mystickristoff Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 or are they small or maybe only slightly bigger than House Mormont only? Were they even part of the War of the Five Kings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Cactus Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Why have an army when you have a Brienne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelittledragonthatcould Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 They were most definitely part of the war of the Five Kings as they were prominent Renly supporters. "Do you think a few bolts of cloth will make you king?" "Tyrell swords will make me king. Rowan and Tarly and Caron will make me king, with axe and mace and warhammer. Tarth arrows and Penrose lances, Fossoway, Cuy, Mullendore, Estermont, Selmy, Hightower, Oakheart, Crane, Caswell, Blackbar, Morrigen, Beesbury, Shermer, Dunn, Footly . . . even House Florent, your own wife's brothers and uncles, they will make me king. All the chivalry of the south rides with me, and that is the least part of my power. My foot is coming behind, a hundred thousand swords and spears and pikes. And you will destroy me? With what, pray? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Vance II Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 I think they're a good deal bigger than the Mormonts. Not huge, but probably a decent size house. I'd say they could field a couple thousand men, maybe a few dozen knights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Since when is House Mormont small? Only if you compare them to the Hightowers or Manderlys. Anyway, Tarth is a middling house. Top ten Stormland Houses, but that's not saying much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sleeper Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 They did have a contigent sent to Renly, but apparently Brienne wasn't involved in their leadership. They were probably among the stormlander infantry that got left behind in Bittersbridge and got subsequently culled by Tarly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daena the Defiant Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 I guess it depends. We don't really now much about Tarth. It appears to be like a mini New Zealand, misty, with what might be great pasturelands for sheep, but its also somewhat mountainous, so I don't know if it's a agricultural producer. Is there a decent population there? Any sizable towns that might have a robust maritime commerce system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danelle Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 7 hours ago, Lord Cactus said: Why have an army when you have a Brienne? They needed a thousand soldiers. They had one woman. She was enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cragen Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Tarth were kings before they were subdued by Storm Kings, so it's safe to say that they are high lords, they have few smaller houses sworn to them. They have strong navy, in TWOIAF is said that Baratheon choose to Tarth for they navy center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoWesteros Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 16 minutes ago, Cragen said: Tarth were kings before they were subdued by Storm Kings, so it's safe to say that they are high lords, they have few smaller houses sworn to them. They have strong navy, in TWOIAF is said that Baratheon choose to Tarth for they navy center. They do? Wiki doesn't say anything. That's new info to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cragen Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 6 minutes ago, GoWesteros said: They do? Wiki doesn't say anything. That's new info to me. It's my take from little we have about Tarth in TWOIAF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Redwyne Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Tarths aren't as powerful as reach houses like hightower, redwyne or tarly, but they are still quite strong by stormlands standard. Their island is bigger than greenstone, so they may be even stronger than estermonts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rise Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Paxter Redwyne said: Tarths aren't as powerful as reach houses like hightower, redwyne or tarly, but they are still quite strong by stormlands standard. Their island is bigger than greenstone, so they may be even stronger than estermonts. Well several houses are weak if you compare them to Hightowers or Redwyne. Tarlys are bit problematic since we don't how strong they are compared to another houses in the reach. Most likely they are average second tier lords. Not superpowerfully, but not weak either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annarkie Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 According to Arianne I in the Winds sample chapters, Tarth may have fallen to Connington & co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairGrowsBack Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 11 hours ago, Annarkie said: According to Arianne I in the Winds sample chapters, Tarth may have fallen to Connington & co. It's also implied in ADWD...though I have this theory that Papa Tarth is secretly a Targ supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor de la Tormenta Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 If there were Tarths men in Renlys camp, the "who bangs brienne" wouldnt had played as it did. I take renlys quote as a bluff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ McLannister Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 I thought it was mentioned somewhere that they sent some men, but not many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOVMO Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 On 6/21/2016 at 11:48 PM, thelittledragonthatcould said: They were most definitely part of the war of the Five Kings as they were prominent Renly supporters. I do not think this is true. I think that they stayed neutral in the W5K and that Brienne left to support renly was a source of contention between her and Selwyn. Selwyn refused Stannis (through Davos) and never joined forces with Renly. Since he is sworn to Storm's End that is odd. The fact that GRRM confirms that Dunk is an ancestor of Brienne (and of Selwyn) the question arises as to whom Dunk had a child with (a child that would be the parent of Selwyn and grandparent of Brienne). The most likely would be one of Aegon's two sisters, I forget which, which might mean that the Evenstar is holding onto Targaryen loyalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOVMO Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 4 hours ago, HairGrowsBack said: It's also implied in ADWD...though I have this theory that Papa Tarth is secretly a Targ supporter. I don't think it is so secret now that GRRM has put Dunk as the grandfather of Brienne possibly by a Targ princess. Selwyn can very well be half targ himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairGrowsBack Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 41 minutes ago, YOVMO said: I don't think it is so secret now that GRRM has put Dunk as the grandfather of Brienne possibly by a Targ princess. Selwyn can very well be half targ himself. Well...secret in-universe, I mean, they don't seem to be particularly well-known for being fervently pro-Targ or anything. But then, House Tarth is shrouded in mystery.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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