Craster's Black Blooded Curse (or WTF happened to Benjen)

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One of those famously violent and accursed places is Craster's Keep, with Craster and his wives - who are actually his daughters - him sacrifing his sons, his extortion of Lord Commander Jeor Mormont (aka the Old Bear), the mutiny and aftermath events. After the horror of Harrenhal (see Harrenhal's Curse), Craster's Keep may very well be the runner up of most horrific places.

While Craster and his Keep only appear in two chapters, they are littered with bear references, verbally, symbolically as well as bear characters, including a bear kill and bear wedding, but also plenty of Goat or Ram-characters, who are not so different from Vargo Hoat. Now normally I would simply post this in my bear-maiden thread, but because most of this essay is basically a theory that attempts to answer "WTF happened to Benjen and his rangers and what does Craster have to do with it?" I'm publishing it separately here. I will reveal a tale of murder and cannibalism, and a proposal on the fate of Benjen and his six rangers. Craster bears a heavy black blooded curse indeed.

Though this essay does not go deeply into bear-lore at all, for those who are unfamiliar with bear-folklore, that I will reference here and there in this essay, I urge you to read my introduction on bear-lore

Ok, here goes...

Chekhov Bear Skulls, Axes and Murder

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On the southwest, [Jon] found an open gate flanked by a pair of animal skulls on high poles: a bear to one side, a ram to the other. Bits of flesh still clung to the bear skull, Jon noted as he joined the line riding past. (aCoK, Jon III)

Surprise, surprise - well not really - what hangs in plain sight at the poles of Craster's Gate? A bear skull and a ram's. It sounds like the bear has been killed recently, since flesh still clings to it. George has Edd point out that bear skull again, when Jon asks him for Jeor's axe as a gift for Craster, the host. If something hanging from a pole (rather than a wall) is pointed out twice by characters in the same chapter, the author is clearly saying, "That bear skull is important! It's not just some grizzly detail for decorative purposes to set the mood." (see what I did there?)

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"Give the wildling an axe, why not?" [Dolorous Edd] pointed out Mormont's weapon, a short-hafted battle-axe with gold scrollwork inlaid on the black steel blade. "He'll give it back, I vow. Buried in the Old Bear's skull, like as not. Why not give him all our axes, and our swords as well? I mislike the way they clank and rattle as we ride. We'd travel faster without them, straight to hell's door. Does it rain in hell, I wonder? Perhaps Craster would like a nice hat instead."
Jon smiled. "He wants an axe. And wine as well."
"See, the Old Bear's clever. If we get the wildling well and truly drunk, perhaps he'll only cut off an ear when he tries to slay us with that axe. I have two ears but only one head."
"Smallwood says Craster is a friend to the Watch."
"Do you know the difference between a wildling who's a friend to the Watch and one who's not?" asked the dour squire. "Our enemies leave our bodies for the crows and the wolves. Our friends bury us in secret graves. I wonder how long that bear's been nailed up on that gate, and what Craster had there before we came hallooing?"

 

Sure, Edd is droll and funny with his dry humor, but he is also a wise character. He tends to use his speeches to hint at something. Craster has just extorted Old Bear Jeor Mormont out of wine and an axe. Edd certainly portrays Craster as a greedy extortionist by suggesting whether he wants all of their axes and swords. He also suggests betrayal by Craster, turning the bear's gifts against him. The "Old Bear's skull" parallels the bear's skull on the gate. And while Edd uses a figure of speech of Craster burying an axe into a bear skull, he is also saying that an enemy pretending to be a friend kills you and then buries you in secret. Edd regards Craster as an enemy of Jeor Mormont and the Night's Watch, only posing to be a friend.

Later in the chapter, the next morning, a curious conversation follows between Dywen, Grenn and Edd about bears that Jon overhears. Dywen is a bit of bear fan, and once claimed to have seen a fifteen foot huge bear North of the Wall (which Jeor Mormont dismissed as big fish talk) while in the company of Grenn. It is this bear that Dywen refers to in the quoted conversation.

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Jon wolfed it down while listening to Dywen boast of having three of Craster's women during the Night.
"You did not," Grenn said, scowling. "I would have seen."
Dywen whapped him up alongside his ear with the back of his hand. "You? Seen? You're blind as Maester Aemon. You never even saw that bear."
"What bear? Was there a bear?"
"There's always a bear," declared Dolorous Edd in his usual tone of gloomy resignation. "One killed my brother when I was young. Afterward it wore his teeth around its neck on a leather thong. And they were good teeth too, better than mine. I've had nothing but trouble with my teeth."

First of all, with the meta-line that there is always a bear George tells the reader to look and hunt for bears in the books. They are important, they are involved in every plot arc.

But let us take a deeper look at Edd's story about his brother. One of the wards against bear power, instead of looking through brass rings, in real world bear-related folklore was wearing a belt of bear teeth. Edd reverses this bear-lore. A bear killed his brother, then put his brother's teeth on a thong and wore it around its neck. The men of the Night's Watch call each other brother. So, is Edd talking here about an actual sibling or a brother of the Night's Watch? Who else in that company of black brothers sitting around the breakfast fire has teeth issues? That would be Dywen, who has wooden replacement teeth. If Edd says he has trouble with his teeth, like Dywen has teeth issues, then he is allying himself with Dywen - that he respects and protects the Old Bear, like Dywen, his brother, as well as mistrusts Craster. This is Dywen's opinion about Craster.

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Dywen said Craster was a kinslayer, liar, raper, and craven, and hinted that he trafficked with slavers and demons. "And worse," the old forester would add, clacking his wooden teeth. "There's a cold smell to that one, there is."

 

Both Edd and Dywen mistrust Craster. Also, Dywen's nose is always right.

There is a link between Edd's quoted words, Dywen and axes. When Jon and Sam say their vows at the heart tree beyond the wall, in aGoT, they find two of Benjen's (wighted) men who attempt to assassinate Jeor Mormont.

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Squatting beside the dead man he had named Jafer Flowers, Ser Jaremy grasped his head by the scalp. The hair came out between his fingers, brittle as straw. The knight cursed and shoved at the face with the heel of his hand. A great gash in the side of the corpse's neck opened like a mouth, crusted with dried blood. Only a few ropes of pale tendon still attached the head to the neck. "This was done with an axe."
"Aye," muttered Dywen, the old forester. "Belike the axe that Othor carried, m'lord." (aGoT, Jon VII)

 

Since the axe is missing, nor is there any sign of blood on the location, Ser Jaremy Rikker and Dywen conclude they were murdered somewhere else. Indeed, Sam points out that they are dead for a longer while, since their blood is not fresh anymore. Dywen then suggests someone transported them there.

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Dywen sucked at his wooden teeth. "Might be they didn't die here. Might be someone brought 'em and left 'em for us. A warning, as like." The old forester peered down suspiciously. "And might be I'm a fool, but I don't know that Othor never had no blue eyes afore."
Ser Jaremy looked startled. "Neither did Flowers," he blurted, turning to stare at the dead man.

 

Since they turn out to be wights who can walk, the reader dismisses Dywen's literal suggestion here. Wights can walk on their own. Dogs and horses are terrified from Othor's and Jafer's wighted corpses, which explains why most animals stay clear of them and no scavenger has gnawed on them. Except Ghost did bite one of the hands off. At Bloodraven's cave both Summer and the normal wolves feed on wights, and so do ravens. Even so, while it is clear that Jafer and Othor were not killed on that location, the black dusty blood, black hands, white skin do not prove they were killed a long time ago at all. They might actually only be wights for a few days, rather than months. In any case, hungry predators must have been prowling when Jafer and Othor zombied themselves to the Wall, since the wighting of the animals by the Others would have been a gradual process, and surely a snow bear or other huge predators at least would try a bite.

At the very least, Dywen's remark suggests that Craster may have helped the Others with more than baby sons. There is a theory on reddit that goes deeper into Craster's lies, reconstructs the likely events preceding the prologue and what the Others may be after, which I certainly recommend as a read: a cold death in the snow - the killing of a ranger.

Edd does not just warn Jon that Craster is an enemy of Jeor and how brothers of the Night's Watch need to protect the Old Bear at present. When he points at the bear skull at the gate, he hints that he suspects Craster has betrayed them before - Waymar Royce and Benjen.

Jon realizes that Craster is a liar when Gilly mentions having seen Others or wights, which contradicts Craster's denial regarding wights (sort of) after Mormont reveals the fate of Jafer and Othor to him. Let us follow that axe around, shall we?

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The woman's mouth hung open, a wet pink cave, but Craster only gave a snort. "We've had no such troubles here . . . and I'll thank you not to tell such evil tales under my roof. I'm a godly man, and the gods keep me safe. If wights come walking, I'll know how to send them back to their graves. Though I could use me a sharp new axe." He sent his wife scurrying with a slap on her leg and a shout of "More beer, and be quick about it."
"No trouble from the dead," Jarmen Buckwell said, ...
...[snip]...
"The cold gods," [Gilly] said. "The ones in the night. The white shadows."... [snip]..."Blue. As bright as blue stars, and as cold."
She has seen them, he thought. Craster lied. (aCoK, Jon III)

 

Well, Craster lies in a clever way. Even if he saw wights, they give him no trouble, because the Others keep him safe, for the moment. But how odd is it that Craster mentions wanting a sharp new axe in the same paragraph about the wight topic in answer to Jeor Mormont's story about Jafer and Othor, one of which at least was killed by an axe.

What does Craster need a new axe for? According to reports the forest is practically empty of game and animals. All the villages are empty as well, either wighted or with Mance Rayder at the Milkwater. And even if Mance tramples Craster's Keep, one axe will make little difference. It certainly is completely worthless against Others (unless it was made of dragonglass or dragonsteel). And what happened to his previous axe then?

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"Gared says they were chasing raiders. I told him, with a commander that green, best not catch 'em. Gared wasn't half-bad, for a crow. Had less ears than me, that one. The 'bite took 'em, same as mine." Craster laughed. "Now I hear he got no head neither. The 'bite do that too?"

Craster gave a shrug. "Happens I have better things to do than tend to the comings and goings of crows." He drank a pull of beer and set the cup aside. "Had no good southron wine up here for a bear's night. I could use me some wine, and a new axe. Mine's lost its bite, can't have that, I got me women to protect."

 

Craster's axe lost its bite, and earlier he refers to Gared's beheading and whether the 'bite did that too. So, axe, bite, and beheading as we saw done to Othor. Nor is it the first time that bite, steel and beheading goes hand in hand. George uses that phrase when Jon hacked at Othor in the Old Bear's room.

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Jon hacked at the corpse's neck, felt the steel bite deep and hard. (aGoT, Jon VII)

 

Mormont offers Craster an escort to the Wall for his safety. Keep that remark by Dywen of someone bringing Jafer and Othor to the location where they were found in the back of your mind. Now watch Mormont's pet raven. He does not just scream a word. He does something.

