Iskaral Pust Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 A decent game tonight. Not a goal fest but high tempo and lots of attacking play. Tough on Peru to go out on penalties but they were only in the game due to a handball goal in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 We're 5th!!!! /O/ Ok, comments: Turns out Guerrero asked to be the last to kick. I think he put so much pressure on the guys who didn't score and they fucked up. Sucks. But I'm not mad at Guerrero as I would. Penalties and not complementary time... mmm... I think that can work in places such as Ecuador or Brazil when you play in broad daylight and it's too hot. Here? I dunno, honestly. I would have wanted to see them play the compl. time. For what I've read, the tickets to the match sold quite quickly. I know FIFA has tried to make football popular since ever, but maybe this time they can consider to blend Concacaf and Conmebol for WC qualifiers? Considering the big Latino, specially from South-America, community in USA, having the chance to see Argentina or Brazil play at home is something I would highly consider, imo. Now, I know I said they fucked up, but many people here is very pleased. I am (despite I'm mad and disappointed: this is the first time since two Cups ago we won't be on the podium). This is a B-team* (the new names are around 19-22 and still play locally), Gareca was testing new people and new combinations (now we aren't going to Russia) and I think it worked. It's also important to know this is a relatively new era as the President of the Per. Federation who was sacked is going to jail. This is one of the reasons Gareca didn't call the always-present Pizarro. Gosh, I'm glad he's not there. He doesn't play bad (all the contrary) but FUCK. HIS. EGO. So, yeah, we're ok. Also, this: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClMkjygWQAAzU3q.jpg *Funny how people couldn't even be mad at Trauco failing the goal bc we don't even know who he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philokles Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Argentina - Venezuela was pretty enjoyable, although pretty dead by the second half. If only the Venezuelan hadn't Panenka'ed the penalty, as they were playing so well at the end of the first half and may have made it competitive with a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Yes, the A-V game was very good and V played very well for most of the game, despite the score line. Argentina just created more dangerous chances, and was a bit more clinical with most of them. V was lucky to be only 2-0 down after 30 minutes, but then desperately unlucky not to score before the break: a post, two good saves and a fluffed Panenka, and possibly another penalty not given (there were no replays shown). I'm very impressed by how well V plays together: the coordinated pressing, the interplay in possession, the bombing forward in transition -- that's a really well coached team. The ref was very soft on V though, not giving a penalty to Messi and withholding quite a few yellow cards. Argentina were well worth their win but V can hold their heads high after a good performance and a great tournament, and just a tinge of what-might-have-been if they had equalized before half time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Alexis was brilliant that first half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Incredible stuff by Chile. 6-0 now. Mexico has looked shell shocked throughout. They cannot cope with the press at all, and it looks like they gave up a while ago. Chile's pressing wasn't nearly so effective against Argentina, but sometimes in tournaments is all about peaking at the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 Just now, Immobile Buffon said: Incredible stuff by Chile. 6-0 now. Mexico has looked shell shocked throughout. They cannot cope with the press at all, and it looks like they gave up a while ago. Chile's pressing wasn't nearly so effective against Argentina, but sometimes in tournaments is all about peaking at the right time. Mexico has been highly overrated for this tournament. Beat Uruguay with the refs help, almost lost to Venezuela, just Jamaica was below them. Now they got what they deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 8 minutes ago, Korvín-Corvinus said: Mexico has been highly overrated for this tournament. Beat Uruguay with the refs help, almost lost to Venezuela, just Jamaica was below them. Now they got what they deserved. That's a bit harsh. They played a fantastic first half against Uruguay, who admittedly proved to be quite poor, and they had a great end-to-end game against a very capable Venezuela when they could have settled for a draw. The chopping and changing has hurt them, and Chichirito has been unimpressive, but they were still above median as an entertaining footballing side. They definitely found their ceiling tonight though. 7-0 now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 Just now, Immobile Buffon said: That's a bit harsh. They played a fantastic first half against Uruguay, who admittedly proved to be quite poor, and they had a great end-to-end game against a very capable Venezuela when they could have settled for a draw. The chopping and changing has hurt them, and Chichirito has been unimpressive, but they were still above median as an entertaining footballing side. They definitely found their ceiling tonight though. I suppose, but really not so different than Brazil at the WC. Sure USA is the host technically, but considering the crowds, Mexico could easily be considered having the advantage of a host nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch-MaesterPhilip Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 This match has been really tough to watch. It's a damn shame to see Mexico go out like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Several of Chile's players seem to routinely play better for country than club, e.g. Vargas, Medel, Jara, possibly others. And Sanchez and Vidal as the two big stars are just as good for country as club, which is pretty rare. This Bielsa system really suits them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterfell is Burning Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Great match by Chilermany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 I suddenly feel much better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philokles Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Wow. I did not see that coming at all. Pizzi seemed unable to replicate Bielsa and Sampaoli's system in the groups, and it looked like Mexico had taken over as the side that played as fluently as a club. I was expecting a routine Mexico win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wedge Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 I'm eager to watch the US take on Argentina tonight. I hope the US can at least keep it close and not get totally clowned by Messi, Aguero, and the vastly more talented Argentina side. Can the US keep it within a goal or two? They'll have to catch a lot of breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterOJ Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 I feel really positive about this match for some reason. I would love to see it finish 1-1 or something and then head to a shootout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 I think Guzan will have to play the best game of his life to keep the score low. And if Bradley can't get a ball right, the US will be spending most of their time around their own box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wedge Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 57 minutes ago, Korvín-Corvinus said: I think Guzan will have to play the best game of his life to keep the score low. The goal posts will also have to come up big. And the crossbar will have to be lights out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairparavel Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Things are going like you expected they might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teng Ai Hui Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 and that's why Guzan lost his starting job at Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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