SeanF Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Farage could be our next Ambassador in Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalker Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 2 hours ago, mormont said: Yeah, fair. But that insight comes from the fact that he's one of them, so naturally he thinks like them. Farage believed Trump would win for the same reason most Trump supporters believed it: he wanted him to win. That's not punditry. It's just agreement. I'm not sure he is, I would not trust anything he says to be his honest opinion. He is certainly familiar with those demographics, that does not mean he has to be one of them. There are also variations in opinion among them, so several groups, and he could at most be part of one, wouldn't you agree? He's largely irrelevant anyway, first past the post ensures that. A more relevant question would be if the Tories would pander to them, or be too afraid of losing centre voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 So, what do we think of Labour's call to send RAF transport planes to drop supplies in Aleppo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liffguard Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Christ, I don't know. These people need humanitarian aid, but it risks brinkmanship with Russia. My initial gut reaction is that we should do it - the situation is Aleppo is horrific and if we can alleviate some of that suffering then we should - but it's such a complicated and unstable situation that I can't really think through the various unintended consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 It sounds like sticking a band-aid over the side of the Titanic. Too little, too late, done just so we can feel better. We'd be better off sending humanitarian aid to the refugee camps in Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltaran Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 In more amusing news, apparently some vegans are kicking off because the new plastic fiver contains animal products http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38144598 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Well that was a nice little surprise, screw you Zac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Zac was a twit who called a pointless and unnecessary by-election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Mongoose Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Well at least he kept a promise. I read somewhere that Labour got fewer votes than they have members in Richmond. Impressive if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liffguard Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Running as an explicitly pro-brexit candidate in Richmond was always going to be an uphill struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Arthur Hightower Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Brexit wins, Trump wins, now the Liberal Democrats win a by-election... This has to go down as one of the most surprising years in political history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 6 hours ago, Liffguard said: Running as an explicitly pro-brexit candidate in Richmond was always going to be an uphill struggle. He was more trying to run on Heathrow I thought, but the dems opposed expansion as well so it became a non-issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 2 hours ago, The BlackBear said: He was more trying to run on Heathrow I thought. Yeah, the idea seemed to be to resign and get re-elected as nominally an independent single-issue campaigner because everyone loves those. I suspect that many voters didn't buy it, particularly as it was transparently clear from the Tories' decision not to run a candidate against him that the whole thing was a facade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 The government has plans to cut the number of students allowed to study into the UK, presumably because our universities are so massively over-funded they can turn down money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebble thats Stubby Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Well not only do those foreign students, Steel University places from our own hard working Students, they also steel the Students part time jobs. They probably can also be blamed for steeling some benefits somehow. Maybe after they complete their degrees they will stay, and steel our benefits? maybe bring over sponging family members and destroy the NHS. And what would happen if these foreign students meet Good Honest British students of the opposite sex? They might make babies together and steel even more of our benefits? or shock horror they could get married and never leave us again. We could be stuck with jolly foreigner for the rest of their Benefit sponging job steeling lives? They might also be not fully white? In case its not clear, I personally do not hold these views, nor agree with them in any way shape or form. But it might be how the Government is justifying this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Basically, the government has been told over and over that the sensible thing to do is exclude non-EU students (who are here temporarily, and who everyone agrees benefit the economy with no negative effects) from the immigration figures. So naturally they have consistently refused to do that. I work in higher education and I have no idea what the arguments are for not excluding non-EU students. I've never heard one. The government just says 'no' and doesn't explain their reasoning. The conclusion I've come to is that this is maybe some way of reinforcing the status of elite HE institutions by the back door. Cut student visas then only grant the small remaining number to Russell Group institutions, that sort of thing. So 'proper' universities get more money and status from having non-EU students and the rest have to educate the hoi polloi at government rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebble thats Stubby Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 that unfortunately makes far too much sense. + the Government gets the added bonus of "being tough on immigration" And if it lowers the official immigration figures so much the better as It may keep the Brexiters happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Huh. I thought we should be striving to make university more accessible to people from all kinds of backgrounds. Silly me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltaran Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Nicky Morgan pulled out of tonight's HIGNFY after the row about May's leather trousers, so they replaced her with a leather handbag. I'm a little disappointed that no mention was made of the tub of lard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 In better news: the government is backing an SNP private member's bill on domestic violence despite the odious Philip Davies attempting to talk it out, rambling for 78 minutes about how the bill was 'sexist against men' and 'political correctness', chuntering about shoplifting, the evils of feminism and how he's the real believer in equality. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-38343735 A note: Philip Davies has just been elected unopposed as a Conservative party member of the Women and Equalities Committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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