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"You are few here, and isolated," Mormont said. "If you like, I'll detail some men to escort you south to the Wall."
The raven seemed to like the notion. "Wall," it screamed, spreading black wings like a high collar behind Mormont's head.
Their host gave a nasty smile, showing a mouthful of broken brown teeth. "And what would we do there, serve you at supper? We're free folk here. Craster serves no man." (aCoK, Jon III)

 

Now how about that nice pet raven, spreading his wings behind a bear's skull and screaming "Wall". The raven's wings serve as a figurative wall behind Mormont's head. Checkhov's Old Bear skull on the wall? That makes for a 3rd reference of a bear skull on a wall/pole. Also, did Craster escort Jafer and Othor to the Wall, which resulted in an assassination attempt on the Old Bear?

Remember how Craster mentioned wine before? The wine and serving are more of George's callbacks to the wight chapter in aGoT: Jon was to serve Jeor wine, and Jon attacked Alliser Thorne during supper.

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[The Old Bear] was seated by the window, reading a letter. "Bring me a cup of wine, and pour one for yourself."...[snip]..."I told you to sit," Mormont grumbled. "Sit," the raven screamed. "And have a drink, damn you. That's a command, Snow."...[snip]..."Lord Eddard has been imprisoned. He is charged with treason. It is said he plotted with Robert's brothers to deny the throne to Prince Joffrey." (aGoT, Jon VII)

 

Craster's choice of words are uncannily precise references to the whole chapter. And he seems to enjoy it too. It is almost as if he had eyes and ears himself in that chapter of aGoT. Now, I am not actually saying that Craster actually was a witness to it all through some magical means. But George certainly references it over and over. He is referencing the wight assassination chapter in aGoT with the chapter of Craster's Keep in wording over and over.

It certainly makes Old Mormont's assertion about Jon's uncle one full of dark irony. (wink wink)

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"Your uncle could tell you of the times Craster's Keep made the difference between life and death for our rangers."

 

The last time, it probably meant "death". And what exactly did Craster mean when he said he never missed Benjen, hmmm? As in he killed him with one sure stroke?

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"I've not seen Benjen Stark for three years," he was telling Mormont. "And if truth be told, I never once missed him."

 

The Ram

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Thoren Smallwood swore that Craster was a friend to the Watch, despite his unsavory reputation. "The man's half-mad, I won't deny it," he'd told the Old Bear, "but you'd be the same if you'd spent your life in this cursed wood. Even so, he's never turned a ranger away from his fire, nor does he love Mance Rayder. He'll give us good counsel."

 

Thoren Smallwood has taken over Benjen's duties, since Benjen's disappearance, and he is convinced that Craster is a friend to the Watch. But the hints about axes, the bite and bear skulls suggest he is the opposite. What did Dywen do in the breakfast scene? He whapped Grenn on the ear, which is a reference to Craster. Here follows Jon's description of Craster in aCoK, as well as Samwell's in aSoS.

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Craster sat above the fire, the only man to enjoy his own chair. Even Lord Commander Mormont must seat himself on the common bench, with his raven muttering on his shoulder... [snip]...Craster's sheepskin jerkin and cloak of sewn skins made a shabby contrast, but around one thick wrist was a heavy ring that had the glint of gold. He looked to be a powerful man, though well into the winter of his days now, his mane of hair grey going to white. A flat nose and a drooping mouth gave him a cruel look, and one of his ears was missing. (aCoK, Jon III)

Craster was a thick man made thicker by the ragged smelly sheepskins he wore day and night. He had a broad flat nose, a mouth that drooped to one side, and a missing ear. And though his matted hair and tangled beard might be grey going white, his hard knuckly hands still looked strong enough to hurt...[snip]... Craster owned but one chair. He sat in it, clad in a sleeveless sheepskin jerkin. His thick arms were covered with white hair, and about one wrist was a twisted ring of gold. (aSoS, Samwell II)

 

 

Craster is missing an ear! Who else has an ear issue? Vargo Hoat, the Goat. Brienne bit Vargo's ear and it got infected. Craster lost his ear because of the 'bite (meaning frostbite).

Notice the emphasis on Craster wearing sheepskins, and how his arms are covered with white hair. If a character is a bear-character because he wears a bearskin, such as Tyrion, then a person wearing sheepskins is a sheep. What was the other skull hanging on the gate? A ram's. Both Craster and Vargo are ram-characters, since both a male goat and a male sheep are called ram. Even the rest of the description fits for a ram - broad flat nose, droopy moouth, and his hands sound more like short and stubby.

They are both greedy men. Greed is the key. They differ however on what they are greedy about. With his chain of golden coins, Vargo is greedy after matter - gold, sapphires and the largest castle in all of Westeros, Harrenhal. Craster is equally proud to be master of his own keep, sitting on the sole chair, but he wears only one golden ring around his arm and he does not care about his home being a leaky, muddy sheeppen or pigsty covered in layers of shit. Instead, Craster is sexually greedy, having nineteen wives.

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Dywen clacked his teeth some more. "Might be I do. Craster's got ten fingers and one cock, so he don't count but to eleven. He'd never miss a couple."
"How many wives does he have, truly?" Grenn asked.
"More'n you ever will, brother. Well, it's not so hard when you're breeding you own. There's your beast, Snow."

"Are you one of Craster's daughters?" [Jon] asked.
She put a hand over her belly. "Wife now."...[snip]..."I'll . . . I'll be your wife, if you like. My father, he's got nineteen now, one less won't hurt him none." (aCoK, Jon III)

 

The running joke is how Craster won't miss one of his wives, but they all know he would be able to count to nineteen and begrudges any man one of his.

I highlighted the last sentence Dywen says to Jon, referring to Ghost returning from his unsuccesful morning hunt. While it supposedly points to another context (Ghost), it is still very uncannily true about the sort of man Craster is. He looks human, but his nature is, well, beastly.

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Mormont to Jon: "Does Craster seem less than human to you?"
In half a hundred ways. "He gives his sons to the wood."

 

And I do not mean 'animal-like' here, because that would be insulting to animals, but The Beast. (Cue in the Number of the Beast. What? Grenn was asking for a number, no?) Satan or the Devil is pictured how? With a ram's head and a goat's legs. Who was this image based on? The Greek Pan. Pan was dualistic in nature: a hunter god and a virile pastoral god who fucked sheep, which is exactly the difference between Vargo and Craster. Pan's parentage was unclear (as is Craster's, we know even less of Vargo), and he was the sole god who managed to die (of the Greek Pantheon). And when Greek hunters had ill success on the hunt they would scourge his statue. So, Pan was the hunters' scapegoat for failure! There are also several legends that involve "hearing". One is about a competition between Pan's flute and Apollo's lyre. Except for King Midas, everybody else judges Apollo the winner. Because Midas has no "ear for music", Apollo changes his ears into that of a donkey's. Of course rams are not in fact part of the bear-hunt folklore, except for the proverbial 'scapegoats'. George made the scapegoat in an actual ram figure in the song, and fits these rams with other mythological rams.

Now, if Craster is a ram, then his children are lambs. Both Edd and Sam talk about food: Craster's children and lamb.

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"Lord Mormont's in the hall," [Dolorous Edd] announced. "He said for you to join him. Best leave the wolf outside, he looks hungry enough to eat one of Craster's children. Well, truth be told, I'm hungry enough to eat one of Craster's children, so long as he was served hot..."
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By the time the telling was done, it was dark outside and Sam was licking his fingers. "That was good, but now I'd like a leg of lamb. A whole leg, just for me, sauced with mint and honey and cloves. Did you see any lambs?"
"There was a sheepfold, but no sheep."
"How does he feed all his men?"
"I didn't see any men. Just Craster and his women and a few small girls. I wonder he's able to hold the place. His defenses were nothing to speak of, only a muddy dike..."
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"For the baby, not for me. If it's a girl, that's not so bad, she'll grow a few years and he'll marry her. But Nella says it's to be a boy, and she's had six and knows these things. He gives the boys to the gods. Come the white cold, he does, and of late it comes more often. That's why he started giving them sheep, even though he has a taste for mutton. Only now the sheep's gone too. Next it will be dogs, till . . ." She lowered her eyes and stroked her belly. (aCoK, Jon III)

 

So, basically, Edd is talking about wanting lamb, while Sam is talking about a leg of Gilly. And since Craster's children are lambs, he can offer sheep to the Others. As an aside, while an army of Ice Spiders may give many the creeps, what about a flock of murderous Ice Sheep? And in case you think that is ridiculous, you might want to read up on your Cupid & Psyche, where Psyche has to gather golden hairs of murderous and deadly sheep.

Guest Right

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"I'm a godly man, and the gods keep me safe."

 

This is something that Craster tends to claim often and loud about himself. His gods certainly are not the Old Gods though. Every wildling village has a weirwood tree, but there is not one within the vicinity of Craster's sheep hovel. No, his gods are the Others, necromancers that enslave the dead. Cue in wise Edd again:

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"Dywen now, he says we need to learn to ride dead horses, like the Others do. He claims it would save on feed. How much could a dead horse eat?" Edd laced himself back up. "Can't say I fancy the notion. Once they figure a way to work a dead horse, we'll be next. Likely I'll be the first too. 'Edd,' they'll say, 'dying's no excuse for lying down no more, so get on up and take this spear, you've got the watch tonight.' Well, I shouldn't be so gloomy. Might be I'll die before they work it out." (aSoS, Samwell II)

 

Meanwhile Craster enslaves his daughters to be his wives.

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Craster grabbed a passing woman by the wrist. "Tell him, wife. Tell the Lord Crow how well content we are."
The woman licked at thin lips. "This is our place. Craster keeps us safe. Better to die free than live a slave."
"Slave," muttered the raven.

 

Smart bird! He is right up there with the Bloodstone Emperor and the Night's King: aiding and abetting (and worshipping) necromancers, involved with black sorcery, enslaver, incest, rape, wife-beating, human sacrifice, ... Lying is one of his least crimes. He tramples about every belief of First Men, certainly wildling beliefs.

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Ygritte to Jon"Craster's blood is black, and he bears a heavy curse." (aSoS, Jon III)

But somehow the Night's Watch and readers think this man follows guest-right customs and would not anger the gods for breaking it. Hmm....

Well let us inspect Craster's application of guest-right, shall we? When Craster and Jeor finally sit down on the terms of the Night's Watch staying at Craster's, Craster expects the Night's Watch to want a roof and pigs. Mormont only confirms the roof. Craster offers one night, meat and beer for twenty. The Old Bear accepts only the roof for one night and offers Craster supplies (food and wine), plus one axe as a welcoming guest gift. How about that! Craster loses nothing, just space and gains food, drink and an axe. That is a mighty good bargain for Craster, who does not have two hundred men and horses aplenty tagging along in need of food. And Gilly mentions the next morning how Jeor also gave Craster a crossbow, which I take is Jeor's parting gift.

