dantares83 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 i mean if Cersei was still to be charged for incest, shouldn't her bro be accused of the same charge? make no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Phipps Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 2 hours ago, dantares83 said: i mean if Cersei was still to be charged for incest, shouldn't her bro be accused of the same charge? make no sense. It's harder to arrest Jaime than it is Cersei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tianzi Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 7 minutes ago, C.T. Phipps said: It's harder to arrest Jaime than it is Cersei. Still, HS was in a situation when he had about twenty good men enough armed people, they surrounded Jaime and HS declared they were not afraid to die. And there was something about the strength to overthrow an empire. And Jaime tossed a load of sins into his face. HS is a hypocrite. Or just a misogynist. Or correctly deduced that men like Jaime, Tommen or Mace don't call the shots here and women like Cersei, Marg and Olenna matter more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aedam Targaryen Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Jaime committed incest while a member of the Kingsguard, Cercei did it while married to a king, so they are SLIGHTLY different crimes. I'm sure the HS considers both of those as major sins... I'm just guessing he went after Cercei first, because she was married at the time. Basically, maybe marriage vows are a bigger deal than knightly vows? Another option: Cercei is closer to Tommen than Jaime is. Getting to Cercei gets him closer to Tommen. All of that being said, it only really explains why he'd want one twin more than the other... but it doesn't explain why he didn't just arrest them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarcho Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 It wasn't incest with Jaime she was imprisoned for, it was her sleeping with Lancel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yung Wulf Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, Anarcho said: It wasn't incest with Jaime she was imprisoned for, it was her sleeping with Lancel. This. If they were to arrest Jamie on charges of incest with Cersei, thus producing Tommen, then Tommen's claim to the throne would be negated and the High Sparrow would lose all control of the crown. He definitely knows, but isn't acting on it since he has Tommen in the palm of his hand... or so he/we think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TickTak7 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 If the High Sparrow's target is Cersei, then he knows that she is significantly weaker without her brother (and the Lannister army, presumably), around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli Stark Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 1 hour ago, The Yung Wulf said: This. If they were to arrest Jamie on charges of incest with Cersei, thus producing Tommen, then Tommen's claim to the throne would be negated and the High Sparrow would lose all control of the crown. He definitely knows, but isn't acting on it since he has Tommen in the palm of his hand... or so he/we think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantares83 Posted June 7, 2016 Author Share Posted June 7, 2016 23 hours ago, Anarcho said: It wasn't incest with Jaime she was imprisoned for, it was her sleeping with Lancel. no, that sin has already been 'atoned' for her walk of atonement her trial is for regicide and incest which apparently cannot be cleared by just doing a naked walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo Kressh Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 On 6/6/2016 at 11:37 AM, The Yung Wulf said: This. If they were to arrest Jamie on charges of incest with Cersei, thus producing Tommen, then Tommen's claim to the throne would be negated and the High Sparrow would lose all control of the crown. He definitely knows, but isn't acting on it since he has Tommen in the palm of his hand... or so he/we think. If that's the case then he's not the pious person he makes himself out to be, he's a hypocrite and hopefully he'll get what's coming to him for daring to play the game of thrones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yung Wulf Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 5 hours ago, Ludo Kressh said: If that's the case then he's not the pious person he makes himself out to be, he's a hypocrite and hopefully he'll get what's coming to him for daring to play the game of thrones. I think it's pretty evident from his facial expressions and overall demeanor throughout the show that he certainly isn't as pious as he claims to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbuehner Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 When did the Faith hold Jaime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPathera Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Technically, the Faith only arrested Cersei after Lancel confessed to his part in her crimes. Thus providing the Sparrows with a justification for imprisoning the Queen and putting her on trial for Incest; Adultery; High Treason; Treason; and Conspiring to murder King Robert. With Jamie, there's nothing concrete and they didn't have any ample opportunity to bother. Plus, apprehending Jamie isn't necessary. He's not the legendary fighter that he was now that he only has one hand and he can be arrested later if Cersei loses her trial by combat. (considering that most of her plans backfire badly, UnGregor's doomed to do the same, just watch) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tianzi Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 1 minute ago, LordPathera said: Technically, the Faith only arrested Cersei after Lancel confessed to his part in her crimes. Thus providing the Sparrows with a justification for imprisoning the Queen and putting her on trial for Incest; Adultery; High Treason; Treason; and Conspiring to murder King Robert. With Jamie, there's nothing concrete and they didn't have any ample opportunity to bother. Plus, apprehending Jamie isn't necessary. He's not the legendary fighter that he was now that he only has one hand and he can be arrested later if Cersei loses her trial by combat. (considering that most of her plans backfire badly, UnGregor's doomed to do the same, just watch) Didn't he recite a list of his sins to the High Sparrow's face a couple of episodes ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPathera Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Tianzi said: Didn't he recite a list of his sins to the High Sparrow's face a couple of episodes ago? He never confessed to Incest and cuckolding the King, that's the one that really matters. That's the charge that got Cersei arrested both in the show and in the books; that's what she's going into a Trial by Combat for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maid So Fair Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 HS is a raging hypocrite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Hyle Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 A better question is why is it taking so long to hold Cersei's trial? We've seen in other instances (both Tyrion's TbC's) that these things are organized and held quickly - a matter of days at the most. In this case, there's been enough time since her return to the Red Keep for: - Cersei growing her shorn scalp to a pixie cut, convincing the Tyrells to march on Baelor's Sept, the Dirty Sparrow to mindfuck Tommen and (seemingly Marg), then for Jamie to mobilize an army and march all the way to Riverrun. - Dany's been marched clear across the Dothraki Sea, and united the Khalasars. - The Ironborn have held their Kingsmoot and Yarsha/Theon have sailed all the way to Volantis - Jon's been resurrected, quit the NW, reunited with Sansa, rode to Bear Island, then Deepwood Motte, then to the "20 good men" camp in the general vicinity of Winterfell - Baelish has mobilized the Knights of the Vale and marched to Moat Cailin, then rode to Mole's Town, and is now back hangin out at Moat Cailin waiting for the 'please help me - love, Sansa' raven he knows is coming eventually (all before Jon/Sansa/Davos started out for Bear Island) - Arya's done some stick fighting and play watching and quitting - Sam and Gilly have sailed to the Reach, then rode to Hornhill with a baby that became a 2 year old All this and Cersei still doesn't even know who Frankenmountain's opponent will be or when the trial will be held? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Tiger Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 10 minutes ago, Ser Hyle said: A better question is why is it taking so long to hold Cersei's trial? Because reasons. Same reason women get punished for things like having sex and men arent, reasons. And if it wasnt clear, by reasons, I mean bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerMixalot Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Jamie admitted to Kin Slaying, but I guess that isn't a crime anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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