[Spoilers] Criticize Without Repercussion

[Bayard]

18 hours ago, Mr Smith said:

Disagree. It's been established repeatedly by the show that the Dothraki follow strength. I think Dany provided a pretty emphatic show of strength by killing EVERY Khal, literally every leader they have.

You do understand that there are plenty of other people practicing magic in Essos, except Dany.... why don't they follow them?

[A bowl of brown]

Fireproof scene was horrendous. Brienne might have been worse.

Does dany have a goa'uld symbiote dragon in her? Would explain the fireproof and her being ok with pretending to be a god to get people to follow her. Plus Richard dean anderson popping up to shoot her in the head would be awesome and still not the stuidest thing to happen in the show.

[Kolx]

Are they making Greyworm and Missandei evil just so St Tyrion can look better? Anyway, Im so tired of the HS bs, he says that looking for your family is a sin and then takes her to her brother, do they really think that script was good? 

Will Dany ever have a good plot? 

[BookSnob4Ever]

I really need the next book. The show is just bad. 

 

What I hated:

Dany going all white savior again. Scene would've worked better with Drogon causing the fire. Also, I can see the Dothraki following Dany because of Drogon. Plus, what the heck was in that fire? Didn't know that sand was flammable. That's just a nitpick. 

Saint Tyrion. I cringe when a Tyrion scene comes on. He has the best plot armor and is getting other characters' stories. Tyrion is an interesting but unlikeable character in the books but on the TV, he's completely unbelievable. The masters asked the same questions I do every week. The writers gave him Ser Barristan's arc and now Dany's Mereen arc. 

And what happened to Dany fighting insanity like she does in the books? On TV, she's just smug and not too smart. 

The Wall. Jon is still whining after his resurrection. I hoped that there would be some character development or change. Brute Brienne looming over Melisandre and Davos. And why did it take Davos 5 episodes and who knows how many months in show time to ask Melisandre what happened to Stannis and Shireen? I really expected Davos to try and take out Melisandre end of last season. At least Edd is getting more lines.

Iron Islands. Kingsmoot should've happened no later than the third season. And Theon (Reek) would've never gone back in the books. The writers are making him the agent so that his sister becomes or attempts to become the King/Queen. 

The Vale. Just awful. I hope that Little Finger is not getting a redemption arc. He's better as a behind the scenes manipulator. Don't think so, I think that his immediate goal is become Warden of the North. I really miss Sansa's book arc.

KL. I keep waiting for mad Cersei but I don't see any progression. Probably she'll go from Carol to burning the Red Keep in one scene. And Jaime! Why not just kill off his character? His TV role is just... One of the arcs I most wanted to see from the books was his and Brienne's Riverlands arc. I love book Brienne and Jaime's redemption arc but the show doesn't even try.

What I loved:

Nothing

*****

The things that bother me the most is how the writers have greatly diminished the role of magic. This just is a historical drama with a few dragons and some ice zombies. While I watch the show I keep myself entertained by thinking how each scene would play out in the books.

[The Fattest Leech]

1 hour ago, Laughing Storm Reborn said:

logic in this show is right in the same place as d&d's quality writing, donal noye and stannis's battlefield scouts...

20 good men is all the show needs, and khaleesi showing the t's on fire backgrounds...

oh, does anyone know the porpuse of the dorne angle?? or is it too early to ask?

T's on bouncy ship backgrounds??? But probably still too early to ask. I mean, it took 5 or 6 episodes before anyone gave a shit about Shireen and Stannis.

[Swordfish]

19 hours ago, Simon Steele said:

Why even bring Osha back? She was great, but for this? We get it, Ramsay is awful, I don't even hate him anymore. He's just annoying. I'm glad Osha doesn't have to be part of this trainwreck. 

 

yeah, that was my reaction as well.  That's just wasted screen time.  It's utterly pointless.

[RoamingRonin]

1 hour ago, Free Northman Reborn said:

Did someone ask if the Show should be cancelled? Count me in the Yes camp. Without a doubt.

 

2 hours ago, The Prince of Porne said:

At this point, yes.

Lol, no. No it isn't.

You can always just stop watching. 

[Centrist Simon Steele]

1 hour ago, The Golden Wolf said:

Just thought of something, Carol says the Tyrells have the second largest army in Westeros...who the hell has the largest? Why did it take Mace and Olenna having to be told by carol of all fucking people to bring heir army into Kingslanding to get the Queen and the Heir of Highgarden (because we can't have full families around here) away from religious fanatics?

 

 

 

I don't know...the Eyrie? I have no clue. No one seems to have more than 12 soldiers at any given time. 

[Mr Smith]

1 hour ago, Bayard said:

You do understand that there are plenty of other people practicing magic in Essos, except Dany.... why don't they follow them?