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"Might be that I could tell you where to seek Mance Rayder. If I had a mind." The brown smile again. "But we'll have time enough for that. You'll be wanting to sleep beneath my roof, belike, and eat me out of pigs."
"A roof would be most welcome, my lord," Mormont said. "We've had hard riding, and too much wet."
"Then you'll guest here for a night. No longer, I'm not that fond o' crows. The loft's for me and mine, but you'll have all the floor you like. I've meat and beer for twenty, no more. The rest o' your black crows can peck after their own corn."
"We've packed in our own supplies, my lord," said the Old Bear. "We should be pleased to share our food and wine."
Craster wiped his drooping mouth with the back of a hairy hand. "I'll taste your wine, Lord Crow, that I will. One more thing. Any man lays a hand on my wives, he loses the hand."
...[snip]...
Mormont beckoned [Jon] closer. "Send [Sam] here after he's eaten. Have him bring quill and parchment. And find Tollett as well. Tell him to bring my axe. A guest gift for our host."
...[snip]...
"Old Lord Crow, him with the talking bird, he gave Craster a crossbow worth a hundred rabbits." (aCoK, Jon III)

 

This is not a true guest-right custom though. It is guest-right standing on its head. The host should provide food, beverage, welcome gifts and departing gifts. But here, the guests end up providing the food, drink and gifts. George was very sly in revealing proper guest-right custom, certainly in relation to Craster. Guest right is often talked of, but the actual practice of it is revealed in steps, book by book:

• aGoT only affirms that guest-right is denied by the host laying bared steel on his lap (or table) in Bran IV.
• aCoK only confirms that a guest who eats solely his own food that he brought along is not bound to guest-right rules, per Jon's thought not to eat Craster's food, in Jon III.
• aSoS reveals that the host provides bread, salt (in butter, cheese or sausage) and wine at his table or board, calls them guests, and that the consummation of it by the guest seals the claim to guest-right in Catelyn VI. This is confirmed in Jon I when Jon ate chicken and bread and drank mead with Mance; for the parlay with the Lords Declarant at the Eyrie in aFfC, Alayne I; Prince Doran ensuring Balon is a protected guest in aDwD, the Watcher; when Lord Wyman Manderly offers the imprisoned Davos bread and "salt" and wine (which Davos refuses) in Davos IV.
• aFfC reveals that the person or side who unsheats his sword and threatens the other's life (verbally or physically) counts as breaking of guest-right, and lifts the protection, in Alayne I. When Lyn Corbray unsheats Lady Forlorn, challenges and threatens Petyr Baelish, his fellow Lords Declarant fold in shame and fear. Petyr Baelish makes it very  clear that he is within his right to arrest them as traitors after that and that they cannot fall back on claims of safe passage.
• aDwD reveals that guest-right ends with the host giving his guests a parting gift and send them on their merry way, with Lord Manderly doing exactly that, before he has the Freys killed.
• tWoW, Alayne I reveals that the host offers welcoming gifts at the feast before the start of the Tourney

So, guest-right is only invoked when it includes bread in combination with salted food and wine (or mead orbeer), given by the host to the guest, and consumed at the host's table or board. The display of bare steel either denies or ends guest-right protection, both towards the host and the guest.

Meanwhile, George uses Craster and Gilly's comments about guest-right in aCoK to misrepresent the custom to the reader, before we actually learn the truth of it in other arcs. If you go by Craster's words in Jon III of aCoK, you get the impression that guest-right is more about the host being protected against a guest's possible violence, and that having a roof over your head and be allowed to sit at a fire makes you bound to guest-right as well as protects you from harm by the host. That of course is complete rubbish, otherwise Catelyn would not have insisted on bread & salt at the Twins, before they were shown to their rooms.

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"Black brothers are sworn never to take wives, don't you know that? And we're guests in your father's hall besides."
"Not you," she said. "I watched. You never ate at his board, nor slept by his fire. He never gave you guest-right, so you're not bound to him." (aCoK, Jon III)

 

If you go by Gilly's words you would end up thinking that eating your own food and drinking your own wine at a man's board and table makes the host bound to his guest and the guest to his host, and his host's rules. But again that is rubbish. Why did Lord Wyman Manderly take all of his own food with him when he joined Lord Bolton in the first place? So, that he was free to conspire against his host and his host's guests.

We already know that Craster is despised by all other wildlings, seen as heavily cursed for his incest. Craster does not follow the Old Gods, nor the customs of First Men. Craster only cares about his guests believing themselves to be bound by guest-right insofar he feels secure they will not attempt to harm or insult him and his.To Craster it is some prerogative that he gives by calling people guests and allowing them to sleep at his fire, while they feel compelled not to harm him, even if nothing what is agreed on actually constitutes guest-right.

Now, in the morning, an hour before departure, we get even more guest-right reversal. Only after sleeping under his roof by his fire are the guests given Craster's food at his board, even though they are about to leave.

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The Old Bear sat at Craster's board, breaking his fast with the other officers on fried bread, bacon, and sheepgut sausage. Craster's new axe was on the table, its gold inlay gleaming faintly in the torchlight. Its owner was sprawled unconscious in the sleeping loft above, but the women were all up, moving about and serving...[snip]...Have you eaten? Craster serves plain fare, but filling."

 

So, we have Jeor eating bread and salted meat at Craster's board. That should finally establish guest-right. But then that axe lies on the same board, or table. Having the axe lie there, denies guest-right safety to Craster's guests. Meanwhile, Craster feels secure enough that his guests feel bound to their much-ado-guest-right and will not harm him for he sleeps at the loft, not even bothered one bit.

When we revisit Craster's Keep after the Fist with Samwell, we have this:

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They'd covered poor Bannen with a pile of furs and stoked the fire high, yet all he could say was, "I'm cold. Please. I'm so cold." Sam was trying to feed him onion broth, but he could not swallow. The broth dribbled over his lips and down his chin as fast as Sam could spoon it in...[snip]... About the hall, a ragged score of black brothers squatted on the floor or sat on rough-hewn benches, drinking cups of the same thin onion broth and gnawing on chunks of hardbread. (aSoS, Samwell II)

 

The men are only given meager onion broth by Craster, so meager that Bannen dies from starvation. You can eat, but be so underfed, that you still starve and die. This is the official medical conclusion why Chris McCandless died in his bus in the Alaskan wild: that though he did eat, he was so malnourished and underfed he gradually lost ability to search and find enough food, until he could not leave the bus at all anymore, and died.

Does giving onion broth to your guests establish guest-right? In combination with hardbread it does. However, guest-right does not just bind the guest to not harm his host, it also binds the host to make sure his guests do not come to harm. And does Craster do that? No.

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"That one's dead." Craster eyed the man with indifference as he worried at a sausage. "Be kinder to stick a knife in his chest than that spoon down his throat, you ask me."
"I don't recall as we did." Giant was no more than five feet tall—his true name was Bedwyck—but a fierce little man for all that. "Slayer, did you ask Craster for his counsel?"...[snip]..."Food and fire," Giant was saying, "that was all we asked of you. And you grudge us the food."
"Be glad I didn't grudge you fire too."

He had sausages for himself and his wives, he said, but none for the Watch. (aSoS, Samwell II)

 

He begrudges them food, lets his guests starve, and he suggest that one guest kills another guest with a blade. None of that is the behavior of a host who respects guest-right.

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"Bugger his wound." Dirk prodded the corpse with his foot. "His foot was hurt. I knew a man back in my village lost a foot. He lived to nine-and-forty."
"The cold," said Sam. "He was never warm."
"He was never fed," said Dirk. "Not proper. That bastard Craster starved him dead."

 

And yet, despite the hardbread and salt (assumed to be in the onion broth), it can be argued that though a cruel host, Craster is not breaking guest-right (not yet). I highlighted how the brothers had to eat the meager food on the floor and seated on benches, without actually eating at his board or table. So, they ate his meager fare, were starved, but denied a place at his table. Hence there is not actual guest-right established, yet again. And we know this, because his table is only actually installed later in the chapter.

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His wives and daughters dragged out the benches and the long log tables, and cooked and served as well.

 

When Craster learns that the men of the Night's Watch will leave the next day, he has his wives roast the horses of the Night's Watch (their food) that were slaughtered because they were too weak to go on. He also has a table set out and benches, and two loaves of bread of his larder handed out for a feast. The host's bread being eaten at his table while seated by him is what invokes guest-right properly. It is the first and only time we witness the proper custom being performed.

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"All the same, I'll see you off proper, with a feast. Well, a feed. My wives can roast them horses you slaughtered, and I'll find some beer and bread."

Craster owned but one chair...[snip]...Lord Commander Mormont took the place at the top of the bench to his right, while the brothers crowded in knee to knee; a dozen remained outside to guard the gate and tend the fires....[snip]...When Craster's wives brought onions, he seized one eagerly...[snip]... There was bread as well, but only two loaves. When Ulmer asked for more, the woman only shook her head. That was when the trouble started.
"Two loaves?" Clubfoot Karl complained from down the bench. "How stupid are you women? We need more bread than this!"...[snip]..."Then stuff bread in your ears, old man." Clubfoot Karl pushed back from the table. "Or did you swallow your bloody crumb already?"

 

So, they are all seated at Craster's table, had a slice or crumb of bread, a slosh of beer, and salt with their own horsemeat. Clubfoot Karl may complain all he likes about the amount of bread, but simply a nibble (per Catelyn at the Twins) is enough to establish guest-right. Hence, at this point both Craster and the men of the Night's Watch are bound by guest-right, finally.

Though insults fly around, nobody makes a verbal threat nor physical one to Craster or Mormont. The person who breaks or ends guest-right is Craster himself. He draws his axe, waves it around and vaults to assault his guests, and only then the mutineers' knives are drawn.

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. . . but Craster stood, and his axe was in his hand. The big black steel axe that Mormont had given him as a guest gift. "No," he growled. "You'll not sit. No one who calls me niggard will sleep beneath my roof nor eat at my board. Out with you, cripple. And you and you and you." He jabbed the head of the axe toward Dirk and Garth and Garth in turn. "Go sleep in the cold with empty bellies, the lot o' you, or . . ." .

"Who calls me bastard?" Craster roared, sweeping platter and meat and wine cups from the table with his left hand while lifting the axe with his right...[snip]...Craster moved quicker than Sam would have believed possible, vaulting across the table with axe in hand. A woman screamed, Garth Greenaway and Orphan Oss drew knives, Karl stumbled back and tripped over Ser Byam lying wounded on the floor. One instant Craster was coming after him spitting curses. The next he was spitting blood. Dirk had grabbed him by the hair, yanked his head back, and opened his throat ear to ear with one long slash.

