norwaywolf123 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 From Daenerys perspective could a marriage alliance with the Lannisters be beneficariy? 1. Would you aprove of marriage between Jaime Lannister and Daenerys Targaryen. 2. Do you think a marriage beween Daenerys and Jaime Lannister or another Lannister is possible? Lannister males - Jaime Lannister/http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Jaime_Lannister Born: 266 Aegon's Landing Experience/Value: Has commanded a army in the Greyjoy Rebelion, and also in War of the five king where he smashed the rivermen before being tricken by Robb Stark and his northmen, Has been to King's Landing court for nearly 20 years, Respected and feared, Capeable of producing heirs or proven fertility, Attractive - Lancel Lannister/http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Lancel_Lannister Born: 282 Aegon's Landing Experience/Value: Is favored by the Faith of the Seven, Heir to Casterly Rock after Tywin's children, Attractive, - Martyn Lannister/http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Martyn_Lannister Born: In between 285-287 Aegon's Landing Experience/Value: Heir to Casterly Rock after Tywin's children and Lancel - Tyrek Lannister/http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Tyrek_Lannister Born: 284 Aegon's Landing Experience/Value: Claim on Casterly Rock - Daven Lannister/http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Daven_Lannister Born: 273 Aegon's Landing Experience/Value: Rallied the Westermen conterattack on the Northmen and Rivermen and took back the westerlands, Claim on Casterly Rock, Attractive - Lucion Lannister/http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Lucion_Lannister Born: In Between 270-285 Aegon's Landing Experience/Value: Claim on Casterly Rock, Arguments against marriage alliance - Jaime Lannister killed Daenerys father Aerys Targaryen the last Targaryen king and broke his kingsguard oath. - Reviled as an oathbreaker Arguments for marriage Alliance - Would or could heal the rift in the relationship between houses Lannister and Targaryen caused by Tywin Lannister and Aerys Targaryen personal feud. - Would or could earn the loyalty of the westerlands. The Westerlands are a region which has always been closer to seven kingdoms and has no independance movements or want of independance unlike the North, Dorne and Iron Isles. - The Lannister follow the major religon, the Faith of the Seven and would be prefered over non religous or heathens by the Faith. THe Faith of the Seven is also strengthening its positon around westeros following the overturning of Maegor's law by queen Cersei. Allthou how much depends to some degree on how Cersei handles the faith. And be have seen how much power the faith has following the faith militant uprising where Maegor a strong warrior king with some of the biggest dragons in the world where unable to crush the faith's revolt. http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Faith_Militant_uprising, http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Faith_Militant - Maybe Jaime could become popular among the smallfolk if they knew why he killed Aerys? Aerys wanted to burn down King's Landing and had stashed wildfire around the city. If Aerys had been succesfull alot of smallfolk would have perished. Maybe 10-30% of the King's Landing population. See http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Wildfire_plot Other - Is there anything i have forgotten or should add to the post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Jon Snow Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I can't see Daenerys choosing to marry the Kingslayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaywolf123 Posted July 1, 2016 Author Share Posted July 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Commander Jon Snow said: I can't see Daenerys choosing to marry the Kingslayer. why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dariopatke Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 1 hour ago, norwaywolf123 said: why? Because she doesnt want to understand that Ned is not that guy Viserys told her he is and he is by far the best of all rebels. I cant see her forgiving Jaime and especially not marring him. And if Tyrion somehow gets to her inner circle that plan is deffinetly ruined. I liek idea of Daven Lannister, he was too irrelevant in RR, he was even irrelevant in GoT so not many war crimes can be pinned on him. And have you seen how Lannister succession changed from beggining? But I personally dont expect her to marry at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protagoras Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 ??? Jaime Lannister killed her father with a sword in his back, breaking his oath to him and to House Targaryen. Regardless of how justified the readers think this is, that Daenerys would not only forgive his crime but also marry the offender must be some kind of wierd fan fiction. By marrying him she will send out the signal that breaking his oath to her father was completely ok. And beside, why would she honor him with such a marriage? Why do Jaime deserve such a reward? She might forgive him for his crime, but a reward? No. This isn´t about Jaime and his popularity or his choices - this is about Daenerys not choosing a mate who have some baggage that will make any relation between them toxic. So: 1 - No, I certainly not approve. 2 - Sure it is possible, but there is no benefit for Daenerys whatsoever, since she will have secured up Tyrions support at that point. A marriage should be made to give new allies. And quite frankly - Tyrion is too valuable as a schemer and thinker to be replaced by another Lannister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boarsbane Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 1. No, she isn't a worthy consort 2. Yes but why degrade themselves by marrying some foreigner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetta Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Can we just start with Jaime not fucking his sister anymore? We need to get to that before moving on to Dany enjoying his golden fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion92 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 No way. Jaime is the guy who killed her father. No matter even if she finds out truth about wildfire. It is bad PR to marry a murderer of your father. And Jaime himself is not interested in any woman whose name is not Cersei or Brienne. Daven Lannister will get slaughtered in his own wedding in Riverrun by Lady Stoneheart. It is known. Lancel will get smashed by the Mountain in Cersei's trial. It is also known. Tyrek Lannister will be a puppet Lord of Casterly Rock installed by Varys to support fAegon's claim. Marrying any Lannister is not in her interest. She will already have one Lannister in her service as her adviser - Tyrion. And he will require Casterly Rock for his service. No need to marry him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyen Thuy Tran Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 If Dany turned out to love Jamie because he's her type, and totally ignored the fact that he killed her father and broke his vow, then I will be happy to see her doom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxine Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 I can't see it. Even though I truly believe that once Dany hears the full story about her father she'll move past hating the Starks and understand why the rebellion happened she's not going to marry Jaime. Even if she forgives & understands why he did it. She can't marry the guy who stabbed her father in the back. That would be too much. Maybe forgiveness & a pardon but marriage no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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