One-eyed Misbehavin Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Why does he look sick fat and weak? Why did tywin reinstate him after throwing his sword down against the mountain clans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 I have no idea how a guy so weak, was able to get in the Kings Guard in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancho Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Are you guys familiar with aging or letting yourself go? Boros is easy to put in the pocket, since he is not very honorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancho Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 He was probably a decent knight once, Jorah faced him in the Lannisport tournament i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manderly's Rat Cook Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 I think Cersei is poisoning him, because she plans on him being the only KG available when Margaery has her trial by combat. He's half drunk half the time so she probably gives him wine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Suburbs Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 There is a theory that Blount is receiving low doses of a poison that will eventually be used to kill Tommen. That way, Blount will build up enough resistance so that he won't die when he tastes Tommen's food, but Tommen will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Wren Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 1 hour ago, One-eyed Misbehavin said: Why does he look sick fat and weak? The poisoning theories alluded to above seem likely to be true. Plus, he's old and broken down. 1 hour ago, One-eyed Misbehavin said: Why did tywin reinstate him after throwing his sword down against the mountain clans An excellent question! My guess? He's useful to Tywin because at some point he proved his usefulness to Tywin. Tywin killed Masha Heddle for not stopping Tyrion's kidnapping. But then reinstated the Kingsguard who gave up the heir to the throne?? No way: Boros did something Twin finds useful. So Tywin kept him around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregg22 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 I think his character is just "everyone's favorite waste of space". He got wooped by Jorah in a tourney, he's fat, drunk..bald..goes whoring all the time, has to taste every dish Tommen is served. He surrendered Tommen to Tyrians men and got thrown in a dungeon, he beats Sansa. I think he's there to annoy Cersei and provide some comic relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Chancho said: He was probably a decent knight once, Jorah faced him in the Lannisport tournament i think. and Jorah beat him. I'm still having a hard time seeing how this guy made Kingsguard. Barristan was an old man by the time the series started and could have probably kicked his ass with ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancho Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 40 minutes ago, sifth said: and Jorah beat him. I'm still having a hard time seeing how this guy made Kingsguard. Barristan was an old man by the time the series started and could have probably kicked his ass with ease. You will not find more then a handfull senior citizens in the whole world able to handle prime athletes... Not everyone gets to be a super heroe, Barristan is a exception, don't know why kingsguard serve for life, since age is really not kind to their body of work. Athletes age really bad in a lot of cases, getting fat in crazy pace, because they are used to high work rates when younger... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Wren Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 48 minutes ago, sifth said: and Jorah beat him. I'm still having a hard time seeing how this guy made Kingsguard. Barristan was an old man by the time the series started and could have probably kicked his ass with ease. 2 minutes ago, Chancho said: You will not find more then a handfull senior citizens in the whole world able to handle prime athletes... Not everyone gets to be a super heroe, Barristan is a exception, don't know why kingsguard serve for life, since age is really not kind to their body of work. Athletes age really bad in a lot of cases, getting fat in crazy pace, because they are used to high work rates when younger... To this point-- When Jorah tells Dany about beating Boros, he makes it sound like it was a very rare accomplishment: Quote "I fight as well as any man, Khaleesi, but I have never been a tourney knight. Yet with Lynesse's favor knotted round my arm, I was a different man. I won joust after joust. Lord Jason Mallister fell before me, and Bronze Yohn Royce. Ser Ryman Frey, his brother Ser Hosteen, Lord Whent, Strongboar, even Ser Boros Blount of the Kingsguard, I unhorsed them all. In the last match, I broke nine lances against Jaime Lannister to no result, and King Robert gave me the champion's laurel. I crowned Lynesse queen of love and beauty, and that very night went to her father and asked for her hand. I was drunk, as much on glory as on wine. By rights I should have gotten a contemptuous refusal, but Lord Leyton accepted my offer. We were married there in Lannisport, and for a fortnight I was the happiest man in the wide world." Clash, Dany I So, at least at the time of that tourney, which is after Boros was Kingsguarded by Robert after the Rebellion, Jorah saw him as a pretty good jouster. One other thing: according to the Citadel, the Blount sigil is a Porcupine--as in the Porcupine Knight defeated by the Knight of the Laughing Tree. The sigil hasn't been mentioned in the novels yet--a lot haven't and we only know them from the Citadel. But seems like there's a reasonable chance Boros was one of the knights defeating by the Knight of the Laughing Tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 9 hours ago, Sly Wren said: To this point-- When Jorah tells Dany about beating Boros, he makes it sound like it was a very rare accomplishment: So, at least at the time of that tourney, which is after Boros was Kingsguarded by Robert after the Rebellion, Jorah saw him as a pretty good jouster. One other thing: according to the Citadel, the Blount sigil is a Porcupine--as in the Porcupine Knight defeated by the Knight of the Laughing Tree. The sigil hasn't been mentioned in the novels yet--a lot haven't and we only know them from the Citadel. But seems like there's a reasonable chance Boros was one of the knights defeating by the Knight of the Laughing Tree. I'm just saying can you name one accomplishment that Boros Blount made that makes him Kingsguard worthy. So far the only examples I have are, "faced Jorah is a tourney..................and lost to Jorah in a tourney". