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Very good opening episode.  I just watched it last night.  I thought this thread would be much busier by now. 

First, I really liked the tone shift. It feels closer to S1.  In S2, the scenes with Ed and Peggy kept the same zany Midwest humor atop an emerging descent into grim violence out of their depth, but the scenes with the crime family were too serious, too portentous, and drifted from that sense of crime whimsily intersecting with politeness and common sense.  A lot of Fargo is really a comedy of manners, e.g. Ewan McGregor and side-kick having three different awkward conversations about money while maintaining the Midwest nice. 

And, harking back to S1, we have small-time sibling rivalry and resentment as initial catalyst for crime.  The manipulative parolee (what's her name?) was excellent.  Billy Bob Thornton was great in S1 and this time it feels like she and David Thewlis will (unrelated to each other) be the disrupter and the danger respectively. 

Pacing was good, humor restored, story was set up, characters all hit their marks, basically everything went well.  I'm excited for the rest of the season. 

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I wouldn't be surprised if the opening scene has no further connection to the story. The "This is based on a True Story" still gets me.. particularly with the dramatic music playing in the background.

Overall, the first episode kind of bored me. Mary Elizabeth Winstead was definitely the star of the episode.

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On 4/20/2017 at 6:46 AM, Nictarion said:

I'm pretty sure the opening scene will have a connection at some point. 

Two German references in the first episode in East Berlin and a German black market banker. I think there is definite potential for the opening scene to connect into the current plot, and there might be a WW2 link as well. 

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Season two's opening scene with the Native American actor from New Jersey waiting for Reagan to come shoot a scene about a different Sioux Falls massacre never really connected to the main story. I mean other than Reagan and Sioux Falls showing up later. But I never really grasped any thematic link between it and the rest of the season. 

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9 minutes ago, RumHam said:

Season two's opening scene with the Native American actor from New Jersey waiting for Reagan to come shoot a scene about a different Sioux Falls massacre never really connected to the main story. I mean other than Reagan and Sioux Falls showing up later. But I never really grasped any thematic link between it and the rest of the season. 

The thematic link was that the entire country at that point was pretty much waiting for Reagan to take over and change the economics, policies and overall perspective.

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1 hour ago, RumHam said:

 But I never really grasped any thematic link between it and the rest of the season. 

It spoke somewhat to Hanzee's character. And i do believe we see him right after the opening scene with the "chief".

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Just now, Winterfell is Burning said:

The thematic link was that the entire country at that point was pretty much waiting for Reagan to take over and change the economics, policies and overall perspective.

Ah ok. But did that really come through other than in that one episode where Lou escorted Reagan and spoke to him in the bathroom?

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There was a pretty strong link in the logic and phrasing used by David Thewlis.  The Stasi interrogator says something like "These other things are stories, we're not here to talk about stories", referring to rational counterfactual evidence, and then Thewlis says "We are not talking about a loan, we are talking about an investment" , even though the money was contractually only a loan.

In both cases, the menacing figure decides to ignore the counterfactual evidence and declare the Orwellian "truth", while the naif is nonplussed by the departure from rational argument.

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On 20/04/2017 at 9:03 AM, HelenaExMachina said:

 

Any U.K. Folks know when/where we can watch this? I only watched the first two seasons as they became available on Netflix. Wasn't sure if there was a channel showing it over here

Channel 4 had seasons 1 & 2 the day after they aired in America but unfortunately as best I can tell they haven't gone for 3

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"You got kids?" :) Great cameo

Interesting how they tied all of the bits together with MNSKY and Gloria being in another world, aka Hollywood.

Young Thaddeus seemed much too young in 1975 to be the Ennis that was killed in MN.

I was happy once it got back to Eden Valley, though. The setting is so important to the identity of Fargo.

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1 hour ago, Astromech said:

"You got kids?" :) Great cameo

Interesting how they tied all of the bits together with MNSKY and Gloria being in another world, aka Hollywood.

Young Thaddeus seemed much too young in 1975 to be the Ennis that was killed in MN.

I was happy once it got back to Eden Valley, though. The setting is so important to the identity of Fargo.

Never thought I'd see Mac and Nora Durst in a scene together. :lol:

Completely agree about the setting. It's like The Sopranos outside of NJ, or The Wire outside of Baltimore. Although the former did actually pull it off with a episode in Vegas, and the dream episodes set in California. 

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1 hour ago, Nictarion said:

Never thought I'd see Mac and Nora Durst in a scene together. :lol:

Completely agree about the setting. It's like The Sopranos outside of NJ, or The Wire outside of Baltimore. Although the former did actually pull it off with a episode in Vegas, and the dream episodes set in California. 

And I think Jimmy made a road trip to Cleveland in season five of The Wire.  

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2 hours ago, Nictarion said:

. Although the former did actually pull it off with a episode in Vegas, and the dream episodes set in California. 

Don't forget the awesome Italy episode. 

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