Corvinus85 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 2 hours ago, dooog said: I didn't care for that episode one bit. Question... for the past 7 seasons practically every major group Rick's group encounter are bad people, either psychos or led by a psycho - the Claimers, the Terminus Cannibals, Woodbury, the guys in the bar near Hershel's farm, those Wolves idiots, the Governors 2nd group, the Cops group in that terrible hospital storyline. So now that we've finally encountered the big bad Negan does this now mean every new group they discover will conveniently be good, albeit weak / naive people? Like the Kingdom, Alexandria and the Hilltop. It's because things are being scaled up. Negan has a big group, with the capacity to terrorize multiple good groups at the same time. So the only way for Rick's group to win is to make alliances with the other good guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dooog Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 3 hours ago, Corvinus said: It's because things are being scaled up. Negan has a big group, with the capacity to terrorize multiple good groups at the same time. So the only way for Rick's group to win is to make alliances with the other good guys. I get why. It's yet another eye rolling plot convenience is my point. These other good groups haven't existed for what, the first 6 years that the shows been running Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A True Kaniggit Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 The people at the nursing home? The farm before they joined Ricks group? The people at Woodbury and the camp that the governor tricked into attacking the prison? There have been a few good groups in the early seasons. Its just that they either all die or get subsumed by Ricks group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Solid episode. I really like the guy playing Dwight. Which if they stick to the comics storyline is a good thing as he'll have a pretty large role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecan Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I liked the episode as well. I will say though that this is the third episode in a row now that's taken place in just one location and focused on just that section of the storyline. TWD has done that before, and it's fine, but I hope that isn't the whole first half of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I didn't really like the episode that much. Sure we learned some about how the Saviors operate, and Daryl defying Negan was cool, but at the end I felt like the episode should have been divided between more than one storyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mance Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 23 minutes ago, Corvinus said: but at the end I felt like the episode should have been divided between more than one storyline. It was though. We got Daryl's current story, as well as current and backstory on Dwight and Sheryl. And in a way Daryl was really just backdrop for the Dwight/Sheryl plot. We learned what they had been through to get to where they are now by watching what Daryl is being put through. I thought it was really well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 27 minutes ago, The Mance said: It was though. We got Daryl's current story, as well as current and backstory on Dwight and Sheryl. And in a way Daryl was really just backdrop for the Dwight/Sheryl plot. We learned what they had been through to get to where they are now by watching what Daryl is being put through. I thought it was really well done. Also, bonus points for using A Town Called Malice during the opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 42 minutes ago, The Mance said: It was though. We got Daryl's current story, as well as current and backstory on Dwight and Sheryl. And in a way Daryl was really just backdrop for the Dwight/Sheryl plot. We learned what they had been through to get to where they are now by watching what Daryl is being put through. I thought it was really well done. I meant the storylines of the group we've been following since the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leofric Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 On 11/2/2016 at 10:47 AM, dooog said: 1 hour ago, Corvinus said: I meant the storylines of the group we've been following since the beginning. Since Rick, Carl, Darryl, Carol, and Morgan are the only ones left from season 1, the first three episodes of Season 7 have been focusing on the original group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 I liked the episode. What does working for points mean? Is it different than what Rick's group is doing, where they must pay 50 percent of all stuff they find? Is it what those guys cleaning corridors were doing? Will he kneel? I don't think he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Never read the comics, but Daryl is gonna get out of this situation with bike and bow in hand, am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 21 minutes ago, Michael Seswatha Jordan said: Never read the comics, but Daryl is gonna get out of this situation with bike and bow in hand, am I right? Daryl isn't in the comics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 16 minutes ago, Nictarion said: Daryl isn't in the comics. Well, that makes a sense. He'll definitely have an unbelievable escape at some point then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecan Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 31 minutes ago, Michael Seswatha Jordan said: Well, that makes a sense. He'll definitely have an unbelievable escape at some point then. I hope so. I'd like to see something cool happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 On 08/11/2016 at 7:41 AM, Martell Spy said: I liked the episode. What does working for points mean? Is it different than what Rick's group is doing, where they must pay 50 percent of all stuff they find? Is it what those guys cleaning corridors were doing? Them and Gordon the guy Dwight shot. It's a kind of caste system, Negan is at the very top, then the fighters (who are all we've seen before this episode, then the serfs. The way I see it points are really just being used instead of money, making sure people are paying their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Quote Them and Gordon the guy Dwight shot. It's a kind of caste system, Negan is at the very top, then the fighters (who are all we've seen before this episode, then the serfs. The way I see it points are really just being used instead of money, making sure people are paying their way. Thanks. I was a bit confused because there seem to be 2 differents kinds of serfs. Those guys we saw cleaning the corridor. And groups like Rick's that have some measure of freedom and just have to pay 50% constantly. I assume Daryl will end up cleaning those floors if he doesn't find a way to escape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A True Kaniggit Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Didn't know it'd be a long episode tonight. I'm kinda hoping Dawiggit just wants Darryls bike so he can help him escape somewhere down the line. Edit: And yeah, burning the mattresses was really a dick move by the Saviors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireWolfSpirit Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I love the tension were seeing in Rosita and Michone struggling to accept the new life under Neegan. Carl as well, these three are clearly ready to revolt, it will be interesting for me to see how they plot. Rosita and Michone were great this episode, loved seeing Rosita portrayed in more of a fighter role, its about time ive got to see her take on more of that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 10 hours ago, DireWolfSpirit said: I love the tension were seeing in Rosita and Michone struggling to accept the new life under Neegan. Carl as well, these three are clearly ready to revolt, it will be interesting for me to see how they plot. Rosita and Michone were great this episode, loved seeing Rosita portrayed in more of a fighter role, its about time ive got to see her take on more of that role. To be honest I was a bit confused about Michone. Sure, season 3 Michone would have reacted this way, but considering her plea with Negan in the first episode, I thought she was going to be one of the obedient ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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