How do the Dothraki know that? All they've known their whole lives is the Dothraki life. And it's not just about the magic, its about the fact that Dany challenged, and defeated, the men that were leading them. We've been given every reason to believe, given the Dothraki culture, that they would respond positively to that rather than negatively.

[SerJeremiahLouistark]

2 hours ago, The Golden Wolf said:

Just thought of something, Carol says the Tyrells have the second largest army in Westeros...who the hell has the largest? Why did it take Mace and Olenna having to be told by carol of all fucking people to bring heir army into Kingslanding to get the Queen and the Heir of Highgarden (because we can't have full families around here) away from religious fanatics?

 

 

 

Martells maybe?  The Vale?  The Vale and Dorne have for the most part avoided TWot5K and every war since. 

[RoamingRonin]

1 hour ago, Bayard said:

You do understand that there are plenty of other people practicing magic in Essos, except Dany.... why don't they follow them?

She's a khaleesi. She's one of them. 

[Jojosh]

Only issue I had was with Asha and Theon fighting over him coming back

Theon was broken in the show her anger makes sense since she tried to save him but are they just going to treat their father's death like an afterthought? 

No

Also I'm bored of KL and mereen politics

I see everyone is just like Dorne has been taken over by usurpers no big deal 

[Ser Desmond Wine's Bane]

10 hours ago, Arya, Queen of the North said:

If it aggravates you so much, why would you spend an hour watching it? It just baffles me. 

 

 

So, if the content of this thread aggravates so much, why read it?

People can watch what they want to watch, and take from it whatever they will. This thread serves a purpose. I don't agree with much of what gets posted, but it isn't a debate thread and it certainly isn't a thread for bashing the motivations of other users. 

[The Golden Wolf]

34 minutes ago, SerJeremiahLouistark said:

Martells maybe?  The Vale?  The Vale and Dorne have for the most part avoided TWot5K and every war since. 

Except Renly had 100K strong army 70K-80K of which was the Reach which has only had one major battle which was the Blackwater. The vale can field the same amount of troops the North can, 35K, and Dorne can only field 25K. The Reach outstrips both of them. was this them not realizing that there was an established number for how large an army the Tyrells can mobilize or do they not understand that Dorne which is mostly a desert and The Vale while having a very fertile valley is still mostly mountain cannot possibly mobilize more troops then the large and fertile Reach?

 

[Forlong the Fat]

2 hours ago, WSmith84 said:

As far as I recall, he didn't (for example) ask Mance (when he was a prisoner) if they maybe came across a crippled boy on their way South. Little details would help this show enormously.

Exactly.  The show would be much better if Jon broadcast far and wide that his crippled brother, the heir to Winterfell, who most people believed dead, was all alone north of the wall.

[SerJeremiahLouistark]

1 minute ago, The Golden Wolf said:

Except Renly had 100K strong army 70K-80K of which was the Reach which has only had one major battle which was the Blackwater. The vale can field the same amount of troops the North can, 35K, and Dorne can only field 25K. The Reach outstrips both of them. was this them not realizing that there was an established number for how large an army the Tyrells can mobilize or do they not understand that Dorne which is mostly a desert and The Vale while having a very fertile valley is still mostly mountain?

 

I was just spitballing I have no idea who the largest army belongs to.  

[Ser Desmond Wine's Bane]

6 minutes ago, SerJeremiahLouistark said:

I was just spitballing I have no idea who the largest army belongs to.  

Yeah the Dornish army is only capable of defensive/guerrilla tactics on its own. They excel at that. Its the reason Doran was was so focussed on maintaining power through political machinations.

The Vale are the most 'effective' and practiced due to their constant military efforts against the Hill Tribes. The Reach have numbers, wealth for good equipment and at least one highly effective military commander. 

[WSmith84]

5 minutes ago, Forlong the Fat said:

Exactly.  The show would be much better if Jon broadcast far and wide that his crippled brother, the heir to Winterfell, who most people believed dead, was all alone north of the wall.

Well, I wouldn't broadcast it, but Jon could at least ask the people who might have seen Bran, like Tormund and Mance.

[The Golden Wolf]

1 minute ago, Ser Desmond Wine's Bane said:

Yeah the Dornish army is only capable of defensive/guerrilla tactics on its own. They excel at that. Its the reason Doran was was so focussed on maintaining power through political machinations.

The Vale are the most 'effective' and practiced due to their constant military efforts against the Hill Tribes. The Reach have numbers, wealth for good equipment and at least one highly effective military commander. 

But this is the show...you don't think they would actually have Faullaria and the Sand Worms attacking Kingslanding at the head of a 50K Dornish army would they? 

[Forlong the Fat]

15 minutes ago, WSmith84 said:

Well, I wouldn't broadcast it, but Jon could at least ask the people who might have seen Bran, like Tormund and Mance.

I would probably keep it a secret, especially from people like Tormund and Mance.