Daendrew Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 At the 2016 Democratic National Convention Vice President Joe Biden gave a subtle nod to George R. R. Martin and Dorne in his speech, which starts at the 16:30 mark. He said: We’ve had candidates before attempted to get elected to appealing to our fears, but they never succeeded, because we do not scare easily. We never bow, we never bend, we never break when confronted with crisis. No, we endure, we overcome and we always, always, always move forward. I think it was a very nice touch and a testament to GRRM's tremendous talent and contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion of the West Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Can't say that I am very up-to-date with US politics but it was a very entertaining detail there, and I agree that it most likely has been taken from the works of GRRM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince of the North Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Preach it, Uncle Joe!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Martell Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 It probably comes from a speechwriter who's fan of the books/show. I'm not sure Joe Biden knew the reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BricksAndSparrows Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 2 hours ago, Anton Martell said: It probably comes from a speechwriter who's fan of the books/show. I'm not sure Joe Biden knew the reference Absolutely. It's like the speechwriter Rick Rolled Biden's speech... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Martell Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 23 minutes ago, BricksAndSparrows said: Absolutely. It's like the speechwriter Rick Rolled Biden's speech... Maybe it's the same speechwriter that put the rick roll in Melania's speech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Fossoway Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 IMO it'll get a little ridiculous when politicians begin doing speeches with Houses's words, specially when most probably they don't know the series. Kudos to the speech writers. - "I thank all the citizens that voted me and remember, a John Doe always pays his debts". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoodedCrow Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 It would be fun if Martin wrote the speech. He could have. He wrote the Martell motto at the very least, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkofWinterfell Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I thought anything politics related had its own subforum called Off-Topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seams Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I think that's a phrase that predates the ASOIAF series. The speechwriter may be a fan, and may have put the phrase in the speech because the show (or books) put it in his or her head, but that combination of words is not unique to GRRM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoamingRonin Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Seams said: I think that's a phrase that predates the AOIAF series. The speechwriter may be a fan, and may have put the phrase in the speech because the show (or books) put it in his or her head, but that combination of words is not unique to GRRM. Yeah. I'm not inclined to believe it was a ASOIAF nod. If it were more specific like the Stark words or the Lannister "debts" thing then I would agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khal BlackfyreO Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Its all just rolling (rick!) around in our collective subconscious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceHenryris Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Who knows? Sarah Silverman busted out a "Baba Booey". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Criston of House Shapper Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 16 hours ago, Anton Martell said: It probably comes from a speechwriter who's fan of the books/show. I'm not sure Joe Biden knew the reference That was my first thought, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Ronan Storm Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Good on Biden for appearing to be "in" on things. Random thought: I've always thought the sigil for modern America should be a sleeping cow. Lots of potent symbolism in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maester of Valyria Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Well they're about to crown elect Viserys Targaryen Donald Trump, an arrogant and pretentious 'leader' with delusions of grandeur and terrible negotiating skills, who's only where he is right now because of his very rich backer Illyrio father, so I'd say that ASOIAF comparisons are apt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferocious Veldt Roarer Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Most appropriate, since Donald has been all "Hear me roar" since always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon_Tor Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 22 hours ago, Anton Martell said: It probably comes from a speechwriter who's fan of the books/show. I'm not sure Joe Biden knew the reference Obama was in a PSA with the premise "Naming all the characters who died in Game of Thrones is hard: registering to vote is not" and when he got to Hodor he frowned and went "that was really sad". It made me believe that at least Barry watches the show. I like to imagine him and Michelle and Joe and Jill all get together every Sunday to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoodedCrow Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Ha, Maester of Valyria. rich backer Ilyrio of all the Dothrakis. Sigil: rampant dollar sign and corn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorEmixam Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Or when Hillary said something like " make the youngs pokemon GO to the polls" having people make connection to pop culture and everyone start clapping "eh I got that reference" kind of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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