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valyrian Spoon Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 12 hours ago, sifth said: and Jorah beat him. I'm still having a hard time seeing how this guy made Kingsguard. Barristan was an old man by the time the series started and could have probably kicked his ass with ease. I think Blount was one of the Kingsguard appointments made for political rather than martial reasons. 12 hours ago, John Suburbs said: There is a theory that Blount is receiving low doses of a poison that will eventually be used to kill Tommen. That way, Blount will build up enough resistance so that he won't die when he tastes Tommen's food, but Tommen will. Yeah of all the poisoning theories I think this one makes the most sense somebody is building an immunity in Blount so they can kill Tommen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-eyed Misbehavin Posted July 17, 2016 Author Share Posted July 17, 2016 13 hours ago, sifth said: and Jorah beat him. I'm still having a hard time seeing how this guy made Kingsguard. Barristan was an old man by the time the series started and could have probably kicked his ass with ease. Barristan could kill him with his non-sword hand while taking a piss. Only 2 handed Jamie,mountain,oberyn guys like that could hang with OLD barristan. But he's so freaking good at analyzing his opponents strengths and weaknesses (in a fight) that I wouldn't bet against him in any 1 on 1 match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-eyed Misbehavin Posted July 17, 2016 Author Share Posted July 17, 2016 14 hours ago, John Suburbs said: There is a theory that Blount is receiving low doses of a poison that will eventually be used to kill Tommen. That way, Blount will build up enough resistance so that he won't die when he tastes Tommen's food, but Tommen will. I like this one the best... Also size would have a huge role to play Im not sure you can have a tolerance to poison. But if that is the plot line...... It'd be cool with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-eyed Misbehavin Posted July 17, 2016 Author Share Posted July 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Valyrian Spoon said: I think Blount was one of the Kingsguard appointments made for political rather than martial reasons. Yeah of all the poisoning theories I think this one makes the most sense somebody is building an immunity in Blount so they can kill Tommen. Any idea what that political reason might be? Is it directly related to Tywin reinstating him after he threw his sword down instead of fighting to protect his Prince (do his job) from a bunch of burned men trying to kidnap him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valyrian Spoon Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 50 minutes ago, One-eyed Misbehavin said: Any idea what that political reason might be? Is it directly related to Tywin reinstating him after he threw his sword down instead of fighting to protect his Prince (do his job) from a bunch of burned men trying to kidnap him I was speculating that his initial appointment may have had a political motive. The Blounts are a crownlander house I believe so it may have been a way to throw the crownlanders a bone after the rebellion. I completely forgot that Blount needed to be reinstated after surrendering Tommen. It strikes me as odd a man as ruthless as Tywin would reinstate Blount, especially as now there seems to be a precedent for removing Kingsguard knights from service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancho Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 i think Tywin didn't want to let the public know the kingsguard sucked, he was more worried about other things and by saving blount ass this one is in debt with him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Wren Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 7 hours ago, sifth said: I'm just saying can you name one accomplishment that Boros Blount made that makes him Kingsguard worthy. So far the only examples I have are, "faced Jorah is a tourney..................and lost to Jorah in a tourney". Right--sorry. I just meant that he was once a good tourney knight. But you are absolutely right: we've neither seen nor heard of him do anything remarkable enough to warrant being a Kingsguard. If anything, he's a craven--look at him during the riot when Tyrion wants them to go get Sansa. 2 hours ago, Valyrian Spoon said: I completely forgot that Blount needed to be reinstated after surrendering Tommen. It strikes me as odd a man as ruthless as Tywin would reinstate Blount, especially as now there seems to be a precedent for removing Kingsguard knights from service Yup! We only know a few things about Boros Blount: Boros is the only named member of House Blount in the Crownlands. He was a good jouster around the time of Robert's Rebellion. He's a Kingsguard who enjoys beating little girls (Sansa). He's vicious and brutal to young girls, but craven during the riot in King's Landing. He gave up Tommen and Cersei left him to rot in Rosby dungeon. But Tywin reinstated him. And his sigil? A Porcupine. Tywin killed Masha Heddle, an innkeeper, for letting Cat take Tyrion with armed men. He had her body hanged on a gibbet outside her inn. And innocent, unarmed, old woman. Over Tyrion, whom Tywin loathes. But he reinstated craven, old, fat, Boros AFTER Boros gave up the one and only heir to the Iron Throne? No way--Tywin only keeps vicious men around if they are useful to him. So far, we've seen Boros do NOTHING to merit that. Which means that in the past, he must have done something useful to Tywin. My guess? It has to do with the Porcupine Knight defeated by the Knight of the Laughing tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valyrian Spoon Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 12 minutes ago, Sly Wren said: My guess? It has to do with the Porcupine Knight defeated by the Knight of the Laughing tree. It's been a while since I read any of the books and I've mostly forgotten about the knight of the laughing tree story. Would you mind elaborating on the porcupine knight and why you think it would be a reason why Tywin would reinstate Blount. You've piqued my curiosity. Edit: Never mind sorry I've seen the link to your thread on the theory. I'll go have a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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