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The Ultimate Winds of Winter Resource

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30 minutes ago, Cas Stark said:

His most recent blog post that mentions Winds is from yesterday.  That seems like news to me. 

Yes, but nearly a page lamenting "his priorities" is not. 

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1 hour ago, Cas Stark said:

His most recent blog post that mentions Winds is from yesterday.  That seems like news to me. 

That's not a blog post. That's a comment on a blog post. There's a small, but significant, difference: comments aren't announcements. They're off-hand and spontaneous, and need to be treated as such.

8 hours ago, SuperMario said:

Thanks for the link. For someone who claims to have cleared his schedule of pretty much everything non-ASOIAF about 2 years ago according to other blog posts from him, his schedule sure seems pretty full.

That isn't his schedule. It's a list of past collaborations, operative word being 'past'. The only two current ones are editing projects, and only one of those is active, and we already discussed that. Accordingly, it is not news.

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On 19.03.2017 at 4:58 PM, Equilibrium said:

Even though I should have known better by now, I think TWOW edges closer to completion.

Wow. That is what I call an optimistic conclusion.

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On 3/19/2017 at 1:48 PM, Werthead said:

George made it abundantly clear that he does not want to talk about WINDS until there is something concrete to report. He has said that a 2017 release is possible, which is encouraging, but not certain, which is less so.

As we've said many (thousands) of times before, taking GRRM's statements and running them through mystical translations and applying tea leaves to the situation is not very helpful and, by precedent, frequently wrong. In January 2011 people were crying that the book would never be done and George's statements were negative and he was talking too much about Wild Cards and he'd sold out to the TV company and the book was out six months later.

@Werthead To be fair, George wasn't pulling peoples' legs in January 2011. He was still writing Dance, and he thought he had a long ways to go. Namely, GRRM still had two major sequences that were unfinished and set to close out ADWD -- Battle of Winterfell + Battle of Meereen and both sequences were far from being finished. From my reading of what transpired between George and his publisher, they told George to wrap it up in short order. George cut one sequence (Probably the Battle of Winterfell as there were fewer completed chapters), and Anne Groell told George to cut another sequences (The Battle of Meereen), and GRRM did .

Back in 2011, Anne said:

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Finishing this book where he absolutely wanted to end it would have taken probably another year and more pages than could be realistically bound between two covers. - Anne Groell, Suvudu Interview, 7/7/2011

So, back in January 2011, GRRM probably thought he had another year or so of writing ahead of him. Looking back at it now, I wish that George had spent another year writing the battles instead of cutting the story off where he did.

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[mod] Since there seems to be some debate, let's clarify a point or two.

This particular thread is a resource thread. It's intended for posting information about TWOW, as the OP makes clear. Speculation is not information.

In general, we discuss news about TWOW if and when there is news. When there isn't, we don't. If there's no news, there's nothing to discuss. Speculation isn't news, either.

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Here are some small "updates" regarding winds from his notablog. 

http://grrm.livejournal.com/536859.html

He states that he is still working. What I found interesting, is that he broke his word, when he stated back in that infamous blog statement, that he won't be involved in any other project before winds is done. 

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6 hours ago, Dragonsbone said:

Here are some small "updates" regarding winds from his notablog. 

http://grrm.livejournal.com/536859.html

He states that he is still working. What I found interesting, is that he broke his word, when he stated back in that infamous blog statement, that he won't be involved in any other project before winds is done. 

Yep. I find that really disconcerting. He even cut back his involvement with GoT on TV so as not to go back on his word of not getting involved with other projects until Winds was done. Now between all the projects not related to ASOIAF and all the sub-story projects of the ASOIAF universe, it sounds like he is primarily working on everything but TWOW.

And that is completely fine. They are his works and his life. 

But I don't like being lied to.

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I particularly enjoy how his clarification, that, no I am working with all 4 writers, makes it worse heh

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43 minutes ago, Whitering said:

I particularly enjoy how his clarification, that, no I am working with all 4 writers, makes it worse heh

Yeah, he says he is working with them and emailing, calling and texting them. But then he says he wishes he could clone himself clearly inferring he cannot work on everything and proceeds to say he is working on the TWOW in large, bold letters. That to me seemed like he was trying to convince himself rather than his fans. His own Daily Affirmation.

 

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5 hours ago, SuperMario said:

Yep. I find that really disconcerting. He even cut back his involvement with GoT on TV so as not to go back on his word of not getting involved with other projects until Winds was done. Now between all the projects not related to ASOIAF and all the sub-story projects of the ASOIAF universe, it sounds like he is primarily working on everything but TWOW.

And that is completely fine. They are his works and his life. 

But I don't like being lied to.

This is the worst. I don't understand it. He could have written a couple of episodes (a couple of months of work) for season 7 or season 8, at least one for s8 since it's the ending of his story.

I don't understand why lots of Wildcard books come first than Winds.

I'd like to think that it's because it's done, bu it isn't.

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5 hours ago, SuperMario said:

Yep. I find that really disconcerting. He even cut back his involvement with GoT on TV so as not to go back on his word of not getting involved with other projects until Winds was done. Now between all the projects not related to ASOIAF and all the sub-story projects of the ASOIAF universe, it sounds like he is primarily working on everything but TWOW.

And that is completely fine. They are his works and his life. 

But I don't like being lied to.

George is brainstorming concepts and throwing ideas around. He is working with his producer's hat on. Right now, to our knowledge, he isn't actually writing or co-writing the scripts, which is what he promised to stop doing for GoT.

 

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I don't understand why lots of Wildcard books come first than Winds.

 

Because 1) the time investment in creating a Wild Cards book is trivial compared to the time investment of writing the novel (and both can proceed simultaneously, as they have done for 20+ years), due to 2) the Wild Cards books being written by a team of other people with someone else (Melinda Snodgrass) doing a lot of the editing work.

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24 minutes ago, Werthead said:

 

Because 1) the time investment in creating a Wild Cards book is trivial compared to the time investment of writing the novel (and both can proceed simultaneously, as they have done for 20+ years), due to 2) the Wild Cards books being written by a team of other people with someone else (Melinda Snodgrass) doing a lot of the editing work.

It's not just one book, and it takes time. And he said Winds would be the priority.

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4 minutes ago, Meera of Tarth said:

It's not just one book, and it takes time. And he said Winds would be the priority.

But being the priority isn't the same as being the only thing, right? I haven't read anything that suggests to me that Winds is no longer a priority, only that it isn't his only project. And that's exactly what I expected. :dunno:

Some people work better when involved in more than one project, others do not. And my impression is that Martin is in the former group. 

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In accordance with board policy, that's enough speculation about the release date for TWoW, please.

As is always the case, this topic ends in tears, suspensions and or other sanctions.

Further attempts to discuss this issue will be swiftly dealt with.

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