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5 minutes ago, robasp2 said:

Yes...true

A very realistic script will show some factions in dothraki, not quite happy.

I would love to see them terrified with the arrival of Drogon.

But there is neither time or depth, hence I do not expect this.

I'll just picture that in my head. Lol.

I actually expect it to happen. I don't know if/think we will see Dany next episode, but Episode 6 is titled "Blood of My Blood" and I think some Dothraki might try to challenge her, and then Drogon will show up and completely terrify them, especially with him being 2x as big as last season.

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5 hours ago, robasp2 said:

Because her plot armor is SO THICK, all the 100000 cannot touch her..

Thats why. Simple.

No. Because people follow rules. the rules said she must go to this prison camp for widows. However the rules say that if you kill the Khal you become the Khal.  Give it a bit of time and some will start  to rebel, but if she keeps winning they will keep following. Quite how you explain to a load of nomad horsemen from a hot country you want them to go north and fight knights in the snow is another matter.

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I don't think they are supposed to fight the knights - Varys will fill her up on Aegon's intimidating tactics. She'll have to face Lannisters (if Faith doesn't finish them off before) and possibly Tyrells (though they are first to bow out of self-preservation). Iron Islands will probably ferry her to Westeros, so I doubt they will fight her. Dorn is unmentionable and it would be best if the Children of the Forest did them mercy and sunk the whole thing into the sea. And by the time Dany rolls into town WW will surely be at the gates, so North-Riverlands-Vale alliance would welcome Dany and her WW killing machines with open arms and promise of hot soup after the battle for the future of mankind ends. So I think those Dothraki's would serve to intimidate Tyrells by the virtue of numbers and be a cannon fodder for a battle with Lannisters - and for now there is not a snowflake to be seen either in Crownlands, Westerlands or ni Reach. Dothraki remain very usable there.

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I think we might be seeing some of that...I didn't parse through the season trailer too carefully but one shot seemed to show Drogon roasting some horses (or at least flying above threateningly).  I think one quick scene would suffice to show this play out.

In general, Dothraki on the show don't seem to be too sentimental about their leaders.  They follow strength and strength alone.

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I guess I started this post because it was made clear in Season 1 (and in the books) that if a Khal is killed, his bloodriders take his Khalessi to the Dosh Khaleen, then avenge his death and then sometimes even kill themselves in order to follow their Khal to the night lands. 

Unless all of the blood riders were killed in the fire, I don't think I could swallow the tv show glossing over this and seeing them kneel before the new "Khal/Dany" 

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On May 17, 2016 at 3:51 PM, GirlFriday said:

Does anyone think that the murdered Khals in Vaes Dothrak will have their blood riders avenge their deaths? 

The TV show does mention that they do this in Season 1 when Ser Jorah mentions it to Dany. Do you think the TV show will gloss over this? 

 

 

 

Perhaps they or others will try. But it would appear Dany has a lot of people to protect her now. 

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On 18. 5. 2016 at 0:45 PM, TheLastLibrarian said:

I'm sure that there is a dothraki rule stating that if you kill a khal so automatically you are the new one(I saw that in season 1 I think) so the boold riders will not attack you

That sir, is nonsence 

 

On 18. 5. 2016 at 1:09 PM, robasp2 said:

Because her plot armor is SO THICK, all the 100000 cannot touch her..

Thats why. Simple.

This ^

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On May 18, 2016 at 7:21 AM, Miss_Saffron said:

Also, I think that whole pyromaniac stunt was meant to show, that in Dothraki's eyes she is pretty much unstoppable and unkillable now. Many people bring up the fact, that they would consider her a witch and wouldn't follow her but try to kill her. But for all they know, she breathes fire or shoots it out of her hands - there's no point in attacking her. If she pulled it anywhere else, people might get scared enough to just run for the hills, but Dothraki have the power and ruthlessness fetish turned up to eleven, so they bowed down in awe instead.

Also - conservation of the plot and screen time. There's no point in showing attempt on her life that has zero chances of success. Though if she would be killed by a vengeance-driven Dothraki I would kinda love it. It would be Ned's execution level of WTF - more so, since there is not 1 but 5 seasons' worth of building her up as a major, end-game character. Offing her on the eve of the grand finale would be awesome. But it would also make all the Essos plot a giant, meaningless filler - so that's a downer. 

They called her a witch before she revealed she was previously Khal Drogo's khaleesi. She's one of them, a Dothraki by marriage. A member of the Dosh Khaleen (even if she didn't return as expected). That's why they kneeled. 

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1 hour ago, Jack Bauer 24 said:

She is fireproof and just killed all the Khals at one time. Why would they do anything but kneel? Are people really having a hard time understanding this? Yikes.

Lets say you are the president.

I invite you and your family and friends. Lets say I'm a superhero.

I cant do anything agressive, but I'm fireproof... (being fireproof nothing I can do if 10 ppl come at me) I torch the place and I live.

If I just walk outside your parents, girlfriends/wife, sons etc will be like "its caszh waterver. Come one you are my new hero"

Dafuq?

The thing is only if you see something as a threat to your life do passive people kneel.

A few brave will fight anyway. Only if the hero can kill or intimidate him will those also kneel....

Go back to Aegon. See how many blindly knelt at a much more terifying things.

So, How come YOU dont get it?

A dragon was necessary to intimidate them.

