MakeWesterosGreatAgain Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 9 hours ago, Larence Snow said: Yeah, long way, if you go by the books standards. In the show you can apparently travel the Long Lake-Wall distance in one/two days (see Melisandre) The show isn't "24". Different scenes happen different time frames apart. A scene episodes apart in PLACE"A" could be days apart while scenes in back-to-back episodes in PLACE"B" might be weeks apart. I don't get why that's so hard to understand. The plot moves at the pace that's convenient for the show. Why show scenes of Mel riding a horse alone for days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Louis II (KLII) Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I hope it is not NW people. As many mentioned here it won't make any freaking sense. Some lords in the North or some inhabitants of Winterfell would be more reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xarkar Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 The wall doesnt make a lot of sense to me. So Ramsay knowing Jon is coming, (i think right?) sends men to the wall to capture and drag back the men? I would say sure if this happened last episode but now it seems odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinfoilToolate Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Aegonzo The Great said: Not sure about that... Shireen is still pretty fresh in my mind. I can see it being NW, but I do want to know how Ramsay could get to Castle Black and back so quickly. Seems like an awful lot of effort just to get under Jon's skin. Flaying is a lot of work to just to get under someone's skin. But if you enjoy what you do, you'll never "work" a day in your life. I havent seen or heard any mention that the people on the crosses are people the audience knows, so I havent put any importance on WHO it will be. I think its just Ramsay's usual flair for the dramatic and tradition. If it IS someones of importance, my guesses would be Umbers. Or Wildling/Mormont scouts. Its not Sansa, or Lyanna Mormont. Not Snow, Tormund, or Davos. I doubt it would be Osha, but it could be revealed that the Umbers used Osha as a possible assassination attempt, which is what prompts Ramsay to make such a display to make a point and warning to those who might try to betray him and his rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vontodwin Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 52 minutes ago, MakeWesterosGreatAgain said: The show isn't "24". Different scenes happen different time frames apart. A scene episodes apart in PLACE"A" could be days apart while scenes in back-to-back episodes in PLACE"B" might be weeks apart. I don't get why that's so hard to understand. The plot moves at the pace that's convenient for the show. Why show scenes of Mel riding a horse alone for days? Agreed. Also, Jon's been traveling around to different lords, so obviously there's been time passage. Why is it so ridiculous for Ramsay to have found out about their travel and attacked the Wall while they were gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montey13 Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 aside from the time lapses on the show ....like was said before ...it's logistically impossible for ramseys men to not get caught by Jons army on the way down ....and then get back in time and be fresh for a battle ....my hunch is that he flayed some stark loyalist ....Rickon can be used for far greater dramatic appeal than to just be burned ....the nights watch has the WW plot to contend with ....I doubt it's NW people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmug Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 The catch here is that apparently whoever's on these crosses are known characters to the audience. I think one of those people will be Lord Glover. Lyanna Mormont was seen with Jon & co. at their camp, I'd find it hard to believe one of them is her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeWesterosGreatAgain Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, montey13 said: aside from the time lapses on the show ....like was said before ...it's logistically impossible for ramseys men to not get caught by Jons army on the way down ....and then get back in time and be fresh for a battle ....my hunch is that he flayed some stark loyalist ....Rickon can be used for far greater dramatic appeal than to just be burned ....the nights watch has the WW plot to contend with ....I doubt it's NW people NW is down to like 50 men. North is a huge area and "20 good men" jokes aside, Ramsay could let 50 or so ride up to the watch basically undetected and ambush the NW who basically have no defenses anymore, especially with the Wildling threat not really a thing anymore. Jon has been traveling and we don't know the exact timing of when they're going around versus when theyre back at camp. That said, I don't think it's going to be NW members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montey13 Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I don't think it will be NW members either....they're story line is much juicier with the WW threat .....why just sacrafice them for no reason like they did summer and the BF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
med1 Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Something else to consider - the Stark's outlawed flaying in the North so it could be a slap in the face to Stark law and a type of "you're irrelevant now" type of action. I still think it's the remainder of the Night's Watch but there is the possibility that it's Ramsay being Ramsay and trolling Jon since this is their first meeting and he has no idea what to expect. To Ramsay Jon is just a bastard and he would have little to no reason to know all he has done. On the flip side, they do have a giant and I truly don't see how anyone, even a large group of men, could down a rampaging and armored up giant. Wun Wun could grab a god damn tree, swing it around and kill 100 men with a single swing. He could crush a shield wall line with a single stomp. The giant is a serious game changer. Not to mention Melisandre. She could turn those burning crosses back on the Bolton army and scorch them. I wonder if we will see her in action (finally) this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
