What does this mean for the glovers?

[House Mosse]

On 24/06/2016 at 4:31 AM, WolfOfWinter said:

Pretty much everyone rejected the Starks except Houses Mormont and Hornwood and some other minor house. I'm curious to see what they'll do with Karhold, Last Hearth and the Dreadfort. I'd give Least Hearth to Tormund who makes a better Umber than that bastard Smalljon did, but I'm not sure about the other two. 

Damn straight!

[Cas Stark]

11 hours ago, House Mosse said:

3 weeks ago, Sansa was not a Stark, she was a Bolton. Then Ramsay got his face eaten off. Now she is legitimately the head of House Stark, and she holds Winterfell. The Lady of Winterfell with a bastard son of Eddard Stark to lead her armies is an entirely different prospect than the female beggar Lord, in opposition to her Warden of the North husband and with a bastard Brother, that she was three weeks ago.

 

She's still a Bolton, she's the widow of Ramsay Bolton, no more the head of House Stark than she ever was, especially since her brother Bran is alive and her brother Rickon was alive until she helped get him killed by failing to reveal the Vale army at her disposal.

So, sorry I don't see any difference here except for the plot now demanding the North rise for the Starks.

[House Mosse]

8 hours ago, Cas Stark said:

She's still a Bolton, she's the widow of Ramsay Bolton, no more the head of House Stark than she ever was, especially since her brother Bran is alive and her brother Rickon was alive until she helped get him killed by failing to reveal the Vale army at her disposal.

So, sorry I don't see any difference here except for the plot now demanding the North rise for the Starks.

Last week, by virtue of Sansa's marriage to Ramsay, Ramsay was the rightful owner of Winterfell and the rightful holder of the associated Great Lordship of the North. Ramsay had inherited the position of Ned and Robb Stark. Now that Ramsay is dead and without an heir, it reverts to Sansa. Last week she was not the Lady of Winterfell. This week she is.

Everyone thinks Bran is dead, and Rickon is dead. Again, this week but not last week, and as far as everybody is aware, Sansa is the heir to and current holder of the Stark lands and titles. For practical purposes she could use either the Bolton or the Stark name. Stark seems more sensible.

The reason why first the Lannisters and then the Boltons wanted to marry her is because she is the heir to the North. They both stated it repeatedly. When Tywin Lannister says it it is probably true. By marrying her, Tyrion/Ramsay gains the Lordship of Winterfell, and their children inherit that position. Unmarried, as she is since Ramsay's death, Sansa holds the position.

Cersie Lannister is still referred to as Cersie Lannister and was able to inherit the position of Lady of the Rock despite having been married to Robert Baratheon before his death.

[Cas Stark]

Both Sansa and Jon know that Bran is alive.  Of course they've never spoken about it, just like she never mentioned to him that Arya is alive and Brienne never mentioned to her the 'man' was the Hound.  LMAO.  Bring on more Emmys.

[House Mosse]

1 minute ago, Cas Stark said:

Both Sansa and Jon know that Bran is alive.  Of course they've never spoken about it, just like she never mentioned to him that Arya is alive and Brienne never mentioned to her the 'man' was the Hound.  LMAO.  Bring on more Emmys.

That is true, in the show they both know that Bran is alive, or at least that Theon did not kill him. Technically, as the next in line and the senior family member present, that would make her Castellan, or acting head of the Stark family and holder of their titles in Bran's absence. Like when Robb was in Winterfell when Ned went south, or like Edmure when Hoster Tully was too sick to rule. That does weaken her authority significantly. Having said that, as far as EVERYONE ELSE knows, Sansa is the Lady of Winterfell (unless she tells them otherwise). In either case, the Starks are back in Winterfell and are the rightful holders of their titles and lands, and their usurping competitors, the Boltons, are dead. That gives them about 1000% more clout than they had before the Battle of the Bastards.

[Kytheros]

Bran is North of the Wall, and went beyond it a while ago. By any reasonable objective evaluation of his chances, Bran died beyond the Wall and they'll probably never find out what happened to him. And Jon would know that Bran's chances would've been slim even without the White Walkers and the wights being active. Remember, Bran's crippled, and his help was Hodor (mentally impaired), and the two scions of House Reed, neither of whom would have left the Neck before their trip to swear allegiance at Winterfell, both of whom are young - Meera is about Jon's age, and Jojen is younger - oh, and Summer, who lacks opposable thumbs.