 

 

No, Craster does not care about guest-right, at least not towards his guests. Craster breaks guest-right, and turns the bear's gift against the guests, not in defense, not because he is threatened, but because he is insulted. He very much verbally denies these men guest-right. So, while Dirk is a murderer when he slits Craster's throat, slaughters him like a ram by opening his throat from ear to to ear with one long slash, he did not break guest-right. (And no, I'm not saying Dirk, Karl, Ollo, the Garths are good persons, only that they did not break guest-right)

When Mormont cries foul on his men for murdering the host, after the host himself already waved an axe, after Craster explicitly denied certain people guest-right and attempted to assault Karl with the axe, then Mormont's assertion is wrong. People who are told by the host to not be any guests do not break guest-right when they murder him.

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The Lord Commander stood over Craster's corpse, dark with anger. "The gods will curse us," he cried. "There is no crime so foul as for a guest to bring murder into a man's hall. By all the laws of the hearth, we—"

 

 As for Sam - he is from the Reach, southron and hardly knows the ins and outs of this First Man custom.

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We are guests, Sam reminded himself. Gilly is his. His daughter, his wife. His roof, his rule.

 

They were guests, but not bound to guest-right, not until the feast, and it was over when Craster pulled out the axe and broke guest-right himself. And even if you are inclined to take guest-right in its broadest sense as Sam and Mormont does, Craster would have murdered a man under his own roof over an insult while he was one man against forty, if Dirk had not stepped in.

Game

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The white wolf hunted well away from the line of march, but he was not having much better fortune than the foragers Smallwood sent out after game. The woods were as empty as the villages, Dywen had told him one night around the fire. "We're a large party," Jon had said. "The game's probably been frightened away by all the noise we make on the march."
"Frightened away by something, no doubt," Dywen said. (aCoK, Jon II)

Mormont leaned forward. "Every village we have passed has been abandoned. Yours are the first living faces we've seen since we left the Wall. The people are gone . . . whether dead, fled, or taken, I could not say. The animals as well. Nothing is left. (aCoK, Jon III)

 

The villagers might have packed up and left to meet with Mance Rayder, but the forest game is another matter. Something is going very wrong here and it should involve bears, who are guardians of the forest game as well as providers of it. A healthy forest has bears denning and roaming free. A forest without bears (and wolves and beavers) will eventually become lifeless. Only two "players" North of the Wall are in posession of a bear - Craster has recently eaten a bear (and Old Bear Mormont for a day and a night), the Others have wighted a snow bear. Craster is the sole one who is still well fed, with pigs and rabbits running around, and food aplenty in a secret larder... for the moment. Just those two bear elements reinforce a bargain was struck between Craster and the Others, from which Craster benefited, and empties the forest.

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"The boy's brothers," said the old woman on the left. "Craster's sons. The white cold's rising out there, crow. I can feel it in my bones. These poor old bones don't lie. They'll be here soon, the sons." (aSoS, Samwell II)

 

Craster gives his sons to the Others. Since there are no witness reports of crawling baby wights, Craster's sons are indeed turned into Others. By helping the Others to multiply, they leave him alone.

In aSoS, Craster claims he is safe, but for how much longer would he have been safe? The more Others there are, the emptier the forest is, and the more they come calling at Craster's for sons. Craster is greedy. But the Others are greedier. He has already been put into a position where he has to sacrifice food - all his sheep are gone in aCoK, no dog is mentioned anymore in aSoS, nor any pigs. It seems he has been given dogs and pigs to Others. He is indeed getting down on food. That troubles him so much that Craster actually smiles when he has a son. For a man who does not generally want sons, Craster sounds very relieved when Gilly births a son, and of course very reluctant to give him up to be brought up with the Night's Watch.

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The Old Bear broke off as Craster emerged from between the deerhide flaps of his door. The wildling smiled, revealing a mouth of brown rotten teeth. "I have a son."
"Son," cawed Mormont's raven. "Son, son, son." (aSoS, Samwell II)

 

The Secret Larder

Now that I have presented enough evidence about Craster's character, including the fact that Craster does not care one twit about guest-right, nor fears attempting to murder a man of the Night's Watch while he is in the obvious minority, I will present the evidence that hints that Craster is also a cannibal.

While the Night's Watch has to live on onion broth (and the onions appear half rotten besides), Craster and his wives live on "pig" sausages.

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They all needed more food. The men had been grumbling for days. Clubfoot Karl kept saying how Craster had to have a hidden larder, and Garth of Oldtown had begun to echo him, when he was out of the Lord Commander's hearing. Sam had thought of begging for something more nourishing for the wounded men at least, but he did not have the courage.

Craster gnawed on his hard black sausage. (aSoS, Samwell II)

 

Well, Craster did have pigs running around before, so nothing strange there. And he had sheep-sausages during the first visit as well. And yet...

When the men of the Night's Watch hold a burning funeral for Bannen, George reminds us that human flesh tastes like pork.

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When he looked at the fire, he thought he saw Bannen sitting up, his hands coiling into fists as if to fight off the flames that were consuming him, but it was only for an instant, before the swirling smoke hid all. The worst thing was the smell, though. If it had been a foul unpleasant smell he might have stood it, but his burning brother smelled so much like roast pork that Sam's mouth began to water, and that was so horrible that as soon as the bird squawked "Ended" he ran behind the hall to throw up in the ditch.

 

A link is established between pork and humans, like in the aCoK chapter Jon III a link was made between lamb and Craster's children. But notice also the allusion that dead Bannen sits up and attempts to fight off the flames. It does not matter whether Bannen had truly become a wight or that Sam is just hallucinating it. The important point is that in one paragraph a meta-link is created between wights and pork. If Sam's vision of dead Bannen sitting up was true it shows that even if Others send no pre-existing wights to attack Craster, the wighting power or magic has grown strong enough that any dead person automatically becomes a wight after a short while. Neither Craster nor the Others can prevent that from happening if a man dies on his floor. If this is the case then it is understandable why Craster is bitching about men dying on his floor.

That pork-dead human flesh is repeated a second time, almost half a page later, when Edd checks on Samwell and takes a piss in the meantime at the ditch. Where Samwell's paragraph is about the smell, Edd actually talks of eating human flesh.

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"Never knew Bannen could smell so good." Edd's tone was as morose as ever. "I had half a mind to carve a slice off him. If we had some applesauce, I might have done it. Pork's always best with applesauce, I find." Edd undid his laces and pulled out his cock. "You best not die, Sam, or I fear I might succumb. There's bound to be more crackling on you than Bannen ever had, and I never could resist a bit of crackling." He sighed as his piss arched out, yellow and steaming.

 

Since Edd talked of eating Craster's children in the other Craster chapter in aCoK, it is likely that Edd's words parallels more than one scene in aCoK. The morning that Jon woke up outside Craster's, he smelled bacon and made his morning water, before wolfing down his breakfast. The breakfast Jon ate was fare of the Night's Watch, not Craster's, and so his bacon was sure to be true bacon.

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Someone had gotten a fire started; he could smell woodsmoke drifting through the trees, and the smoky scent of bacon...[snip]...A few yards away he made water into a frozen bush, his piss steaming in the cold air and melting the ice wherever it fell...[snip]...Grenn and Dywen were among the brothers who had gathered round the fire. Hake handed Jon a hollow heel of bread filled with burnt bacon and chunks of salt fish warmed in bacon grease. He wolfed it down while listening to Dywen boast of having three of Craster's women during the night. (aCoK, Jon III)

 

Then, Jon seeks out Mormont and finds him having Craster's breakfast. What is the breakfast? Bread, "bacon" and sheepgut sausage. And we have that Chekhov axe lying in full sight too. I already quoted parts of that scene in the gues-right section, but I will quote a larger part of it here.

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"Ignore that wretched beggar bird, Jon, it's just had half my bacon." The Old Bear sat at Craster's board, breaking his fast with the other officers on fried bread, bacon, and sheepgut sausage. Craster's new axe was on the table, its gold inlay gleaming faintly in the torchlight...[snip]...Have you eaten? Craster serves plain fare, but filling."
I will not eat Craster's food, he decided suddenly. "I broke my fast with the men, my lord." Jon shooed the raven off Longclaw. The bird hopped back to Mormont's shoulder, where it promptly shat. "You might have done that on Snow instead of saving it for me," the Old Bear grumbled. The raven quorked.

 

Thrice we have a scene about bacon (smell or sight) combined with someone either peeing or shitting. Mormont's raven cannot pee, only shit. Ravens do eat human corpses, so a raven would know what a human tastes like. Mormont's raven is said to be more of a fan of vegetarian grub - fruit and corn. However, that morning it ate half of the Old Bear's bacon. Did the raven want to make sure what the bacon's nature truly was?

Jon decides not to eat Craster's food. At the time, we are led to believe this is for guest-right pruposes. But as I pointed out, Craster's axe on the table is a veiled denial of guest-right to anyone eating his fare. More,  Jon never returned to Craster's and never will, since Craster is dead now. Jon not eating Craster's food thus has no significance with regards to preventing Jon from breaking guest-right. It can only have significance in the sense that he never ate Craster's "filling fare". Is it possible that the bacon served that morning, was not true bacon at all, but from human origin? Perhaps the raven shat on Mormont, because Mormont had eaten human flesh, said to be pork?

It would not be the only scene in the series where people end up eating human flesh, believing it to be pork. Bran, Jojen, Meera and Hodor also eat "pork" after Coldhands returned with meat to the village's hall in aDwD. Most readers though would figure out that what Meera, Jojen and Bran eat is not the pig-animal, but a pig of a mutineer and deserter of the Night's Watch, since Coldhands had just killed several of the mutineers, and Bran had just skinchanged Summer who ate the remains of a killed mutineer.

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His nose twitched to the smell of roasting meat. And then the forest fell away, and he was back in the longhall again, back in his broken body, staring at a fire. Meera Reed was turning a chunk of raw red flesh above the flames, letting it char and spit. "Just in time," she said. Bran rubbed his eyes with the heel of his hand and wriggled backwards against the wall to sit. "You almost slept through supper. The ranger found a sow."
Behind her, Hodor was tearing eagerly at a chunk of hot charred flesh as blood and grease ran down into his beard. Wisps of smoke rose from between his fingers. "Hodor," he muttered between bites, "hodor, hodor." His sword lay on the earthen floor beside him. Jojen Reed nipped at his own joint with small bites, chewing each chunk of meat a dozen times before swallowing. The ranger killed a pig. (aDwD, Bran I)

 

When the brothers of the Night's Watch begin to speak aloud of what they think Craster has in his secret larder, they list more than what I quoted below, including oats, corn, barley, dried berries, cabbages and pine nuts, and mutton. But I only quoted what was pork related and the apples to make the accompanying applesauce for Edd. If Craster is down to eating his "pork" sausages though, the men's fantasy is getting overheated. The sheep have been given to the Others, and by the time we return there with Sam we see neither dog nor pig running around. Those probably were also given to Craster's gods. I do not think Craster's secret larder is as richly filled as the men of the Night's Watch believe it is.

