Skahaz mo Kandaq Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 If you have to forgive one of the following, who would it be and why? Consider all their "sins" in making your choice. (1). Roose (2) . Ramsey (3) . Walder (4). Gregor (5). Cersei Make your choice and tell me their sin(s) in your eyes. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philokles Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Cersei on grounds of insanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamWesterosiWallace Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 1. Roose did it because he wanted power. 2. Rape is unforgivable, fuck you Ramsay. 3. Walder did it for the sake of his House and his honor. 4. Read #2. Fuck you Gregor. 5. No. Just no. You don't get to hate a baby and come out clean. So yeah, if I absolutely had to forgive one of them, it'd probably be Walder Frey. Huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King17 Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Walder frey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_Up_Bxtch Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Out of these choices? Walder Frey defiantly... 1. Roose - Killed Robb for power, and power alone. 2. Do i even need to go into detail with Ramsay? 3. Walder - did it for the honor of his house. Rob also slighted him as well by marrying Jeyne. 4. Gregor Clegane - and "forgive" in the same sentence are you insane? 5. Cersei - Fucks her brother, has her husband killed, orders the slaughter of her husband's bastards, unfairly hates a baby because her mother died giving birth to him, seriously I see no silver lining here lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
house of dayne Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 i think of all of them, roose has the most redeemable qualities..i could imagine him as an excellent if somewhat brutal ruler whereas the others seem stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamWesterosiWallace Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Adam_Up_Bxtch said: Out of these choices? Walder Frey defiantly... 1. Roose - Killed Robb for power, and power alone. 2. Do i even need to go into detail with Ramsay? 3. Walder - did it for the honor of his house. Rob also slighted him as well by marrying Jeyne. 4. Gregor Clegane - and "forgive" in the same sentence are you insane? 5. Cersei - Fucks her brother, has her husband killed, orders the slaughter of her husband's bastards, unfairly hates a baby because her mother died giving birth to him, seriously I see no silver lining here lol Does that make Catelyn "a little more hateable"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_Up_Bxtch Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 19 minutes ago, WilliamWesterosiWallace said: Does that make Catelyn "a little more hateable"? I am not a Cat fan but I actually understood her resentment for Jon, he was the constant reminder that her husband cheated on her, should she have been as cold with him as she was? No, but she was nowhere near as cold as Cersei and Tywin are towards Tyrion. Cersei's hatred for Tyrion is very uncalled for and she says it stems through her mother's death and the Maggy the Frog prophecy. All of these are farces of course as she just really dislikes Tyrion because of his deformity, same with Tywin, and both use Joanna's death as a conduit to further justify their hatred/dislike towards him. Jaime did see past his brother's deformity and the two were always close because of it, and Jaime did not blame him for Joanna's death. If Joanna had died giving birth to Tyrion and he wasn't a dwarf, I think Tywin would still be pissed that his wife died, but he wouldn't have as burning of a hatred/resentment towards Tyrion. At least this is how I see it at any rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion of the West Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Cersei because as people have said, she's insane. And possibly Roose as well because I find him more interesting than Ramsay and I don't want the Boltons to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floki of the Ironborn Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 I hate to say it, but I'd forgive Walder Frey before I forgave the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boarsbane Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Gregor because he'd be the most useful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 2 hours ago, house of dayne said: i think of all of them, roose has the most redeemable qualities..i could imagine him as an excellent if somewhat brutal ruler whereas the others seem stupid Roose ain't that smart either. He stupidly put this whole house in danger of extinction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Sand of Starfall Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Walder, he did it for his family, whilst Cerci also acted in what she saw as being in her family interest, she wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bironic Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Probably old Walder Frey. He had probably the best reasons for his crimes. A guy who has fathered so many children and ruled for such a long time might be useful. And he is kind of funny. Heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandcat Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Walder. Everybody saw him as a nobody, it was only natural that he would strike back at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelittledragonthatcould Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 33 minutes ago, The Wolves said: Roose ain't that smart either. He stupidly put this whole house in danger of extinction. Pretty much every time a noble does that he risks that happening. Though I do think it was incredibly dumb having Ramsay legitimized. Ramsay no longer needs Roose around to give him power as he is officially a Bolton while the major reason I see Lady Dustin's faction turning against Roose is the realization that Ramsay is his official heir and he is clearly a Psychopath who enjoys the suffering of others. As for who I'd forgive, probably Walder. It would have been Cersei but then she had more than a few innocent children executed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 16 minutes ago, thelittledragonthatcould said: Pretty much every time a noble does that he risks that happening. Though I do think it was incredibly dumb having Ramsay legitimized. Ramsay no longer needs Roose around to give him power as he is officially a Bolton while the major reason I see Lady Dustin's faction turning against Roose is the realization that Ramsay is his official heir and he is clearly a Psychopath who enjoys the suffering of others. As for who I'd forgive, probably Walder. It would have been Cersei but then she had more than a few innocent children executed. I get what you're saying it's just that I don't see what Ramsey gained from his betrayal in the long run. He wasn't even going to get to rule the North, Tyrion and Sansa if everything worked out liked Tywin planned would have taken over in the long run. Tywin didn't even give Ramsey/House Bolton a real Stark and they know it. And he could have easily gotten another bride(probably a Royce because Yohn has daughters and he already has an established relationship with the Royces)then a Frey. Yet what he got now is the last of his house surrounded by people who hate them inside and outside the castle. Plus you're right Ramsey is now legitimized and does not need him, so he and his unborn son(who he says Ramsy will kill)is in danger of being killed plus Ramsey who no one will follow will die after them. It's just a stupid situation all around that benefitted no one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Fauntleroy Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 I'm going against the grain here and saying Roose. His is the only one not done with malice or cruelty. Frey violated guest right, which you need to remember is a heavy sin in their world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Lord Fauntleroy said: I'm going against the grain here and saying Roose. His is the only one not done with malice or cruelty. Frey violated guest right, which you need to remember is a heavy sin in their world. Roose slaughtered his own country men for no reason. And no he didn't do it because he was looking out for him and his house Roose did it cause he's cruel and evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lord of the Crossing Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Lord Walder Frey. He is kin after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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