King Ragnar

Lord Greatjon Umber

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So we just have to accept Smalljon Umber is the new Lord Umber? Nobody asks questions about the mysterious "I would've killed my father myself, if he hadn't died on his own"?

As we all know, Greatjon Umber wasn't present at the RW, so how could he have died?

I noticed nobody talked about this while I really liked Greatjon in the books. (Where he is still held prisoner in the Twins)

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Yeah, you make a point. He should still be alive in the show though, somewhere in some rotten dungeon.

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My heart won't let me believe that the Umbers would betray the Starks.  

I know Great North Conspiracies have been debunked, but it's just too much of a departure from the books.  GreatJohn is alive.  SmallJohn is playing a ruse, Rickon secretly rides unicorns.  All I know is that it's been too many episodes since we've had any 411 on winterfell.

 

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