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"Hams," Garth of Oldtown said, in a reverent voice. "There were pigs, last time we come. I bet he's got hams hid someplace. Smoked and salted hams, and bacon too."
"Sausage," said Dirk. "Them long black ones, they're like rocks, they keep for years. I bet he's got a hundred hanging in some cellar."
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"Apples," said Garth of Greenaway. "Barrels and barrels of crisp autumn apples. There are apple trees out there, I saw 'em." (aSoS, Samwell II)

 

Gilly's mother and sisters give Samwell and Gilly food before they make their escape from Craster's Keep and make for the Wall. At the wildling village with the weirwood tree that Sam hopes is Whitetree, but is not, only a few black sausages are left. We then get a description on how to eat them, by Sam, and what they taste like.

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Nothing was left but a few black sausages, as hard as wood. Sam sawed off a few thin slices for each of them. The effort made his wrist ache, but he was hungry enough to persist. If you chewed the slices long enough they softened up, and tasted good. Craster's wives seasoned them with garlic.(aSoS, Samwell III)

 

You may argue that the black sausages are hard because of the cold, but that would not make them woody. And Craster needed to gnaw and chew and worry on his black sausages inside the keep as well. And if they wished, Sam or Gilly could keep the sausages from freezing. The woodiness, the hardiness and the blackness of the sausages suggest they are made of the blood from wights.

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[Sam] looked as though he was going to be sick. "This man … look at the wrist, it's all … crusty … dry … like …"
Jon saw at once what Sam meant. He could see the torn veins in the dead man's wrist, iron worms in the pale flesh. His blood was a black dust. (aGoT, Jon VII)

 

Admittedly I call them "pork" sausages in the beginning. It is never actually spelled out what they are made of. They are simply called black sausages, which are blood sausages. We just don't know whose or which blood. It's even more peculiar that Sam, who likes to eat, refrains from making any further reference to the black sausage source. Sam says they taste good, and that they are seasoned with garlic. For a man who loves food and loves talking of food, "good" is peculiarly non-descript. I think this even furthers the idea that they are of a source that Sam does not wish to identify (or he'd retch). And that GRRM wishes to leave it out in the open what they truly are.

Far earlier, I quoted, well, a lot of quotes. So, I will repeat the crucial quotes together with others I have not included before. I think you will see the picture.

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Craster to Jeor Mormont: If wights come walking, I'll know how to send them back to their graves. Though I could use me a sharp new axe.

Dolorous Edd to Jon: Our enemies leave our bodies for the crows and the wolves. Our friends bury us in secret graves. (aCoK, Jon III)

Dirk speared a chunk of horsemeat. "Aye. So you admit you got a secret larder. How else to make it through a winter?"

"The blackest crows are down in the cellar, gorging," said the old woman on the left, "or up in the loft with the young ones. They'll be back soon, though." (aSoS, Samwell II)

 

Obviously those blackest crows, the mutineers, would not come across wights or body parts in the cellar, because sausage is all that is left of those rangers. The sausages are a wight's secret grave. Bran's last chapter in aDwD shows us that wights can be eaten, and that bones or limbs cease to be animated once the bone marrow is gotten into.

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Summer dug up a severed arm, black and covered with hoarfrost, its fingers opening and closing as it pulled itself across the frozen snow. There was still enough meat on it to fill his empty belly, and after that was done he cracked the arm bones for the marrow. Only then did the arm remember it was dead.(aDwD, Bran III)

 

The above description suggest that once meat is separated from the bones, as is the blood (including the marrow), wights cease to move. The sole alternative to send a wight to his grave, aside from burning it, is breaking every bone of its body. No wonder that Craster's axe lost its bite and he needed a new one to replace his own and Othor's. Well, that and a maul.

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Jon had to laugh. "Craster's one man. We're two hundred. I doubt he'll murder anyone."
"You cheer me," said Edd, sounding utterly morose. "And besides, there's much to be said for a good sharp axe. I'd hate to be murdered with a maul. I saw a man hit in the brow with a maul once. Scarce split the skin at all, but his head turned mushy and swelled up big as a gourd, only purply-red. A comely man, but he died ugly. It's good that we're not giving them mauls." (aCoK, Jon III)

 

Ygritte would say, "Oh, you know nothing, Jon Snow."

The axe murderer

Craster tried to murder a man with an axe, while forty men sat eating at his table. Would Craster hesitate to attack a man by himself if said ranger witnessed what gods Craster sacrificed his sons to, or attempted to interfere? Would Craster hesitate attacking one or two, after six rangers split up and went outside in search for their missing brother? He would not. Because of the actual little information we have, this is the highly speculative section of the essay, and by no means conclusive.

So, we have Jafer being killed with an axe that hit him in the side of his neck and near took his head off. Dywen suggested it might be Othor’s axe, and since Dywen’s suggestions and observations often seem to be the correct ones, I think we should follow Dywen’s hint and that we should at least conclude that Jafer was indeed killed by Othor’s axe. But who wielded Othor’s axe?

To take a man’s head near off and kill him with one axe blow, especially standing, moving about and trying to defend himself seems a hard thing to do. Just remember how many times Theon had to strike three times with the axe to cut Harlen’s head off, and Harlen was hunched down and holding his head still.

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Theon had to take the axe himself or look a weakling. His hands were sweating, so the shaft twisted in his grip as he swung and the first blow landed between Farlen’s shoulders. It took three more cuts to hack through all that bone and muscle and sever the head from the body, and afterward he was sick, remembering all the times they’d sat over a cup of mead talking of hounds and hunting. (aCoK, Theon V)

 

That the axe wound was taken to the side of the neck, suggests that Jafer was seated or hunched down, and caught unawares. The stroke going so deep not only means force, but that Jafer was holding his head still in this seated position, staring or watching something, and was approached silently until almost the last moment. Then he suddenly looked up to regard his murderer in the eye as the axe fell. Gravity helped, and Jafer looking up at that moment has the axe land in the side of his neck. (courtesy to Darkstream for the discussion)

Othor is called a big man, and because of the Will-Waymar scene in the prologue it is tempting to imagine a similar scenario, where Othor had become a wight and caught Jafer hiding and watching from the Others. It was Othor’s axe, thus we are inclinded to believe Othor wielded it after becoming a wight, taking Jafer by surprise. However, George is very skilled in setting up a suggestive parallel that later turns out to be false: Lysa claims Cersei poisoned Jon Arryn, Jaime threw Bran out of the tower and Littlefinger claims the Valyrian Steel dagger used to assassinate Bran. Voila it ought to be clear as day who, why and how. Just follow Occam’s Razor. But then it turns out that Lysa murdered her husband herself, that the dagger was Robert’s and that Joffrey gave it to the catspaw, because Joffrey thought to do what his father had said would be a mercy in a by-the-by.  Occam’s Razor does not tend to apply.

Furthermore, wights rarely use weapons at all. Wights kill mostly with their hands – rip or claw a head off or disembowel someone. Their preferred method to kill humans is to strangle them and rip the head off.

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The broken sword fell from nerveless fingers. Will closed his eyes to pray. Long, elegant hands brushed his cheek, then tightened around his throat. They were gloved in the finest moleskin and sticky with blood, yet the touch was icy cold. (aGoT, Prologue)

Ghost leapt. Man and wolf went down together with neither scream nor snarl, rolling, smashing into a chair, knocking over a table laden with papers…[snip]…[Jon] glimpsed black hands buried in white fur, swollen dark fingers tightening around his direwolf’s throat. Ghost was twisting and snapping, legs flailing in the air, but he could not break free. (aGoT, Jon VII, courtesy Darkstream)

[Maslin] was still shrieking for quarter as the wight lifted him in the air by the throat and near ripped the head off him. (aSoS, Samwell I)

His fumbling fingers finally found the dagger, but when he slammed it up into the wight’s belly the point skidded off the iron links, and the blade went spinning from Sam’s hand. Small Paul’s fingers tightened inexorably, and began to twist. He’s going to rip my head off, Sam thought in despair…[snip]… The wights were all around her. There were a dozen of them, a score, more . . . some had been wildlings once, and still wore skins and hides . . . but more had been his brothers. Sam saw Lark the Sisterman, Softfoot, Ryles. The wen on Chett’s neck was black, his boils covered with a thin film of ice. And that one looked like Hake, though it was hard to know for certain with half his head missing. They had torn the poor garron apart, and were pulling out her entrails with dripping red hands. (aSoS, Samwell II)

That was when his shout became a scream. Bran filled a fist with snow and threw it, but the wight did not so much as blink. A black hand fumbled at his face, another at his belly. Its fingers felt like iron. He’s going to pull my guts out…[snip]…”HODOR!” he bellowed, and slashed again. This time he took the wight’s head off at the neck, and for half a moment he exulted … until a pair of dead hands came groping blindly for his throat. (aDwD, Bran II)

 

 

The only time we hear of a weapon being used by a wight is when headless Jafer took out Jaremy’s dagger and planted it in Jaremy Rykker’s bowels (courtesy MacGregor of the North). Bowels is a typical targeted area for a wight. The dagger seems to have been a lucky draw or grasp during the fight by the headless wight and some fleeting memory what to do with it once it felt the dagger in its hands.

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The other wight, the one-handed thing that had once been a ranger named Jafer Flowers, had also been destroyed, cut near to pieces by a dozen swords … but not before it had slain Ser Jaremy Rykker and four other men. Ser Jaremy had finished the job of hacking its head off, yet had died all the same when the headless corpse pulled his own dagger from its sheath and buried it in his bowels. (aGoT, Jon VIII)

 

To become a wight, a man first has to die, and would fall to the ground for a while. Let us imagine that Othor died with his axe in his possession, he dies and sags down or drops, and the axe … would slip out of his hands. By the time Othor gets back up as a wight, he would not search or look for his axe, walk a distance with it and then take someone’s head off. No, he would just get up, leave the axe lying on the forest floor, and try to strangle the first man he comes across. The axe would be forgotten. And indeed, Othor is not carrying his axe with him when they find him. I therefore am inclined to dismiss Othor as the man who killed Jafer with Othor’s axe. You might argue rigor mortis and a gripping reflex in reaction to a violent death (and Othor's death certainly would have been violent) and therefore held on to his axe. Well, then he seems to be the sole exception of the hundred brothers at the Fist who also died immensely violent deaths and did not hold on to their weapon.

Instead we get another parallel. How does Craster acquire Mormont’s axe? It was given to him as a “guest gift” by Jeor. Now imagine Benjen’s rangers arriving at Craster’s searching for Waymar. They came upon abandoned wildling village after wildling village. Craster does his usual, “Meh, I might know something, but yadayadayada. I could use me a new sharp axe.” And Othor’s axe becomes Craster’s axe to buy the informaton from him. That night, Craster has a son and he goes out to sacrifice it to the Others. Jafer Flowers follows him and witnesses who Craster’s gods are. And then he hears something, looks up, and Crasters lets Othor’s axe drop. Craster is not a big man. But when Jafer is seated or hunched down that matters little. What matters is that he has force, is used to butchering animals, and gravity does the rest. It would certainly fit George’s less straightforward murder scenario’s far better.

