C.T. Phipps Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 So, why do you think Tommen did it? For me, it was a sacrifice rather than a suicide. Albeit, one for pure spite. Tommen would be a slave to his mother for the rest of his life so the only way to spite her victory was to kill himself. It wasn't an act of despair but defiance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeIAF Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 An act of despair more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Despair. The boy has been torn in different directions his entire life. His father neglected him, his brother bullied him, and his mother is who she is. He never found a sense of self and was little more than a crowned pawn to virtually everyone. He wasn't the strongest person, but he wasn't a bad kid at all. Had be been surrounded by better people he likely would've turned out alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Phipps Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 6 minutes ago, GeorgeIAF said: An act of despair more likely. The two aren't necessarily unrelateed. He had to destroy his mother somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Yorick Ampersand Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 It was the funniest scene in the hole season. I couldn't stop laughing. He even took off the crown before he jumped. Hillarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodrigobraganca Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 33 minutes ago, C.T. Phipps said: The two aren't necessarily unrelateed. He had to destroy his mother somehow. I don't think tommen got that far in his thinking about the situation of the realm because of his mother's actions. And if he did think that, surely his death would just make her even crazier that she is already. His death didn't stop his mother, just gave her direct power. I do believe that was pure desperation to see his wife, whom he loved, killed by his mother. See the alliances he was starting to built been destroy. And that was just the trigger. As was said, he suffer he whole life. A boy to soft to be king in this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princess_snow Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Lord Lannister said: Despair. The boy has been torn in different directions his entire life. His father neglected him, his brother bullied him, and his mother is who she is. He never found a sense of self and was little more than a crowned pawn to virtually everyone. He wasn't the strongest person, but he wasn't a bad kid at all. Had be been surrounded by better people he likely would've turned out alright. This. Its how I see it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterPool Stark Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 2 hours ago, C.T. Phipps said: So, why do you think Tommen did it? For me, it was a sacrifice rather than a suicide. Albeit, one for pure spite. Tommen would be a slave to his mother for the rest of his life so the only way to spite her victory was to kill himself. It wasn't an act of despair but defiance. He was trying to raise Dragons from beneath The Red Keep. It is known Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasterlyBrick Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 He nailed the King's Landing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ice Wolf of Loki Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 He had heard from Robin Arryn about how great a Moon Door was when you feeling a little down and improvised. Unfortunately Tommen didn't hear the bit that you throw other people out not yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Phipps Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 Ultimately, I think Tommen made the hard choice and did the only move he could. He was never going to be a Lannister and died a Baratheon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adiman83 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 IMO it was grief and a bit of guilt. Despite of him buying the High Sparrow's religious propaganda, he really did love Margaery and now she's dead. Partly because of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Null Infinity Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Love, in the show, I can see that he loved Marg with passion, he can't live without her (Romeo and Juliet?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor's Aunt Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 He died a king. If he would lived the other houses would have stripped him of his titles (and his life) anyway. The mother of thornes will sent her army soon enough and there is no Tywin to stop them this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spivo Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 The only thing he had left in life was his mother, who had just taken the two things he loved from him, and at the same time shown herself as a monster. He knew she was not a "good" person, but this last act left him no doubt she was truly evil to the core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kytheros Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 It is also remotely possible that he thought that Cersei might have been in the Sept of Baelor when it got blown up too. That certainly wouldn't've helped matters any. Unlikely, admittedly, especially with the Franken-Mountain keeping him in his rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumy Stark Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 7 hours ago, C.T. Phipps said: So, why do you think Tommen did it? For me, it was a sacrifice rather than a suicide. Albeit, one for pure spite. Tommen would be a slave to his mother for the rest of his life so the only way to spite her victory was to kill himself. It wasn't an act of despair but defiance. I think it was both. He loved Margery, and while I'm not 100% sure he was really sold on The Faith, he did just watch pretty much everything he cared about, everything he'd built blow up in his face. And he knew his mother did it and that he had absolutely no control. So spite and despair all at once, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apathetic Onlooker Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 5 hours ago, Ser Yorick Ampersand said: It was the funniest scene in the hole season. I couldn't stop laughing. He even took off the crown before he jumped. Hillarious. This. I was laughing like an idiot. Seriously, the way it was filmed and acted wasn't done in a fashion that you could see any emotion or feel pity and remorse for this character. It's just: Here's a window. Here's the king flying out the window. The only way they could have made it funnier is if they had him do a flip or scream "CANNONBALL!!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyAlisande Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Not despair so much as a complete and total inability to cope with what just happened, and the realization that it was his fault for being such a weak and crappy king. I thought is was powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Stuart Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/69093827.jpg sums it up pretty well I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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