StoneyTargaryen Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 So this is what I heard/saw in the whisper at the Tower of Joy: “his name is” and "Robert will kill him if he finds out, you know he will, you have to protect him" I think she revealed the baby to be a legitimate royal child by calling him [insert opinions here] Targaryen. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgain Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Get the lip readers on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGP Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I've dissected it any times already. Whatever the full name is, it definitely started with the Ae____, typical to Targaryen type. You can't name the Prince That Was Promised anything other than Aegon, I figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Edd of House Tollet Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 AND HIS NOME IS JOHN CENAAAA Sorry, I couldn't resist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Smuggler Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 we need the lip readers nao! i didn't pick up the name thing.. good eyes/ears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneyTargaryen Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 7 minutes ago, JEORDHl said: I've dissected it any times already. Whatever the full name is, it definitely started with the Ae____, typical to Targaryen type. You can't name the Prince That Was Promised anything other than Aegon, I figure. That's what I thought too.. but was the real Aegon was still alive at the time? Or if not, I don't think Lyanna could have known that. Or maybe she did it as tribute and for the prophecy. I'm not sure. I like to idea of Aemon.. or something like Aeghar maybe? Too close to Rhaegar, I think. So much time to guess, lol. 6 minutes ago, King Edd of House Tollet said: AND HIS NOME IS JOHN CENAAAA Sorry, I couldn't resist Rofl! 9 minutes ago, Morgain said: Get the lip readers on it. Trying.. surprised they haven't already deciphered it. When Sansa wrore that lette, I saw the "summary" online almost immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockjaw of House Boltagon Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 11 minutes ago, JEORDHl said: I've dissected it any times already. Whatever the full name is, it definitely started with the Ae____, typical to Targaryen type. You can't name the Prince That Was Promised anything other than Aegon, I figure. Joaen Targaryen. Mystery solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGP Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, StoneyTargaryen said: That's what I thought too.. but was the real Aegon was still alive at the time? Or if not, I don't think Lyanna could have known that. Or maybe she did it as tribute and for the prophecy. I'm not sure. I like to idea of Aemon.. or something like Aeghar maybe? Too close to Rhaegar, I think. So much time to guess, lol. That's a good point, actually. Elia and her children by Rhaegar were definitely still alive at that point. And while it may be projecting given how little text there is [about Lyanna's intrinsic character as an individual] it's hard to imagine she would further disrespect Elia by appropriating the name as well. Definitely started with an Ae though. Aeddard maybe, hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmug Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 13 minutes ago, JEORDHl said: I've dissected it any times already. Whatever the full name is, it definitely started with the Ae____, typical to Targaryen type. You can't name the Prince That Was Promised anything other than Aegon, I figure. "His name is Aejon Targaryen", Lyanna "I'll just call him Jon", Ned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marada78 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Aemon would be nice, but it sounded more like something new for house Targaryen, something like Aewon. Not Aegon for sure, lips doesn't unite after a g. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Onion Knight Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 She was saying the name of the father...Ae = Aegon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Matthis Light Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, JEORDHl said: I've dissected it any times already. Whatever the full name is, it definitely started with the Ae____, typical to Targaryen type. You can't name the Prince That Was Promised anything other than Aegon, I figure. Aemon? Aemond? I doubt Rhaegar would name both his sons Aegon 4 minutes ago, King Edd of House Tollet said: AND HIS NOME IS JOHN CENAAAA Sorry, I couldn't resist Before any comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Edd of House Tollet Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Damn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneyTargaryen Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 4 minutes ago, JEORDHl said: That's a good point, actually. Elia and her children by Rhaegar were definitely still alive at that point. And while it may be projecting given how little text there is [about Lyanna's intrinsic character as an individual] it's hard to imagine she would further disrespect Elia by appropriating the name as well. Definitely started with an Ae though. Aeddard maybe, hahaha Omg, please. One further.. Raeddard. Haha 4 minutes ago, tmug said: "His name is Aejon Targaryen", Lyanna "I'll just call him Jon", Ned Hahah, Ned keeps it simple. 3 minutes ago, Marada78 said: Aemon would be nice, but is sounded more like something new for house Targaryen, something like Aewon Ae-be-wan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marada78 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 7 minutes ago, Lyin' Ned said: Joaen Targaryen. Mystery solved. OR......AEJON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Matthis Light Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 8 minutes ago, JEORDHl said: That's a good point, actually. Elia and her children by Rhaegar were definitely still alive at that point. And while it may be projecting given how little text there is [about Lyanna's intrinsic character as an individual] it's hard to imagine she would further disrespect Elia by appropriating the name as well. Definitely started with an Ae though. Aeddard maybe, hahaha By the time Ned got to the ToJ Jon was just born and, Elia and her children were already dead, right? I remember Ned called their deaths murder, Robert said he was cool with it, they argue, and Ned heads south to deal with the Tyrells and find Lyanna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGP Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Just now, Sir Matthis Light said: By the time Ned got to the ToJ, Elia and her children were already dead, right? I remember Ned called their deaths murder, Robert said he was cool with it, they argue, and Ned heads south to deal with the Tyrells and find Lyanna. You might have me there. I'm wracking my brain trying to put the timeline together. The Kingsguard at the ToJ mentioned their misery at not being at the Battle of the Trident so Rhaegar was already dead. But had the Lannisters moved on Kings Landing by or before Ned got the ToJ? I honestly have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneyTargaryen Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 1 minute ago, Sir Matthis Light said: By the time Ned got to the ToJ, Elia and her children were already dead, right? I remember Ned called their deaths murder, Robert said he was cool with it, they argue, and Ned heads south to deal with the Tyrells and find Lyanna. That's true. They were dead by the time Ned got there. But how much of that could Lyanna have known prior to his arrival? They didn't seem to have the time to have talked about it when he found her and for her to have then decided on the name right there after hearing the news. Felt like she had picked it before Ned arrived. But it's possible. What are everyone's thoughts on his legitimacy? I think there's no way they weren't married.. I don't see them having a reason to hide her saying "his name is X Snow/Sand" if hes a bastard, as it still fits with part of what we already knew of Jon Snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnar of Skagos Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 His name being Aemon would be fitting, seeing as Rhaegar's frequent correspondence with Maester Aemon, and the good relationship between Jon and Maester Aemon. I could see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Matthis Light Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 1 minute ago, JEORDHl said: You might have me there. I'm wracking my brain trying to put the timeline together. The Kingsguard at the ToJ mentioned their misery at not being at the Battle of the Trident so Rhaegar was already dead. But had the Lannisters moved on Kings Landing by or before Ned got the ToJ? I honestly have no idea. Same here lol. You might be right but if IIRC, After the battle on the Trident Robert was wounded after his duel with Rhaegar, so he sent Ned to ahead to King's Landing. Then got to KL but the Lannister beat him to it, Robert caught up and he was presented with the bodies of Elia and her children. Then Ned and Robert argue over if their deaths were right or wrong, Robert didn't care and Ned heads out in a blind rage to deal with Tyrells and find Lyanna. Atleast thats wwhat I remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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