Tooms Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Just now, Howdyphillip said: The Direwolves have been CGI since season 2 I believe... Some shots they're real, some they're not ... Still, a CGI Direwolf is still expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, Tooms said: It's more of a cost thing... Having those dogs on set is expensive. You need the trainer(s) as well as adhering to the laws surrounding the use of animals. Every time you see a Direwolf on screen, you know it's meaningful because of the effort required to film with the dogs. Well it's that and 99% of the wolves purpose in the books has been the Stark's warging into the wolves, but not knowing it. Bran's the only one who consciously did it. So they kept it for him. For everyone else, it's kind of hard to show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooms Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Anyone know what 3ER was showing Bran when it all went down at the end... What was the point of all that? Was it a young Ned being sent to the Vale? What was so important about that moment that 3ER had to show Bran? Or was it just that the 3ER knows what happened in the past, he knew Bran had to be there for it to go down? Argh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredwin Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Darkstream said: No, the fact the the direwolves have a significant meaning in the books is not a debatable stance. Their meaning has already been thoroughly established in book canon. Obviously they have a meaning man, geez, but how can you say that they play individualdly important roles? Strictly speaking they are mostly just used as a narrative device so that the Stark kids can experience things otherwise not possible. For instance Arya being able to see Westeros and to assumably be a vessel for Jon's soul. At the end of the day the show chose to cut most of the wolves(literally) so honestly, how important to the story are we talking here in terms of end game, etc.? Edited May 23, 2016 by Fredwin Autocorrect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor&Bran Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 And now we see that Bran when he "time travels" can change the past and future. What power he has!! And what will happen if he decides to change the past? How delicious. It's massive and unprecedented. But the Three Eyed Raven did say that Bran can change the past if only it doesn't effect the present outcomes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xi0 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Dragon_Rider said: Since you just saw the episode, it's already spoiled. What are you complaining about? You want no spoilers at all? Don't watch the show from the now on, as they're way ahead in most story arcs. And it's even more inane that you would bash them for revealing this in a segment called "Inside the Episode". Not only do you watch the episode, you watch a discussion about it by the writers. Then you complain about spoilers... I know what I've opted into, thanks. I just wish they didn't feel the need to volunteer privileged information that they're obviously privy to due to being responsible for adapting it to screen. I don't think something like that is an unreasonable request. They obviously don't care, which is unfortunate, that's all. Edited May 23, 2016 by xi0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudu42 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 4 minutes ago, Tooms said: Anyone know what 3ER was showing Bran when it all went down at the end... What was the point of all that? Was it a young Ned being sent to the Vale? What was so important about that moment that 3ER had to show Bran? Or was it just that the 3ER knows what happened in the past, he knew Bran had to be there for it to go down? Argh! I'm asking myself exactly that. All I saw was what I believe Richard talking to Ned. Why that momment holds such fundamental role I have no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstream Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Fredwin said: Obviously they have a meaning man, geez, but how can you say that they play individualdly important roles? Strictly speaking they are mostly just used as a narrative device so that the Stark kids can experience things otherwise not possible. For instance Arya being able to see Westeros and to assumably be a vessel for Jon's soul. At the end of the day the show chose to cut most of the wolves(literally) so honestly, how important to the story are we talking here in terms of end game, etc.? I fear, if you read the books and think that is all they are to the story, you've missed out on some of the most beautiful parts of the books. Edited May 23, 2016 by Darkstream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, Hodor&Bran said: And now we see that Bran when he "time travels" can change the past and future. What power he has!! And what will happen if he decides to change the past? How delicious. It's massive and unprecedented. But the Three Eyed Raven did say that Bran can change the past if only it doesn't effect the present outcomes? This kind of worries me because it sets up potential deus ex machina shit later on. But we know Hodor was Hodor before Bran actually changed the past. So maybe even if he changes it, it is pre written, and is already manifesting itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo Kressh Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 