probably do with some assistance'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeforTravel Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 24 minutes ago, Le Cygne said: The forced marriage of the hostage was null and void because... they wanted her to marry Ramsay, because it would be "hugely dramatically satisfying" according to Cogman. My guess is in the books, it's null and void anyway. Vows said at swordpoint are not valid and all... but probably the marriage to Tysha is still valid. Yes it didn't just make sense. It made "narrative sense". #D&Dquotebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Harbors Wrath Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 2 hours ago, YouSnowNothing said: "Yet our way is the older way. The blood of the First Men still flows in the veins of the Starks, and we hold to the belief that the man who passes the sentence should swing the sword. If you would take a man's life, you owe it to him to look into his eyes and hear his final words. And if you cannot bear to do that, then perhaps the man does not deserve to die. One day, Bran, you will be Robb's bannerman, holding a keep of your own for your brother and your king, and justice will fall to you. When that day comes, you must take no pleasure in the task, but neither must you look away. A ruler who hides behind paid executioners soon forgets what death is." "MUST TAKE NO PLEASURE IN THE TASK". In an episode that should've been entirely about Sansa and Jon reclaiming their Stark heritage, Sandra forgets what it really means to serve Stark justice. I suppose it's a nice follow-up to Jon hanging a small child and his co-cospirators, rather than execute them the old way. Really excellent undercutting of running theme of Stark-ness being related to adherence to the old way - Robb dooming himself with Karstark, Theon attempting to follow the old way with Mikken/Cassel but failing, Jon's "fetch me a block", Arya's execution of the night's watch deserter. Maybe D&D are the same kind of mouth-breathers who insist that Sansa is the least Stark-like of the Starks and wouldn't follow Ned's example (apparrently she's "just like her mother" so I guess they do have that same failure of comprehension). Or maybe themes are just for seventh-grade book reports. This thing with the hanging is and always has been a stretch. "Swing the sword" means carry out the sentence...not literally swing a sword. What if Jons chosen weapon was a battle axe? He cut the line and was directly responsible for their deaths. This show is a hot molten mess...but this is not one of the reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyche Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 I had a conversation lately with a friend about how I think that the show is sexist. He was all upset about how I could insult and label the writers that way and they couldn't even defend themselves... and so on... Feminism has been much discussed in these threads but I think it's very important to point out how damaging shows like GOT are and how they affect how we perceive women and men. Men are less likely to seek psychological help if needed and are more likely to commit suicide because they have to be "strong" and "manly". Just an example... There are many more, of course, for both women and men. I just wanted to express that I'm glad that you all don't let this topic go and consider it week after week. This place is my sanctuary Famous shows like GOT have a responsibility, not to idealise the reality but to show men and women as people. Unfortunately, we only get badassery and tits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Quork Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Here tis: chrysreviews http://imgur.com/a/58xeo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knight in Motley Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 8 hours ago, teej6 said: I want someone/anyone to ask Sansa in next week's episode why the hell she kept the possible assistance of the Vale army a secret. Better yet, I'd like Lyanna Mormont to give Sansa the stare down (see below) and tell her that she's either an idiot or a traitor for getting all those Northmen and quite possibly her little brother killed. http://mashable.com/2016/06/20/game-of-thrones-lyanna-mormont-shade/#fVmqmQivzZql You mean Lady Olly? ffs we don't need another character who delivers 90% of their exposition through stares, even if the new one is twice as good as the other two combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Cygne Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 I think the show is horrible to men and women. But I certainly take exception to the assertion that they are catering to me as a feminist (which I and everyone I know personally thinks just means "women are people, too"). I hate the "women on top" thing, it's offensive. Truly offensive. And I don't think it's genuine at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tijgy Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 6 minutes ago, The Knight in Motley said: You mean Lady Olly? ffs we don't need another character who delivers 90% of their exposition through stares, even if the new one is twice as good as the other two combined. They just love to have a girl being sassy at Sansa, Jon & Davos They literally said it in their Inside the Episode. I miss Aly Mormont (or wait I don't. I do not want to see how she would have turned out). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cas Stark Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, Le Cygne said: I think the show is horrible to men and women. But I certainly take exception to the assertion that they are catering to me as a feminist (which I and everyone I know personally thinks just means "women are people, too"). I hate the "women on top" thing, it's offensive. Truly offensive. And I don't think it's genuine at all. It's totally not genuine, it's a response to the criticism about sexual violence that they claim they don't pay attention to...didn't one of the writers or directors say as much and he's off the show this year? LOL. But, they are definitely attempting to deliver a feminist message..and the sad thing is...there are a lot of people out there who are receiving it as such...who think that women doing violence just like men IS empowering...that it was great that Sandra killed Ramsay and smirked about it...that the Dornish nuts also 'took power'...a lot of reviewers mention all of this in a positive manner in terms of feminism and portraying 'strong women'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Stoneheart Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 10 minutes ago, Le Cygne said: I think the show is horrible to men and women. But I certainly take exception to the assertion that they are catering to me as a feminist (which I and everyone I know personally thinks just means "women are people, too"). I hate the "women on top" thing, it's offensive. Truly offensive. And I don't think it's genuine at all. Agreed. It's like watching little boys play at 'Feminism'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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