of man and wolf Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 5 hours ago, Aegonzo The Great said: Not sure about that... Shireen is still pretty fresh in my mind. I can see it being NW, but I do want to know how Ramsay could get to Castle Black and back so quickly. Seems like an awful lot of effort just to get under Jon's skin. we havent seen ramsay is 5 episodes...he probably got them already off screen. Loads of stuff is being done off screen these days. 5 hours ago, Aegonzo The Great said: Not sure about that... Shireen is still pretty fresh in my mind. I can see it being NW, but I do want to know how Ramsay could get to Castle Black and back so quickly. Seems like an awful lot of effort just to get under Jon's skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke317 Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Known characters...??? The pickings are pretty slim... Could be Glover. Could be Edd and the Night's Watch. I'm expecting a scouting party that got captured. But what wildlings do we actually know? The other wildling leader that Tormund and Jon convinced to fight? I'm so sick of Mel (great actress though) that I haven't missed her at all. She'd be on the top of my Bolton cross wish list, burning banners and seeing Arya again be damned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubicante Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Although I know this isn't realistic, but then again it could be if Ramsay sent his 20 good men out to get the job done, I actually hope the following people are on the crosses just because I cannot stand their presence on the show anymore. 1. Tyrion (Tired of his scenes where he tries to be funny, and for replacing Barristan's role in Mereen) 2. Cersei (For D & D portraying her completely different than the character in the novels. She's too calm and reserved. They try to make her sympathetic, when she just really isn't, and this change has also destroyed Jaime's character) 3. Brienne (She's just a brute who never has a second thought about killing anyone) 4. Davos (Without Stannis, I just don't find him interesting. He's just kind of "there", moving the plot along and doing things other characters could and should be doing on their own) 5. Sansa (For D & D forcing her into Winterfell last year when there just plain and simply is no way you can possible justify her being there. And because of that decision, so many other parts of the story are suffering and trying to get around the stupidity of her being there. I also just don't like her attitude towards Jon). 6. Ellaria and the Sand Snakes. All four of them can burn on one cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightningbolton Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 The 20 good men were Z warriors led by Tian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjmarsh Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Let me just play-pretend in my mind for a second. After weeks of travel north of the wall. Avoiding detection from the Others, not lighting fires or cooking food. Bran and Friends finally make it to Castle Black. No horn sounds their arrival. Benny Soft Paws thinks it a bit weird. Gives it a shout "Hey, I'm Benny Soft Hands, I have Brandon Fucking Stark open the fucking door-bitch asses." No reply. He knocks, no reply. Says fuck it and gives up to the Blue King because no one is home. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daemonTheBlack Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 According to the Spanish spoiler guy, at least two are know characters. They could be Nights Watch yes. Thus Ramsay could fittingly contribute to the WW invasion. Or could just be Osha, Roose Bolton's dead bodies. Could be even Stannis' dead body. It could be linked to Davos loosing something dear (from the synopsis). Some production images show a smallish body on one cross. I thought it was Rickon, but new reports say he is killed in a different way. Hope its not the little Lady Mormont , since Davos seems fond of her. It could be Davos himself, if he goes to deliver terms to Ramsay. It could be other Northern Lords that refused to fight against the Starks (even though they refused to fight against Ramsay either) to intimidate the ones in the Stark army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgred Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 3 hours ago, daemonTheBlack said: According to the Spanish spoiler guy, at least two are know characters. They could be Nights Watch yes. Thus Ramsay could fittingly contribute to the WW invasion. Or could just be Osha, Roose Bolton's dead bodies. Could be even Stannis' dead body. It could be linked to Davos loosing something dear (from the synopsis). Some production images show a smallish body on one cross. I thought it was Rickon, but new reports say he is killed in a different way. Hope its not the little Lady Mormont , since Davos seems fond of her. It could be Davos himself, if he goes to deliver terms to Ramsay. It could be other Northern Lords that refused to fight against the Starks (even though they refused to fight against Ramsay either) to intimidate the ones in the Stark army. let it be anyone but not NW i still have hope in e10 synopis " the nigh twatch gathers" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conchobar Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I called it weeks back. It is Edd and the boys in the Watch. Ramsay's a bad bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalfxj Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Spoiler According to imdb the actor for Edd Tollett is in episode 10, so it hopefully isn't the NW. They have to meet with Ben in the last episode http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4283094/?ref_=tt_ep_nx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Tiger Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 48 minutes ago, gandalfxj said: Hide contents According to imdb the actor for Edd Tollett is in episode 10, so it hopefully isn't the NW. They have to meet with Ben in the last episode http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4283094/?ref_=tt_ep_nx Yeah and according to IMDB, Lady Stoneheart should have made a dozen appearances by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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