Ruhail Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 9 minutes ago, Cas Stark said: The Reeds could have given their oath, too. That could have been a great moment, mysterious, dropping a hint to the audience. Instead we got the knife at Osha's throat. We could have had lord Wyman give us hope again but oh no olly 2.0 had to steal his scene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wull Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 It's pretty clear that they aren't fans of the series. I feel like that was George's biggest mistake - giving control over to people who loved the spectacle of it all, but not necessarily the world. Hard to blame him, though, when S1 was really quite good and nobody could have guessed what it has turned into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knight in Motley Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 12 hours ago, A Ghost of Someone said: Yeah, with the off season spoilers, I expected when the Sept to Blow with Wildfire for it to spread to the whole city as Wildfire is like GreekFire. As for them having to use infographics, it does not surprise me as these guys failed in the original pilot that had to be scrapped, to show they audience that Jaime and Cersei were brother and sister. I expected the entire city burning to be the reason Tommen jumps, even perhaps jumping when the castle caught fire. Nope, He jumped because he was never going to get to spread Margery ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cas Stark Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, The Wull said: It's pretty clear that they aren't fans of the series. I feel like that was George's biggest mistake - giving control over to people who loved the spectacle of it all, but not necessarily the world. Hard to blame him, though, when S1 was really quite good and nobody could have guessed what it has turned into. Yeah, that was when I had my GOT epiphany...reading what they said about the RW....and seeing how they handled the lead up in season 3, I realized what they saw and what I saw were not the same. They saw spectacle, twist, violence and Top 10 lists foreva. Still, it's a mystery how the show has become so unbelievably lazy and sloppy. Season 1 was great, and 2, is to me, vastly underrated, the Greyjoys were good, all of Arya's stuff was very good, the KL stuff was good. The show was still very good and not sloppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Winged Wolf Bran Stark Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 3 hours ago, kissdbyfire said: I was thinking exactly the same thing. Was even rolling my eyes in advance at what I thought would be another OMG DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING YouTube Moment when the 3rd installment of the reveal graced our screens. But... no. That's it, folks! It's truly appalling how much they suck at it, really. Let's see... what were the BIG moments this year in terms of advancing the story and characters and of mysteries solved? 1. Jon's resurrection - awful pacing, underwhelming, boring 2. The Cats of the Forest created the WWs - awful pacing, underwhelming as fuck, boring 3. Jon's parentage - awful pacing, underwhelming, boring And don't forget "had no impact on the plot or the characters whatsoever" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Cygne Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Cas Stark said: The Reeds could have given their oath, too. That could have been a great moment, mysterious, dropping a hint to the audience. Instead we got the knife at Osha's throat. I hated that. I wish they had just said she died of a cold on the way. We already knew Ramsay was evil, did that have to be her last moment alive? That's just nasty. I loved her in the role, too. GRRM said he's going to write more for her because he loved her in the role, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Knows Nothing Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 On 6/26/2016 at 8:38 PM, Ser Quork said: I can't believe Tommen's death went for nothing. Even Cersei's didn't care! I know she cared more about her daughter's death than she did about Tommen's. What's up with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Sparrow Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 9 hours ago, Ruhail said: So how ever will S7 top the finger up the arse scene? I mean once you go anal theres no going back right? Two fingers up one arse. How else? You ask a simple question, you get a simple answer. Then again, the so called show-runners are simpletons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fattest Leech Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, Low Sparrow said: Two fingers up one arse. How else? You ask a simple question, you get a simple answer. Then again, the so called show-runners are simpletons. oh my gods. I just died. I am literally dead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Quork Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 8 hours ago, kissdbyfire said: I was thinking exactly the same thing. Was even rolling my eyes in advance at what I thought would be another OMG DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING YouTube Moment when the 3rd installment of the reveal graced our screens. But... no. That's it, folks! It's truly appalling how much they suck at it, really. Let's see... what were the BIG moments this year in terms of advancing the story and characters and of mysteries solved? 