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On 5/18/2016 at 7:31 AM, SynthFG said:

The Bloodriders were in the hut standing behind the Khals and got slagged down with them 

The guys who may resist here rule are the Ko's who think they are strong enough to care out their own khalisar's 

 

only one per khal (7 khals and 7 bloodriders standing behind) in the widescreen shot of them just before she cooks their asses

 and khals typically have 3 each in the books, and the show's wiki has all three listed as reoccurring characters in season 1. however it only reveals the fate of qotho who is killed by jorah in episode 9

On 5/18/2016 at 11:24 AM, Salad Days Saan said:

"He was my Khal.  He was awesome.  He got outsmarted by a little white girl and burnt alive.  Fuck my Khal."

[Paraphrasing.]

:lmao:

On 5/18/2016 at 11:34 AM, GilletteMace said:

like all these overly masculine macho fools, the dothraki are cowardish chickens with no head and severe inferiority complex issues. once mommy dany takes over the lead, they will do whatever mommy tells them to. with her dragons she has the biggest dick anyway. thats all these primitive patriarchys need, superficial powersymbols. religious tricks also help with uneducated people. dany has found a fitting match with these fanatic imbeciles...

don't sugarcoat it so much...tell it plainly :lol:

On 5/18/2016 at 11:52 AM, robasp2 said:

Yes...true

A very realistic script will show some factions in dothraki, not quite happy.

I would love to see them terrified with the arrival of Drogon.

Bcause people just donot bow that easily. These crazy guys wont. But to save time, I guess it had to be done quickly.

But there is neither time or depth, hence I do not expect this.

I'll just picture that in my head. Lol.

well even if the dudes are not afraid, the horses certainly will be

On 5/18/2016 at 0:01 PM, WingedShadow said:

I actually expect it to happen. I don't know if/think we will see Dany next episode, but Episode 6 is titled "Blood of My Blood" and I think some Dothraki might try to challenge her, and then Drogon will show up and completely terrify them, especially with him being 2x as big as last season.

and easily eating whole horses now....

7 hours ago, GirlFriday said:

I guess I started this post because it was made clear in Season 1 (and in the books) that if a Khal is killed, his bloodriders take his Khalessi to the Dosh Khaleen, then avenge his death and then sometimes even kill themselves in order to follow their Khal to the night lands. 

Unless all of the blood riders were killed in the fire, I don't think I could swallow the tv show glossing over this and seeing them kneel before the new "Khal/Dany" 

i agree that the show should address this issue...this is a quote from the wiki of ice and fire

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Ancient traditions proclaim that when a khal dies, his bloodriders die with him. Should the khal die in battle, the bloodriders live only long enough to avenge him. Once done, the last service the bloodriders must perform is to escort the khaleesi to Vaes Dothrak to join the Dosh khaleen, and then they are to join their khal in death.[1] ~ GoT, Ch. 36, Daenerys II.

 

 

though my 2 active brain cells seem to recall drogo's bloodriders were all killed during the fight top stop her from trying to heal drogo with the magic

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8 minutes ago, Ruhail said:

You'd think so logically but nope

You haven't seen the next episode yet. 

2 hours ago, robasp2 said:

Lets say you are the president.

I invite you and your family and friends. Lets say I'm a superhero.

I cant do anything agressive, but I'm fireproof... (being fireproof nothing I can do if 10 ppl come at me) I torch the place and I live.

If I just walk outside your parents, girlfriends/wife, sons etc will be like "its caszh waterver. Come one you are my new hero"

Dafuq?

The thing is only if you see something as a threat to your life do passive people kneel.

A few brave will fight anyway. Only if the hero can kill or intimidate him will those also kneel....

Go back to Aegon. See how many blindly knelt at a much more terifying things.

So, How come YOU dont get it?

A dragon was necessary to intimidate them.

This doesn't make any sense.

There is no culture surrounding you as a "superhero".  You aren't in a village where widows of great warriors hold the most power. There is no prophecy about the Hero That Would Mount the World. 

The only apt example in this is Aegon... Torrhen Stark knelt rather than be burned, didn't he?  

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2 hours ago, robasp2 said:

Lets say you are the president.

I invite you and your family and friends. Lets say I'm a superhero.

I cant do anything agressive, but I'm fireproof... (being fireproof nothing I can do if 10 ppl come at me) I torch the place and I live.

If I just walk outside your parents, girlfriends/wife, sons etc will be like "its caszh waterver. Come one you are my new hero"

Dafuq?

The thing is only if you see something as a threat to your life do passive people kneel.

A few brave will fight anyway. Only if the hero can kill or intimidate him will those also kneel....

Go back to Aegon. See how many blindly knelt at a much more terifying things.

So, How come YOU dont get it?

A dragon was necessary to intimidate them.

This is just....please just stop. This makes no sense.

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3 hours ago, robasp2 said:

Lets say you are the president.

I invite you and your family and friends. Lets say I'm a superhero.

I cant do anything agressive, but I'm fireproof... (being fireproof nothing I can do if 10 ppl come at me) I torch the place and I live.

If I just walk outside your parents, girlfriends/wife, sons etc will be like "its caszh waterver. Come one you are my new hero"

Dafuq?

The thing is only if you see something as a threat to your life do passive people kneel.

A few brave will fight anyway. Only if the hero can kill or intimidate him will those also kneel....

Go back to Aegon. See how many blindly knelt at a much more terifying things.

So, How come YOU dont get it?

A dragon was necessary to intimidate them.

Mate, this is a valiant effort. It really is. 

But it's horrible lol. 

I think it's time to wave the white towel for you. 

It's not really that hard a concept to understand. 

She's fireproof, has dragons, and just killed all the khals - literally the only thing to do at that point, either through fear or adoration, is to kneel. It's ridiculously simple. 

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