So, what about Othor then? Here is the description of Othor’s wounds:

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Jon remembered Othor; he had been the one bellowing the bawdy song as the rangers rode out. His singing days were done. His flesh was blanched white as milk, everywhere but his hands. His hands were black like Jafer’s. Blossoms of hard cracked blood decorated the mortal wounds that covered him like a rash, breast and groin and throat. Yet his eyes were still open. They stared up at the sky, blue as sapphires.(aGoT, Jon VII)

 

Nobody makes an explicit statement of the type of weapon used on Othor, or whether a weapon was even used it at all. All that we positively know is that they were all three mortal wounds, pierced skin and cover him like a rash. The pierced skin mention at least excludes a maul or hammer.

That said, they consider it the butchery work of armed men. Rykker thinks and says it was wildling axes (take note of the fact he talks of “axes”, not “axe”) right after Jon observes Othor’s corpse.

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Ser Jaremy stood. “The Wildlings have axes too.”
Mormont rounded on him. “So you believe this is Mance Rayder’s work? This close to the Wall?”
“Who else, my lord?”

 

Cue in the reader thinking, “The Others!” That seems a logical conclusion since the reader does not even know Craster. Craster is not mentioned in aGoT. As reader we are led to believe that it was either Mance’s wildlings or the Others. And since Othor and Jafer both turn out to be wights, it seems a sure conclusion that it was the work of Others, and we never question it when later we are introduced to our first wildling who is actually nothing like Mance’s wildlings. Since Othor has multiple wounds, we think a similar scenario played out as in the prologue: “Othor was struck down by multiple Others, became a wight and killed Jafer with his axe. Occam’s Razor!” But as I pointed out, there is an issue with Othor lumbering around as a wight with an axe.

We also have pointers that Othor is not like Waymar. Waymar was of noble birth, with a rich sable cloak and carrying a sword. One Other dueled with Waymar, while the rest of the Others watched curiously. When his sword shatters, they all make a sound that Will thinks is laughter, and they all move in on Waymar and slash him a dozen times with their pale crystalline swords.

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The watchers moved forward together, as if some signal had been given. Swords rose and fell, all in a deathly silence. It was cold butchery. The pale blades sliced through ringmail as if it were silk….[snip]… Royce’s body lay facedown in the snow, one arm outflung. The thick sable cloak had been slashed in a dozen places. Lying dead like that, you saw how young he was. A boy…[snip]… Will rose. Ser Waymar Royce stood over him. His fine clothes were a tatter, his face a ruin. A shard from his sword transfixed the blind white pupil of his left eye. (aGoT, Prologue)

 

Do we see even anything remotely like that with Othor? Jeor calls the result of Jafer and Othor’s corpses butchery, but if those blades slice through ringmail and thick clothes as if it all was silk, then they would also slice through flesh and bone as if it were butter. Surely, even if done by one or two Others, the result would be noted by Jon, Rykker, Dywen and Jeor. But they do not. And yes, I am arguing absence of evidence. And then we have Samwell witness how an Other kills Small Paul while they are on the run from the Fist.

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The wights had been slow clumsy things, but the Other was light as snow on the wind. It slid away from Paul’s axe, armor rippling, and its crystal sword twisted and spun and slipped between the iron rings of Paul’s mail, through leather and wool and bone and flesh. It came out his back with a hissssssssssss and Sam heard Paul say, “Oh,” as he lost the axe. Impaled, his blood smoking around the sword, the big man tried to reach his killer with his hands and almost had before he fell. The weight of him tore the strange pale sword from the Other’s grip.(aSoS, Samwell I)

 

Now, surely, Rykker, Dywen and Jeor and Jon would notice and remark on it if Othor had wounds like that of Small Paul. Ser Jaremy Rykker is a knight. Jeor was a lord once. Jon fights with a sword. And Dywen likes making correct observations. These men would recognize a sword wound from an axe wound. Instead, they only mention axes. When Jeor asks Ser Jaremy how they were killed, Jaremy first says, “This was done by an axe,” about Jafer’s corpse. After Jon observes Othor’s body, Jaremy says, “The wildlings have axes too,” certainly implying to Jeor, Dywen and Jon that Othor’s wounds were also caused by an axe, and nobody disagrees with him about the type of weapon. Jeor only disagrees about it being Mance and so close to the Wall. I therefore think it is safe to conclude that Othor’s wounds look to the witnesses as axe wounds, not silk slicing swords. And Others do not use axes.

Aside from the throat, the chest and groin are not areas that are targeted by wights, and they usually focus on one area and keep going for that, even if it is a dagger they accidentally happen to grab. So, we can dismiss wights having killed Othor too. Furthermore, these were all wounds taken in frontal confrontation, and the groin area suggests that Othor was standing upright at the time. The complete picture implies he faced one combattant. For that combattant to hit him in the chest and groin and neck, he had to be quick. I therefore conclude that Othor was killed by a man, and that man would have been Craster.

Also, there is no reason whatsoever to assume that people only become wights when they are killed by wights or Others. The Night’s Watch certainly does not seem to rely on this. They burn every dead person now. And here, Sam’s observation of Bannen sitting up in his burning pyre and trying to fight it becomes crucial. What if it was just the magic of the Others North of the Wall strengthening and it is simply enough that you die – from the cold, starvation, murdered by another human, choked on a chicken bone? You die, and hours later, when the moon is high, you rise as a wight North of the Wall. If you find you find yourself on a burning pyre like Bannen, you won’t get to do any harm. If you are carried South of the Wall before having become a wight, you remain dead.

When Craster yammers on how no good ever came from Black Crows coming or staying at his house, it points to a confrontation having occurred before.

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The wildling spat. “Crows. When did a black bird ever bring good to a man’s hall, I ask you? Never. Never.”…[snip]… “A godly man got no cause to fear such. I said as much to that Mance Rayder once, when he come sniffing round. He never listened, no more’n you crows with your swords and your bloody fires. That won’t help you none when the white cold comes. Only the gods will help you then. You best get right with the gods.”…[snip]…When Craster learned that his unwanted guests would be departing on the morrow, the wildling became almost amiable, or as close to amiable as Craster ever got. “Past time,” he said, “you don’t belong here, I told you that.” (aSoS, Samwell II)

 

It is clear that Craster expresses sentiments akin to seeing black crows nosing around his home, apart from eating his food. Ranger party after party had gone missing. Rangers came nosing around. I speculate that at least Jafer and Othor arrived at Craster’s, probably with several other rangers. Jafer witnessed vital information about the Others, but Craster discovered Jafer snooping, fell on him, caught him unawares and killed him with the axe that Othor had given him.

He then returned feigning alarm and “panic” (Pan is the god of panic) that something had attacked Jafer and him, causing the rest of the rangers to leave in search for Jafer and the mystery assailant. Some did meet their fate at the hands of an Other, and Craster attacked Othor with Othor’s axe, turning Othor’s gift against him. The rangers became wights, and Craster sent them to their sausage grave, except for Othor and Jafer.

I would suggest that Dywen was right – Craster escorted Othor’s and Jafer’s bodies to the Wall as a warning for the Night’s Watch, to tell them: “You want to know why your rangers go missing? Well, this is what happens to your rangers! Now, stop bugging me and mine. You don’t belong North of the Wall, and you best get right with the gods.”

Now, some people may hope or believe that it was Benjen who managed to reach the Fist and bury the cloak and obsidian daggers for Jon to find, especially since Jon notes it seems a recent cache. I would wish it were so, but I think they all became wight-sausage and ranger-bacon, except for Jafer and Othor. In order to bury that amount of obsidian at the Fist where later an attack was to take place, and know what it is far, I think we ought to discount Benjen Stark. This was someone who had contact with Children of the Forest and knowledge of what would happen not long after the Night’s Watch make camp at the Fist. It was likely Coldhands, who buried it with a fresh cloak of one of the recent ranger victims, on command of either Bloodraven or a possible future-Bran. And I follow George’s “No” to his editor wondering whether Coldhands = Benjen.

As a conclusion I will quote Jon twice in aCoK, Jon III, thinking of finally having answers to what happened to Benjen. While none of them ever seem to realize it, at least the reader can find the clues to formulate an answer in that chapter, and the other one at Craster's Keep. And it is a very typical hint by George to reader - the answers are here!

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Jon had often heard the black brothers tell tales of Craster and his keep. Now he would see it with his own eyes. After seven empty villages, they had all come to dread finding Craster's as dead and desolate as the rest, but it seemed they would be spared that. Perhaps the Old Bear will finally get some answers, he thought.

Perhaps tonight the Old Bear will learn something that will lead us to Uncle Benjen.(aCoK, Jon III)

 

Summary (tl;tr)

Craster is a ram-character who shares plenty of character and features with Vargo Hoat. And much of their nature or features seem to drafted after the only (Greek) god who died, Pan.

• both males of sheep and goats are called rams
• lost an ear because of the bite: the first frostbite, the later Brienne's bite
• greedy men: the first in women, the later in a material and title sense
• cruel men
• godless men
• scapegoats for bigger players, with neither side shedding a tear if they die (nor me)
• rapists
• cannibalists
• extortionists

Overall, Craster is a man who shares many features with the Bloodstone Emperor: worshipping necromancers, incest, enslavement of his own daughters, rape and physical abuse, sacrificing his baby sons, not caring about guest-right and breaking it, murder and cannibalism.

I propose that not only Craster broke guest-right just minutes before the mutiny, but that Craster also had an ugly confrontation with at least one of Benjen’s rangers and caused their death directly and indirectly with Othor’s axe given to him similarly as Jeor’s axe. They ended up as wights, and Crasters knew exactly what to do with them – he turned them into bacon and black sausages with axe and maul, except for Jafer and Othor. He delivered those two near the Wall as a warning, in the hope they would be found and stop the Night’s Watch from sending rangers North of the Wall to investigate and stick their nose in his business where they did not belong. Except, the Others saw a different use in them. Sadly enough this means that Benjen ended up as either bacon or sausage or both. That is why it was crucial that Jon never ate Craster’s filling breakfast. It is bad enough for someone unwittingly eating human remains of someone they never knew. But Jon eating Benjen Bacon would just be nasty.

[Darkstream]

41 minutes ago, sweetsunray said:

(see what I did there?)

Heh heh, I sursa did. Well, I know how I'm going to spend the next...*scrolls down...keeps scrolling...still scrolling*...well, lets say the next major part of my night. 

Can't wait to take it all in, I'm sure I'll be back with one of these  once I'm finished.

[sweetsunray]

7 minutes ago, Darkstream said:

Heh heh, I sursa did. Well, I know how I'm going to spend the next...*scrolls down...keeps scrolling...still scrolling*...well, lets say the next major part of my night. 