1. Jon's resurrection - awful pacing, underwhelming, boring 2. The Cats of the Forest created the WWs - awful pacing, underwhelming as fuck, boring 3. Jon's parentage - awful pacing, underwhelming, boring It's a crying shame. I watched 1. with growing incredulity that it could be just THAT boring and THAT illogical. Davos, why are you there and why have you suggested resurrecting Jon - just what the hell is this plot? And then, when Jon does come back from the dead, they have him in this weird, shy sitting position with his knee to shield his genitals from show. Just leave his underclothes on so it doesn't look so contorted! I just ... gaaaaaaah! And, yes, 2 & 3, gone for nothing - again. Just useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstream Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Exclusive footage, detailing the whereabouts of Gendry! https://youtu.be/mDvorBLBECQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMario Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 13 hours ago, kissdbyfire said: I was thinking exactly the same thing. Was even rolling my eyes in advance at what I thought would be another OMG DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING YouTube Moment when the 3rd installment of the reveal graced our screens. But... no. That's it, folks! It's truly appalling how much they suck at it, really. Let's see... what were the BIG moments this year in terms of advancing the story and characters and of mysteries solved? 1. Jon's resurrection - awful pacing, underwhelming, boring 2. The Cats of the Forest created the WWs - awful pacing, underwhelming as fuck, boring 3. Jon's parentage - awful pacing, underwhelming, boring And what's sad but also goes along with your point about it being underwhelming is that most of the fans will not even remember 2. 1 is already in the past, so no one cares. I bet if you ask most people what the biggest reveal of season 6 was, overwhelmingly the answer would be Hold the Door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GravyFace Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 11 hours ago, The Knight in Motley said: I expected the entire city burning to be the reason Tommen jumps, even perhaps jumping when the castle caught fire. Nope, He jumped because he was never going to get to spread Margery ever again. He jumped because he realized what his mother just did. Not necessarily because of Margery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knight in Motley Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 9 minutes ago, GravyFace said: He jumped because he realized what his mother just did. Not necessarily because of Margery. I'd argue that in reality, he jumped because they were cleaning house and wanted his character out of the way. The show itself gives us no reason for why he did it, only conjecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMario Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, The Knight in Motley said: I'd argue that in reality, he jumped because they were cleaning house and wanted his character out of the way. The show itself gives us no reason for why he did it, only conjecture. Agree. They wanted to crown Queen Cersenobite, and Tommen was in the way of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 12 minutes ago, SuperMario said: Agree. They wanted to crown Queen Cersenobite, and Tommen was in the way of that. Yup, I agree. Long live queen Cersenobite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fattest Leech Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said: Yup, I agree. Long live queen Cersenobite! Long live queen Cersenobite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fattest Leech Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 33 minutes ago, GravyFace said: He jumped because he realized what his mother just did. Not necessarily because of Margery. See. That where the magic went in the story. The magic D&D gave us in guessing what the hell what this characters motivation or point or current personality. Its magical that we are all interpreting so many events differently because I would have guessed Tommen jumped because he thought the death of 1,000 was somehow his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince of the North Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 2 hours ago, The Knight in Motley said: I'd argue that in reality, he jumped because they were cleaning house and wanted his character out of the way. The show itself gives us no reason for why he did it, only conjecture. Yep. It sure looked as if Tommen jumped because of Margaery dying due to the fact that he jumped immediately after presumably being informed of it. I say presumably because the only thing we see/hear the servant say to Tommen is "I'm so sorry". Sorry about what? Presumably, Margaery's death That's just some more excellent storytelling right there! I mean, who cares about conveying a character's motivation for doing something to the audience when you're only concerned with CHEAP EMOTIONAL MANIPULATION and SHOCK, amirite?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMario Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 11 minutes ago, Prince of the North said: Yep. It sure looked as if Tommen jumped because of Margaery dying due to the fact that he jumped immediately after presumably being informed of it. I say presumably because the only thing we see/hear the servant say to Tommen is "I'm so sorry". Sorry about what? Presumably, Margaery's death That's just some more excellent storytelling right there! I mean, who cares about conveying a character's motivation for doing something to the audience when you're only concerned with CHEAP EMOTIONAL MANIPULATION and SHOCK, amirite?!! Maybe, he was just trying to get out of the room. Franken Gregor had locked him in, and he was trying to get out to save Marge. Maybe he thought that if Theon and Sansa can survive a multiple story jump, so could he. That's the beauty of D&D storytelling. They just leave so many good options! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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