The BlackBear Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 There's video going around of a helicopter firing at something. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-36811357 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philokles Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, Leap said: - Trump's tweet. So, not 100% sure on what he's saying here... doubtful that he's bragging about the inevitable military coup after he becomes president, so perhaps threatening Clinton or Obama with a coup? What? Does he realise he's a legitimate contender in the democratic election? Not that I expected it to make sense. It is from a parody account. Worryingly realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 A reporter on the CBC here is Turkish and her sister-in-law in Ankara has tweeted that the mosques are using their sound systems, the ones they use for the call to prayer, to call the people out to the streets in support of Erdogan. The military, of course, have to take care that they don't turn the population against them by shooting civilians in the streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 The main opposition leader has said he doesn't suppor the coup and they have to respect the democratically-elected government. Lots of gunfire on the bridges now. It appears they're still warning shots. Reports that a helicopter rocketed the state TV building and set fire to the military intelligence HQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 9 minutes ago, Leap said: - Trump's tweet. So, not 100% sure on what he's saying here... doubtful that he's bragging about the inevitable military coup after he becomes president, so perhaps threatening Clinton or Obama with a coup? What? Does he realise he's a legitimate contender in the democratic election? Not that I expected it to make sense. That's even more amazing than I could have hoped. ETA: aww...a parody account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 The government has apparently taken back control of the airport, says a person skyping from Istanbul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Walker Texas Ranger Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said: A reporter on the CBC here is Turkish and her sister-in-law in Ankara has tweeted that the mosques are using their sound systems, the ones they use for the call to prayer, to call the people out to the streets in support of Erdogan. The military, of course, have to take care that they don't turn the population against them by shooting civilians in the streets. I thought most of Erdogan's support was in rural areas, not in the major cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Oh crap, some reports that the shooting on the bridges may have been at the crowd. Also reports of shots fired at the airport. Other reports saying that some of the military vehicles have pulled out and that civilian police are arresting soldiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 BBC news showing lots of people marching on the bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 If this coup fails what happens to secularism in Turkey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Walker Texas Ranger Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I've also heard rumors that Germany denied Erdogan Asylum, so there are tumors going in both directions. That rumor was from more than half an hour ago, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 There's a picture of Erdogan addressing reporters somewhere, said to be Marmaris. But haven't seen any of the interview footage yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltigar Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: If this coup fails what happens to secularism in Turkey? Probably nothing good. Let's hope that, if it fails, the AKP comes to the conclusion that the Gülen movement was behind it. That will hopefully limit the damage. If Tayyip bounces back from this he'll probably succeed in undoing all of Atatürk's acomplishments 3 minutes ago, White Walker Texas Ranger said: I've also heard rumors that Germany denied Erdogan Asylum, so there are tumors going in both directions. That rumor was from more than half an hour ago, though. It would surprise me if he went to Germany for asylum if things really went sour. I think the US or the UK is a far more likely destination in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relic Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I hope someone gave NATO a heads up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaircat Meow Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I heard he's on his way to London having been refused asylum in Germany. But also reports he's on the ground in Turkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 The BBc are reporting that the military are likely followers of Fethullah Gulen a cleric living in the US. The parallel structure language has been used before in reference to him. Big Big massing in Taksim square. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 1 minute ago, Relic said: I hope someone gave NATO a heads up... Currently watching NBC News. They claim that the U.S. has been taken by surprise by this coup. If this, it would not be the same as the 1980 coup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophelia Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Difficult to know what's really happening, but sounds like Erdogan's plea for people to come out into public places to protest the coup were successful (encouraged also by mosques) and loads of people turned out, with opposition politicians also denouncing the coup. Implausible tales of people storming tanks with their bare hands. But elsewhere gunfire etc. being reported. The bravery of the people is astonishing (I'd be staying safe at home myself*). *even if I was a huge Erdogan fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 13 minutes ago, White Walker Texas Ranger said: I thought most of Erdogan's support was in rural areas, not in the major cities. Much of the opposition to the things he's doing is happening in the cities, because he has been taking control of or shutting down media outlets and muzzling free speech. But he was democratically elected by 52% of the voters (same as Brexit!) and people do take their democracy seriously. The CBC here is showing fairly large crowds of people taking to the streets. People are Muslims, and if the mosques are calling them out, many will come out. And now police are trying to arrest members of the military. Also, Turkey uses conscription, so a lot of soldiers would ome from small towns in Turkey, where Erdogan has support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltigar Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 tanks are firing according to the Guardian Quote Tanks have opened fire near the Turkish parliament building, Reuters reports, following similar reports from NTV and local journalists about gunfire in Ankara and Istanbul. Protesters have heard Erdogan’s call to take to the streets, though, and some are chanting “shoulder to shoulder against the coup”. Others have squared off with military forces who’ve closed bridges and streets. In one video, a policeman and military officer argue in a crowd in the street; in another, cars jammed in traffic honked horns in unison as people mill among them. In a third, a crowd sings and lifts up a huge Turkish flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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