Can't wait to take it all in, I'm sure I'll be back with one of these  once I'm finished.

enjoy. It's morning here already. I think I need a nap

[Macgregor of the North]

When you say that the Wights never use weapons, never have, we have never seen a Wight hack into a man with a blade etc etc.

Thats tnot true. 

"The other wight, the one-handed thing that had once been a ranger named Jafer Flowers, had also been destroyed, cut near to pieces by a dozen swords … but not before it had slain Ser Jaremy Rykker and four other men. Ser Jaremy had finished the job of hacking its head off, yet had died all the same when the headless corpse pulled his own dagger from its sheath and buried it in his bowels."

If a weapon is to hand it's proven a Wight will use it in a struggle, they have that low amount of cunning left at the least, so perhaps it could easily have used an axe while in a struggle against Rangers. Much like the axe Othor used to carry 

 

[sweetsunray]

17 minutes ago, Macgregor of the North said:

When you say that the Wights never use weapons, never have, we have never seen a Wight hack into a man with a blade etc etc.

Thats tnot true. 

"The other wight, the one-handed thing that had once been a ranger named Jafer Flowers, had also been destroyed, cut near to pieces by a dozen swords … but not before it had slain Ser Jaremy Rykker and four other men. Ser Jaremy had finished the job of hacking its head off, yet had died all the same when the headless corpse pulled his own dagger from its sheath and buried it in his bowels."

If a weapon is to hand it's proven a Wight will use it in a struggle, they have that low amount of cunning left at the least, so perhaps it could easily have used an axe while in a struggle against Rangers. Much like the axe Othor used to carry 

 

I concede to that point (and I will update the OP to include your comment):

but note how it's a stab in the bowels. One stab. We also know how wights move - slow and clumsily. They target an area and then strengthen their grip until what they hold breaks.

But a swing in the groin, chest and neck with an axe requires speed, and someone using the axe in a flow of several momevents trageting three areas in quick succession. Either groin, chest and then neck, or chest, groin and then neck. swoosh-swoosh-swoosh. That's no wight's job.

[Darkstream]

Great job Sweetsunray, fascinating and compelling read.   I would however, after having just spent the last hour or so reading about wight sausage and ranger bacon, like to withdraw my statement about wanting to take it all in.    

33 minutes ago, sweetsunray said:

but note how it's a stab in the bowels. One stab. We also know how wights move - slow and clumsily. They target an area and then strengthen their grip until what they hold breaks.

Plus, this wight's head was severed, it had clearly lost it's mind and was not acting like your typical throat strangling ice zombie.   It seems that, unless all else is lost (or in this case a head) the wights tend not to use weapons. Anyway, I did come across another example of the wight's prefered method of attack.

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A Game of Thrones - Jon VII

Ghost leapt. Man and wolf went down together with neither scream nor snarl, rolling, smashing into a chair, knocking over a table laden with papers. Mormont's raven was flapping overhead, screaming, "Corn, corn, corn, corn." Jon felt as blind as Maester Aemon. Keeping the wall to his back, he slid toward the window and ripped down the curtain. Moonlight flooded the solar. He glimpsed black hands buried in white fur, swollen dark fingers tightening around his direwolf's throat. Ghost was twisting and snapping, legs flailing in the air, but he could not break free.

 

 

[sweetsunray]

11 minutes ago, Darkstream said:

Great job Sweetsunray, fascinating and compelling read.   I would however, after having just spent the last hour or so reading about wight sausage and ranger bacon, like to withdraw my statement about wanting to take it all in.    

Plus, this wight's head was severed, it had clearly lost it's mind and was not acting like your typical strangling ice zombie.   Anyway, I did come across another example of the wight's prefered method of attack.

 

I totally get that! I've been writing on it for the past 48 hours constantly thinking, oh my how am I going to write the enormous likelihood that we'll never even see Benjen as a wight. And I already disliked back and white sausages for real. Three days ago I started to write intent on just Jeor's death and the bear at the Fist and Sam taking Jeor's "fur" after he dies and run off with Gilly. And then I started to notice all those hints in aCoK, Jon III pointing to aGoT, Jon VII, meanwhile thinking "only Jafer, only Othor, Benjen got away". And then I read and reread and reread aSoS Samwell II, and reread aDwD Bran I for the fate of the mutineers again, and I read "pork". Poor Benjen

Thanks will add it to the quotes.

[Tijgy]

You did not convince me completely about the fact Ben himself was turned into a sausage  You might have me convinced on the fact some of the other rangers became sausages. 

We do have our favorite raven yell dead when Jon and the Bear are talking about Jon at the Fist (Jon IV, ACOK)

The raven gave a cackling scream, but the Old Bear smiled through the grey of his beard. "This many men and horses leave a trail even Aemon could follow. On this hill, our fires ought to be visible as far off as the foothills of the Frostfangs. If Ben Stark is alive and free, he will come to us, I have no doubt."

"Yes," said Jon, "but . . . what if . . .

". . . he's dead?" Mormont asked, not unkindly.

Jon nodded, reluctantly.

"Dead," the raven said. "Dead. Dead."

It looks like the Raven has spoken.  

(The main subject of this conversation is about the whereabouts of Ben. After this moment we do have a chase where Jon is mysteriously lead by Ghost to the place where he founds the cloak of the Sworn Brother. In my interpretation I say there might be a link to the conversations of the Old Bear and a possible intervention by the old gods: the old gods are sort of answering to his pleas. In AGOT you have a talk between the Old Bear and Tyrion where Tyrion is asked to influence his family. The chapter also ends where Tyrion is mysteriously led to look over the land beyond the Wall. And this led to believe me a similar link might be found between the conversation of the Old Bear and Jon and Jon's descent of the Fist, the whereabouts of Ben. But OTOH they also talk about Othor, ... so the object of the conversation can also be seen as the wights. So the old gods might had another intention (and this is even if you do assume any intervention of the old gods). 

Anyway this is sort of my interpretation which is why I am a little reluctant to believe Ben as a sausage. And while I think there is enough indications in the test some rangers are turned into sausages (f.e. the fact the burning corpse smelled like pork), I am not really sure there is enough to link Ben himself to it. I would suspect some wolf references or something like that . 

But the theory is still well written!  So well done!

PS. The Ice Sheep Herd of The Others  is a real thing. They have to do something with those sheep they got from Craster, right? (Or maybe they are completely addicted to sheep meat. Who knows?  

 

[Macgregor of the North]

1 hour ago, sweetsunray said:

I concede to that point (and I will update the OP to include your comment):

but note how it's a stab in the bowels. One stab. We also know how wights move - slow and clumsily. They target an area and then strengthen their grip until what they hold breaks.

But a swing in the groin, chest and neck with an axe requires speed, and someone using the axe in a flow of several momevents trageting three areas in quick succession. Either groin, chest and then neck, or chest, groin and then neck. swoosh-swoosh-swoosh. That's no wight's job.

Nowhere anywhere does it state that Jafer has these injuries. He had one injury to his neck which seems to be by one clumsy blow to the neck with an axe. Read the quote again here. It's Othor(the owner of the axe) who has the wounds you speak of. You have gotten mixed up unfortunately. 

Here is the passage.

"Squatting beside the dead man he had named Jafer Flowers, Ser Jaremy grasped his head by the scalp. The hair came out between his fingers, brittle as straw. The knight cursed and shoved at the face with the heel of his hand. A great gash in the side of the corpse's neck opened like a mouth, crusted with dried blood. Only a few ropes of pale tendon still attached the head to the neck. "This was done with an axe."
"Aye," muttered Dywen, the old forester. "Belike the axe that Othor carried, m'lord." 
Jon could feel his breakfast churning in his belly, but he pressed his lips together and made himself look at the second body. Othor had been a big ugly man, and he made a big ugly corpse. No axe was in evidence. Jon remembered Othor; he had been the one bellowing the bawdy song as the rangers rode out. His singing days were done. His flesh was blanched white as milk, everywhere but his hands. His hands were black like Jafer's. Blossoms of hard cracked blood decorated the mortal wounds that covered him like a rash, breast and groin and throat. Yet his eyes were still open. They stared up at the sky, blue as sapphires."

You have Jafers injuries mixed up as Othors I'm afraid. So... It is entirely plausible that Jafer was killed by a Wight with a clumsy axe stroke yes? 

To clarify.

Othors injuries seem like they are caused by a sword attack like Waymars.

Jafers seem to be caused by a single clumsy axe swing to the neck, pointing to it maybe being a Wight. 

 

[Macgregor of the North]

Also, on the Reddit thread which you state as 'likely' events preceding the prologue. I wouldn't be so hasty to call them likely and take that theory as gospel. 

The whole thing pretty much relies on Craster just assuming Waymar is a Stark and then running and telling the Others who then lay a trap for him. Why must this be taken as gospel? 

As soon as Craster sees Jon he automatically calls it and says he has the look of a Stark. He was obviously close enough to Royce to make the same assumption, if even that was the assumption he made, so why wouldn't he have just said to Will and Gared, or even Waymar himself something like- 'Who's the Lordling? He looks like a Stark'. Or 'Who are you Lordling that you are so high and mighty to not sleep under my roof?'. 

When we think of it this way it's nonsense to think Craster would waste the Others time with an assumption based on looks when he could very easily and likeky(going by how he just blurts it out about Jons looks) just check who the boy is by asking. I've never believed that part of the theory. 

It's just as likely if I'm honest that the Others began shadowing their movements on their own accord after the three Rangers went further North with seemingly hostile intent and one of them looked very much like the Lord Commander of the NW carrying a jewel hilted fancy sword that the Others may have took for the fancy blade(Dragonsteel) which killed all their Kin thousands of years ago during the long night when the Others battled the first members of their old foe, the Nights watch.

[sweetsunray]

52 minutes ago, Macgregor of the North said:

Nowhere anywhere does it state that Jafer has these injuries. He had one injury to his neck which seems to be by one clumsy blow to the neck with an axe. Read the quote again here. It's Othor(the owner of the axe) who has the wounds you speak of. You have gotten mixed up unfortunately. 

Here is the passage.

"Squatting beside the dead man he had named Jafer Flowers, Ser Jaremy grasped his head by the scalp. The hair came out between his fingers, brittle as straw. The knight cursed and shoved at the face with the heel of his hand. A great gash in the side of the corpse's neck opened like a mouth, crusted with dried blood. Only a few ropes of pale tendon still attached the head to the neck. "This was done with an axe."
"Aye," muttered Dywen, the old forester. "Belike the axe that Othor carried, m'lord." 
Jon could feel his breakfast churning in his belly, but he pressed his lips together and made himself look at the second body. Othor had been a big ugly man, and he made a big ugly corpse. No axe was in evidence. Jon remembered Othor; he had been the one bellowing the bawdy song as the rangers rode out. His singing days were done. His flesh was blanched white as milk, everywhere but his hands. His hands were black like Jafer's. Blossoms of hard cracked blood decorated the mortal wounds that covered him like a rash, breast and groin and throat. Yet his eyes were still open. They stared up at the sky, blue as sapphires."

