Debra Morgan Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 It is interesting for me is the romance between aunt/uncle and nephew/neice considered as incest for people in Westeros (not Targaryens)? Is it normal for them or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ McLannister Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 It's not normal. The degree of consanguinity (3) falls between siblings (2) and first cousins (4). We know that First Cousin marriage is not unusual in Westeros, so aunt-nephew marriages probably are not anathema, but may not be encouraged either. I don't know of any examples. I looked, but we don't have enough family trees. At some point people were under the impression that Rickard Stark's wife was his aunt, but she was actually a 1st cousin once removed (5). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Yeah I don't think it's as acceptable. I think uncles can marry a niece but not an aunt and nephew(we haven't heard of this type of union before) Plus who the hell would want to marry their aunt or nephew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ McLannister Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 1 minute ago, The Wolves said: Plus who the hell would want to marry their aunt or nephew. Someone whose aunt or nephew has a claim to something. Or someone whose aunt or nephew can protect them. Or, I suppose, someone with a really attractive aunt or nephew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chandl34 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Well, these are an aunt and nephew who are about the same age. Jon isn't cougar hunting here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Onions Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 5 minutes ago, The Wolves said: Plus who the hell would want to marry their aunt or nephew. A Targaryen. Well, maybe they feel a bit uncomfortable with marrying such a distant relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ McLannister Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Fun fact: Hitler's father was her mother's uncle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkofWinterfell Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, CJ McLannister said: Fun fact: Hey man I sent you a message and you never replied! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 21 minutes ago, The Wolves said: we haven't heard of this type of union before) Jocelyn Baratheon was Jaehaerys' half sister and married his son Aemon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliet Burke Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 So, if Jon and Dany fall in love, will their relation be the obstacle to marry? Obviously, not for Dany. But what about Jon? If this kind of marriages wasn't unusual in Westeros, it wouldn't be the people for him, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliet Burke Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 54 minutes ago, Jon's Queen Consort said: Jocelyn Baratheon was Jaehaerys' half sister and married his son Aemon. But they are members of Targaryen's family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateVergo Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Yes it is incest and Jon x Dany should never happen, worst ship in ASOIAF by a gigantic margin, even the creepy Sandor x Sansa or the baseless Arya x Gendry aren't as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universal Sword Donor Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 7 minutes ago, PirateVergo said: Yes it is incest and Jon x Dany should never happen, worst ship in ASOIAF by a gigantic margin, even the creepy Sandor x Sansa or the baseless Arya x Gendry aren't as bad. Kinda like Prince Daemon and Princess Rhaenyra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCat Rivers Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 It seems that, though it's not very common, it's accepted. Spoiler Aeron thinks that Asha and Victarion should marry to unite and strengthen their claims to the Irom Islands so they could overcome Euron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Storm Reborn Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 meeh whatever, whoever... and they lived happy ever after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Delight Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 I feel as though this is one of those gray areas. As ShadowCat Rivers pointed out, Aeron supports a union between Victarion and Asha. If I'm not mistaken, Victarion's response to this is something along the lines of, "Well I never thought of her like that." He didn't think that it was against the Drowned God per se, but it certainly didn't strike him as "normal." On a side note, I did once hear someone make the argument that there were uncle and niece marriages in the Stark family line. I don't know who those would be, though. Rickard and Lyarra were cousins, for example, which is not incest by Westerosi standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wull Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 I don't think Westeros would have a problem with an aunt/nephew marriage - especially when there are few other options. We have extremely recent examples of people marrying babies and hostages for claims. All's fair in the world of political marriages. Add in the long history Targaryens have in this particular area, and I don't think people would bat an eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOVMO Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 8 hours ago, CJ McLannister said: Fun fact: Hitler's father was her mother's uncle. And look how well that turned out. Lol. New topic "If Hitler was Lord of Harrenhall During Aerys II Targ's reign" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nami Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Their kids can come out with some problems...still, out of necessity such as the most advantageous marriage for two people who have almost the same claim to the throne...it can be considered. Targs married inside the family exactly to avoid extending the family to other houses so then they can start rebellions Honestly it's a taboo but Targs were doing it and no one cared as long as they kept their own privileges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenr1s Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 8 hours ago, CJ McLannister said: Fun fact: Hitler's father was her mother's uncle. The more I learn about this Hitler guy the less I care for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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