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16 minutes ago, Lady Blizzardborn said:

Why would Rhaegar and Lyanna name their child Aegon when Rhaegar already had an Aegon? 

Rhaegar and Lyanna wouldn't have. Lyanna would have, in order to fulfill Rhaegar's wishes once she learned that Rhaegar's family had been murdered.

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1 minute ago, J. Stargaryen said:

Rhaegar and Lyanna wouldn't have. Lyanna would have, in order to fulfill Rhaegar's wishes once she learned that Rhaegar's family had been murdered.

Rhaegar's wishes in what? Having a son named Aegon by TDtwP? Seems a bit unlikely. He thought it would be his son, but he also thought it was Aegon. Lyanna's child being the only hope left doesn't mean he had to be named Aegon.

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26 minutes ago, Lady Blizzardborn said:

Rhaegar's wishes in what? Having a son named Aegon by TDtwP? Seems a bit unlikely. He thought it would be his son, but he also thought it was Aegon. Lyanna's child being the only hope left doesn't mean he had to be named Aegon.

Hence the fulfilling Rhaegar's wishes part. Rhaegar thought his son and heir was destined to be the PtwP, and he chose the name Aegon for him. Naturally Rhaegar believed this applied to his first-born son, who was his heir. After the Sack of KL/Lyanna giving birth, that boy was now Rhaegar's heir. In the vision, Rhaegar asks, "What better name for a king?" after naming his son with Elia. Well, that kid's chances at being king decreased markedly when he was murdered. But Rhaegar had another son (on the way). And that's Rhaegar's only living child, thus the only one with a shot at becoming king. "What better name for a king?" Honestly, I think that whole scene is set up to show us that Rhaegar was pinning his hopes on the wrong son. Evidenced by Rhaegar name dropping the Song of Ice and Fire.

So, Aegon, Rhaegar's son and heir, and the PtwP, has a song—the Song of Ice and Fire. Leaving aside your issues with the name, does that sound like anyone you've heard of?

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12 hours ago, J. Stargaryen said:

Hence the fulfilling Rhaegar's wishes part. Rhaegar thought his son and heir was destined to be the PtwP, and he chose the name Aegon for him. Naturally Rhaegar believed this applied to his first-born son, who was his heir. After the Sack of KL/Lyanna giving birth, that boy was now Rhaegar's heir. In the vision, Rhaegar asks, "What better name for a king?" after naming his son with Elia. Well, that kid's chances at being king decreased markedly when he was murdered. But Rhaegar had another son (on the way). And that's Rhaegar's only living child, thus the only one with a shot at becoming king. "What better name for a king?" Honestly, I think that whole scene is set up to show us that Rhaegar was pinning his hopes on the wrong son. Evidenced by Rhaegar name dropping the Song of Ice and Fire.

So, Aegon, Rhaegar's son and heir, and the PtwP, has a song—the Song of Ice and Fire. Leaving aside your issues with the name, does that sound like anyone you've heard of?

Okay. Thank you for taking the time to explain it for me.

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