GallowKnight Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Apparently Tom Hardy is set to play Venom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterfell is Burning Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 hours ago, GallowKnight said: Apparently Tom Hardy is set to play Venom. Well...that's an odd choice. For both the character and Hardy himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Why are we getting this film? What exactly is the point of Venom without Spidey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mother of The Others Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I really hope Nova shows up after Thanos "does stuff" to get that stone. Then, Captain Marvel....potentially they meet up to be some kind of star squad. I don't get much out of spidey stuff being shoehorned into the bigger storyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 3 hours ago, The BlackBear said: Why are we getting this film? What exactly is the point of Venom without Spidey? I heard that Sony is not doing so good financially so they probably think that the new Spider-Man movie will help them financially so maybe they'll try to use that success to sell a Venom movie. Just a idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 11 hours ago, The Wolves said: I heard that Sony is not doing so good financially so they probably think that the new Spider-Man movie will help them financially so maybe they'll try to use that success to sell a Venom movie. Just a idea. They made less than in 2015/16. But they still made income before tax of $2.2Bn. So over all they are not in trouble. But the pictures business unit lost over $700M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I assume it'll be Eddie Brock Venom? I'd rather see the Flash Thompson soldier Venom tbh. I think it'd make a decent movie. Still wanna see Carnage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarGalley Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 13 hours ago, Nictarion said: Still wanna see Carnage. I don't really think they'll be able to pull it off proper. They're going in the direction of a more family friendly Spiderman franchise and a Carnage movie should be closer to a rated R movie with bloody, serial killing scenes. I'm trying to think of the darkest PG-13 comic book movie made and only the The Dark Knight comes to mind right now. It should be at least as dark as that with more blood and civilian deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Maybe they'll do a hybrid villain and soldier Venom. Like down on his luck ex-soldier hired to steal something from Stark Industries and he comes across vials of blood from Peter and spills it on "symbiote" stuff Stark was making. He becomes Venom, then moves toward being a hero, ala Flash's Agent Venom. Hey, I'm not saying it's a great (or even good) idea, but it'd let Sony have its cake and eat it too. I'd just rather not repeat the storyline wasted in Spiderman 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSumm Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 We don't know if Venom will be in the MCU yet do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 After SM: Homecoming, I'd assume the Sony movies will be connected just nominally. Kind of like Netflix shows or Agents of Shield. It'd be cool to see more cross over back and forth, but who knows at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSumm Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 31 minutes ago, Myrddin said: After SM: Homecoming, I'd assume the Sony movies will be connected just nominally. Kind of like Netflix shows or Agents of Shield. It'd be cool to see more cross over back and forth, but who knows at this point. I'd be surprised if Marvel allow them to just gate crash their schedule unless they're involved creatively. My guess is it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 On 2017-5-22 at 7:41 PM, Nictarion said: Still wanna see Carnage. On 2017-5-23 at 9:30 AM, WarGalley said: I don't really think they'll be able to pull it off proper. They're going in the direction of a more family friendly Spiderman franchise and a Carnage movie should be closer to a rated R movie with bloody, serial killing scenes. I'm trying to think of the darkest PG-13 comic book movie made and only the The Dark Knight comes to mind right now. It should be at least as dark as that with more blood and civilian deaths. I assume Venom is going to be an R-rated movie, going after the Deadpool/Logan audience. If Venom 1 does well I can see them going for Carnage in Venom 2. There is clearly an appetite for R-rated superhero stuff with the Netfilx series, esp Jessica Jones and Daredevil, showing there is a keen audience. If there was ever going to be an actual cross over with Netflix I could see it being with Venom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Final Spider-man trailer, it's pretty awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channel4s-JonSnow Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 9 minutes ago, The BlackBear said: Final Spider-man trailer, it's pretty awesome. Best one so far, really FEELs like Spiderman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarGalley Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 16 hours ago, The Anti-Targ said: I assume Venom is going to be an R-rated movie, going after the Deadpool/Logan audience. If Venom 1 does well I can see them going for Carnage in Venom 2. There is clearly an appetite for R-rated superhero stuff with the Netfilx series, esp Jessica Jones and Daredevil, showing there is a keen audience. If there was ever going to be an actual cross over with Netflix I could see it being with Venom. Why do you assume Venom is going to be rated R? This is a Sony production, not Fox. We're getting a younger, coming of age teenage Spiderman in the next movie. If Venom or Carnage crosses over in any way with the current Tom Holland franchise, I'd be very surprised if they (Sony) push the boundaries of violence especially with Carnage who is an outright serial killer slicing people in half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 1 hour ago, WarGalley said: Why do you assume Venom is going to be rated R? This is a Sony production, not Fox. We're getting a younger, coming of age teenage Spiderman in the next movie. If Venom or Carnage crosses over in any way with the current Tom Holland franchise, I'd be very surprised if they (Sony) push the boundaries of violence especially with Carnage who is an outright serial killer slicing people in half. Everything I've read so far suggested that Venom will not be part of the MCU. There were even rumors that Sony plans to not renew the Spider-Man deal with Marvel after Spiderman 2, or that they plan on aggressively renegotiating it. They probably think that if they can somehow build build up a "Spiderverse" without Spider-man (I'm actually not sure if they can use the Tom Holland Spider-Man in non-MCU movies under the current deal) it will increase their negotiating position. So I'd expect Venom to be agnostic about what universe it's taking place in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard of Boston Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 The new International trailer for Spidey is so. much. great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I hope the Vulture's good, I really like what we've seen of him so far, but the villains to tend to underwhelm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarGalley Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 6 hours ago, RumHam said: Everything I've read so far suggested that Venom will not be part of the MCU. There were even rumors that Sony plans to not renew the Spider-Man deal with Marvel after Spiderman 2, or that they plan on aggressively renegotiating it. They probably think that if they can somehow build build up a "Spiderverse" without Spider-man (I'm actually not sure if they can use the Tom Holland Spider-Man in non-MCU movies under the current deal) it will increase their negotiating position. So I'd expect Venom to be agnostic about what universe it's taking place in. So a standalone rated-R Venom movie without Spiderman? I guess it's possible.. but not having Spiderman just seems so odd to me. I'm trying to think of what storyline they'd go with (I know he has his own comic strip but those stories weren't the most compelling if you take out Spiderman). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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