2 hours ago, Chloe.a.thomson said: THAT CLOSE UP Oh c'mon! That was the episode 5 dick joke. Hell, every episode so far has had one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooms Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Dudu42 said: I'm asking myself exactly that. All I saw was what I believe Richard talking to Ned. Why that momment holds such fundamental role I have no idea. Interesting, the Inside the Episode vid does shed some light on it ... Apparently the 3ER was "uploading" a tonne of info into Bran but Bran couldn't yet understand it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, Tooms said: Anyone know what 3ER was showing Bran when it all went down at the end... What was the point of all that? Was it a young Ned being sent to the Vale? What was so important about that moment that 3ER had to show Bran? Or was it just that the 3ER knows what happened in the past, he knew Bran had to be there for it to go down? Argh! I think it was just that the 3ER somehow knew the future, and knew that Bran needed to be near Hodor in the past so that he could be 'Hodor-ized.' I also think we haven't seen the last of the 3ER either. I think somehow Bran will continue to see him through the Greensight somehow; whatever the Greensight version of a Force Ghost is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieStone Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, xi0 said: I know what I've opted into, thanks. I just wish they didn't feel the need to volunteer privileged information that they're obviously privy to due to being responsible for adapting it to screen. I don't think something like that is an unreasonable request. They obviously don't care, which is unfortunate, that's all. I'm sorry, but I have to echo the sentiment of Dragon_Rider upthread. First, you're watching a show that has progressed beyond the books. And then you purposely watch a segment where the whole point is that the producers talk about how certain storylines came about. And you're complaining about being spoiled? I can't really fathom your rationale here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracarys Snow Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Tabarnak...There goes Summer. I really wish they stopped the puppy killing. I had a sense that something similar was going to happen to Hodor, but I didn't think it would be because he saw Bran. So...how is Meera going to protect and carry him around now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyedGhost Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, lancerman said: This kind of worries me because it sets up potential deus ex machina shit later on. But we know Hodor was Hodor before Bran actually changed the past. So maybe even if he changes it, it is pre written, and is already manifesting itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracarys Snow Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, lancerman said: This kind of worries me because it sets up potential deus ex machina shit later on. But we know Hodor was Hodor before Bran actually changed the past. So maybe even if he changes it, it is pre written, and is already manifesting itself. Perhaps he will manage to show up before the children create the WW, which would explain why they decided to protect him. Cause either way...they are extinct now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Just now, RedEyedGhost said: You're right. But I mean more the god like plot mechanism that can wipe away the stories problems. Not the out of nowhere part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xi0 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 1 minute ago, HokieStone said: I'm sorry, but I have to echo the sentiment of Dragon_Rider upthread. First, you're watching a show that has progressed beyond the books. And then you purposely watch a segment where the whole point is that the producers talk about how certain storylines came about. And you're complaining about being spoiled? I can't really fathom your rationale here. I didn't watch the segment, I read it here. My week isn't ruined or anything, I would just prefer if they avoided doing things like that. The curtain doesn't always have to be pulled back that far. I mean, GRRM shares enough of the blame for this situation in the first place, it isn't like I'm interested in bashing him or D&D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracarys Snow Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 59 minutes ago, Dudu42 said: Hodor and Summer... damn Except Hodor's death was meaningful, interesting and heartbreaking. Summer's death was bullshit. I envisioned the surviving Direwolves munching Ramsey alive when invading Winterfell. Only Ghost remains and there's absolute no news about Nymeria since the first season (bet she's sharing the boat with Gendry right now) Yes, that's what I pictured as well; intially Ghost, Shaggy and Summer. They better not kill off Ghost in the same fashion, cause...enough already. If they don't feel that they are important, just stop showing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticWeirwood Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Edd's line of “Don't knock it down while I’m gone” to Jon sure seems like that means he will, doesn’t it now? I wonder whether Edd will be at the top when that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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