You have Jafers injuries mixed up as Othors I'm afraid. So... It is entirely plausible that Jafer was killed by a Wight with a clumsy axe stroke yes? 

To clarify.

Othors injuries seem like they are caused by a sword attack like Waymars.

Jafers seem to be caused by a single clumsy axe swing to the neck, pointing to it maybe being a Wight. 

 

No, I don't have them mixed up.

If an Other wounded Othor in the chest with their whatever-milky-crystal swords it would have sliced right through to the back. Waymar's clothes were in tatters. His face a ruin. We don't get such a description for Othor at all. That certainly would have been remarked on if it had looked anything like Waymar. And we still have a throat wound for Othor too. And no, a sword in the groin is not "typical". It fits with an axe.

You also made a mistake the first time around. I actually had not stated that we never saw a wight attack with a weapon. My actual sentence was and still is, " Not once have we seen either a wight or an Other hack a blade into a man's groin." You altered that into "Not once have we seen a wight use a blade". The only edit I made to that sentence was bold the word "groin". 

So, while I thank you for the quote, I actually retreat my conceding the point, because you actually had misrepresentend what I wrote in the first place. I was talking about attacking the groin, with or without a blade, which means I was only talking about Othor, and the wound descriptions are not similar to the damage swords of Others do. Too many wounds for a wight at 3 different places. Not near enough damage Other swords do. 

[sweetsunray]

16 minutes ago, Macgregor of the North said:

Also, on the Reddit thread which you state as 'likely' events preceding the prologue. I wouldn't be so hasty to call them likely and take that theory as gospel.

I'm not going to argue that theory. You can argue with the OP on reddit about it. And AGAIN you misrepresent my words.

I write

There is a theory on reddit that goes deeper into Craster's lies, reconstructs the likely events preceding the prologue and what the Others may be after, which I certainly recommend as a read: a cold death in the snow - the killing of a ranger.

And you turn that into me taking it "as gospel truth".

You don't get to advize me which theory I find interesting or wish to acknowledge or point to other people. We're done here.

[Macgregor of the North]

2 minutes ago, sweetsunray said:

No, I don't have them mixed up.

If an Other wounded Othor in the chest with their whatever-milky-crystal swords it would have sliced right through to the back. Waymar's clothes were in tatters. His face a ruin. We don't get such a description for Othor at all. That certainly would have been remarked on if it had looked anything like Waymar. And we still have a throat wound for Othor too. And no, a sword in the groin is not "typical". It fits with an axe.

You also made a mistake the first time around. I actually had not stated that we never saw a wight attack with a weapon. My actual sentence was and still is, " Not once have we seen either a wight or an Other hack a blade into a man's groin." You altered that into "Not once have we seen a wight use a blade". The only edit I made to that sentence was bold the word "groin". 

So, while I thank you for the quote, I actually retreat my conceding the point, because you actually had misrepresentend what I wrote in the first place.

I

And now you are getting defensive and silly. lets keep this civil please, there's too much immaturity on this forum.

I am saying Othors injuries injuries look more like an Other attack similar to Waymars, i am not stating they definitely were.

I am talking about Jafer, and if im honest i think you were to when you mentioned the injuries to neck groin and chest which you claim were from the axe attack in your thread, so it seems 100% you were talking about Jafers injuries which leads me to say you have mixed up your rangers and their injuries. So to clarify what do you think caused Jafers injury? The one blow to the neck, which must have been clumsy because the head is still attached.

[Macgregor of the North]

5 hours ago, sweetsunray said:

And hitting a man in the groin + chest + neck with an axe would require speed and intelligence to swing the axe

This certainly seems to imply that you are talking about Jafer(since his injury to the neck is determined to be caused by an axe) but you have added Othors injuries in also leading me to believe you have mixed up your rangers and injuries. Can you clarify?

Also, nowhere is stated that Othors injuries to neck groin and chest are thought to have been caused by an axe.

[Macgregor of the North]

8 minutes ago, sweetsunray said:

I'm not going to argue that theory. You can argue with the OP on reddit about it. And AGAIN you misrepresent my words.

I write

There is a theory on reddit that goes deeper into Craster's lies, reconstructs the likely events preceding the prologue and what the Others may be after, which I certainly recommend as a read: a cold death in the snow - the killing of a ranger.

And you turn that into me taking it "as gospel truth".

You don't get to advize me which theory I find interesting or wish to acknowledge or point to other people. We're done here.

Again immaturity. I have encountered this with others on here such as Jons queen consort who cannot stand it when somebody points out something which is in disagreement with their line of thinking.

See past this defensive line of thinking and just talk it through. The discussion will flow much better. 

Saying something is likely is a strong indicator you take something as pretty much gospel and let it influence your own theories, which may in turn be flawed. If you didnt want the theory on reddit to be mentioned or brought up then why link it and include it? And before you have included it i assume you are using it as a reference for your own theories because you believe it and follow that line of thinking no? 

[sweetsunray]

16 minutes ago, Macgregor of the North said:

And now you are getting defensive and silly. lets keep this civil please, there's too much immaturity on this forum.

I am saying Othors injuries injuries look more like an Other attack similar to Waymars, i am not stating they definitely were.

I am talking about Jafer, and if im honest i think you were to when you mentioned the injuries to neck groin and chest which you claim were from the axe attack in your thread, so it seems 100% you were talking about Jafers injuries which leads me to say you have mixed up your rangers and their injuries. So to clarify what do you think caused Jafers injury? The one blow to the neck, which must have been clumsy because the head is still attached.

That first line is unnecessary.

I don't think they are like Waymar's injuries at all: " His fine clothes were a tatter, his face a ruin. A shard from his sword transfixed the blind white pupil of his left eye."

We know he was slashed at his arm and blood welled. His sword broke and shard went into his eye and brain. Then they flew on him, and his clothes were a tatter.

Othor is not a noble, had an axe, and wouldn't have worn nice sable fur like Waymar. He's ugly and big, and more comparable to Small Paul. There's no mention of his clothes being in tatters or multiple deep stab wounds. 3 mortal wounds: groin, chest and neck. The peculiarity is that Jon compares it to a rash.

"Blossoms of hard cracked blood decorated the mortal wounds that covered him like a rash, breast and groin and throat." So, 3 mortal wounds, skin broken (hard cracked blood), and yet it appears like a rash. There's no mention of any other type of wounds for Other. Just his milk white skin, except for his hands.

As for Jafer Flowers: That is identified as an axe wound. We know of only one wound, one great gash in the side of the neck. Head still only attached by a few tendons. Weapon: an axe. Dywen suggests Othor's axe.

That's why I put Jafer as being killed by Craster between brackets, and used "directly and indirectly" earlier too. Because yes, it's suggested by Dywen that Othor's axe killed Jafer. It is quite possible that Othor attacked Jafer with his axe after becoming a wight. 

[Darkstream]

1 hour ago, Macgregor of the North said:

Othors injuries seem like they are caused by a sword attack like Waymars.

There's really no indication that this is so. Considering the previous body that was being examined was said to be likely caused by an axe, and there was no mention of the wounds from the second body being made from another type of weapon, I would surmise that they were probably axes wounds as well. It seems that it would be note worthy if two body's found together had two different types of wounds.

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Jafers seem to be caused by a single clumsy axe swing to the neck, pointing to it maybe being a Wight. 

I would find it unlikely that a slow, clumsy Wight would have the opportunity to take a clean swipe at a ranger's neck, almost decapitating him. What this looks like to me is jafers being caught unaware, kind of like if someone who you thought you were protected from by guest's rights, had decided to take a "bite" outta ya neck.

As far as it looking like a clumsy axe swing, I disagree. It would be pretty hard to take a man's head clean off, especially without a block, holding it firm and steady.

Only a few ropes of pale tendon still attached the head to the neck.

This seems like quite a clean and swift blow to me. 

 

[sweetsunray]

41 minutes ago, Macgregor of the North said:

This certainly seems to imply that you are talking about Jafer(since his injury to the neck is determined to be caused by an axe) but you have added Othors injuries in also leading me to believe you have mixed up your rangers and injuries. Can you clarify?

Also, nowhere is stated that Othors injuries to neck groin and chest are thought to have been caused by an axe.

No, I did not confuse them. I did not mix up rangers and injuries.

Indeed it is not stated what weapon caused Othor's injuries. It does not state it was an axe. It does not state it was a sword. It does not state it was a maul. It is left blank. 3 injuries is all we have for Othor, that the skin is broken for the 3 wounds, and that they are mortal. I'm going with an axe, because of the groin, which usually euphemistically refers to penis and balls, and sharp and heavy enough to cause a mortal wound in the chest, yet without the Small Paul result. The "rash" imagery for me calls up heavy enough wound, but neither just superficial slice, nor deep puncture. An axe's blade fits that image for me best.

[Neds Secret]

Just now, sweetsunray said:

No, I did not confuse them. I did not mix up rangers and injuries.

Indeed it is not stated what weapon caused Othor's injuries. It does not state it was an axe. It does not state it was a sword. It does not state it was a maul. It is left blank. 3 injuries is all we have for Othor, that the skin is broken for the 3 wounds, and that they are mortal. I'm going with an axe, because of the groin, which usually euphemistically refers to penis and balls.

Ouch, Sweetunray, groin served just fine for me, but I believe you are correct in this interpretation.

[Macgregor of the North]

1 minute ago, sweetsunray said:

It is quite possible that Othor attacked Jafer with his axe after becoming a wight. 

Thank you. It did certainly seem though you were speaking matter of factly that theres no question its Craster who kills them as shown below regardless of the brackets.

 

5 hours ago, sweetsunray said:

Not once have we seen either a wight or an Other hack a blade into a man's groin. And hitting a man in the groin + chest + neck with an axe would require speed and intelligence to swing the axe around from here to there in a flowing movement, which is more typical of a living man, but not a wight.  Othor (and Jafer) were killed by a man, and that man would have been Craster.

 And again in reply to me later you seem to think of it as fact that it was a human who made the attack.

 

2 hours ago, sweetsunray said:

But a swing in the groin, chest and neck with an axe requires speed, and someone using the axe in a flow of several momevents trageting three areas in quick succession. Either groin, chest and then neck, or chest, groin and then neck. swoosh-swoosh-swoosh. That's no wight's job.

But... and we come to the mix up i believe you made. Where does it state anywhere that Othors injuries to the groin neck and chest were made with an axe? It is only ever determined that Jafers one injury to the neck was made with an axe, and it looks to be clumsy work and possibly just one reckless swing as the head is still attached. (Possible wight attack)

So ill ask again, and please dont take this as me wanting to be akward but it certainly seems very likely you mixed up Jafers and Othors injuries while writing up your OP. Can you comment on that?