SchpaceLord Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Why was Ramsey killing his cavalry with archers? Couldn't Sansa have mentioned that LF was coming to Jon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuSeaworth Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Why wouldn't ramsay just shoot Jon if he can hit Rickon through the heart at that distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darndes Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I think he was more concerned about playing mind games with Jon. His arrogance got the better of him tonight, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkofWinterfell Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 That battle was epic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchpaceLord Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 the battle was epic but the tactics seemed stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeuva Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 10 minutes ago, StuSeaworth said: Why wouldn't ramsay just shoot Jon if he can hit Rickon through the heart at that distance. The point was to get Jon angry and have him charge, thereby forcing Jon's cavalry to charge. If he killed Jon, then Ramsay's forces would have to initiate, going into what could be a trap, or at best incurring heavy losses and having enemy cavalry gain the advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, SchpaceLord said: the battle was epic but the tactics seemed stupid Jon is a crappy battle commander if he let's another commander play him like that. Ramsey played himmlike a violin. It took riping off Tolkien to get him out of the jam he had created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Louis II (KLII) Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 23 minutes ago, SchpaceLord said: Why was Ramsey killing his cavalry with archers? Couldn't Sansa have mentioned that LF was coming to Jon? I don't think she knew when they will arrive.. or if they will ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Louis II (KLII) Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 15 minutes ago, SchpaceLord said: the battle was epic but the tactics seemed stupid Ramsey tactics were perfect. They did not account for the knights of the vale, which he has no idea of. He played Jon, since Jon is a terrible commander... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSerb Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 23 minutes ago, StuSeaworth said: Why wouldn't ramsay just shoot Jon if he can hit Rickon through the heart at that distance. The better question is why didn't he shoot him instead of finishing off Wun Wun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florina Laufeyson Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 minute ago, King Louis II (KLII) said: I don't think she knew when they will arrive.. or if they will ... Yeah she didnt hear an answer from LF, so she wasnt certain. What she was shouting at Jon about is hinting on waiting for an answer. She wanted some sure sign they would come. Its why she kept pushing to wait. But they showed up anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuSeaworth Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I hope that wasnt the main gate of Winterfell (even a half assed rebuilt one) that a giant just punched through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Louis II (KLII) Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, TheSerb said: The better question is why didn't he shoot him instead of finishing off Wun Wun? he would have died? it is not because you kill the leader by his back, that everybody will say, yes Sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeuva Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 11 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Jon is a crappy battle commander if he let's another commander play him like that. Ramsey played himmlike a violin. It took riping off Tolkien to get him out of the jam he had created. Yes, Sansa told him what would happen. She said Jon thought he was laying a trap, but Ramsay is the one who lays traps. Jon's plan was to get Ramsay angry, but Ramsay is the one who got Jon to act the way Jon was hoping Ramsay would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Edd of House Tollet Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Well, just I suspected, they made Jon look dumb and Ramsay the equivalent of Anibal Barca in Westeros That aside, I believe we can all agree that the whole scene was extremely well-done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Edd of House Tollet Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Poor Wun-Wun though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Louis II (KLII) Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, mykeuva said: Yes, Sansa told him what would happen. She said Jon thought he was laying a trap, but Ramsay is the one who lays traps. Jon's plan was to get Ramsay angry, but Ramsay is the one who got Jon to act the way Jon was hoping Ramsay would. You got it. It makes sense. John Snow is charismatic. But he realy "he knows nothing". He is almost an Anti Hero. A Bad Commander. But still he can gather people together and he is a good figther. Ramsey played Jonh's weakness and if wasn't for the Knights of the vale he woyld have succeeded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Edd of House Tollet Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 To make Jon look a little bit less dumb they could have made Sansa told him about the Vale Knights, that part is bugging me, she had no reason at all to not tell him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelborn Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 37 minutes ago, SchpaceLord said: Why was Ramsey killing his cavalry with archers? Couldn't Sansa have mentioned that LF was coming to Jon? I got that impression too. That would be such a Ramsey thing to do and would fit with what Jon had said earlier, that his men would fight for him, but he wouldn't fight for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Louis II (KLII) Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, King Edd of House Tollet said: Poor Wun-Wun though R.I.P. Wun Wun I will miss you more than Hodor. And don't take this lightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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