PetyrPunkinhead Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 On 5/10/2017 at 0:56 PM, Knight of Ashes said: Just as I was thinking that for someone who is new with emotions, Ophelia was handling them a little too well, then boom! I'm not really a fan of spirits of vengeance, so I wasn't too thrilled with Ghost Rider's return. If there was a swipe at the Trump administration in this ep, then I must've missed it, which is too bad. Yeah, Ophelia/Aida quickly went Crazy-Ex-Girlfriend in a horrifyingly spectacular way. And I'm not sure I caught a direct dig at the Trump administration either other than the fact the real bad guy behind the scenes is a guy literally named The Russian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ashes Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 1 hour ago, PetyrPunkinhead said: Yeah, Ophelia/Aida quickly went Crazy-Ex-Girlfriend in a horrifyingly spectacular way. And I'm not sure I caught a direct dig at the Trump administration either other than the fact the real bad guy behind the scenes is a guy literally named The Russian. I've come to view those anti-Trump digs as more entertaining than Stan Lee cameos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I didn't catch one either, but some enterprising fellow has got the Hail-Hydra.com URL to redirect to the White House website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felice Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 6 hours ago, PetyrPunkinhead said: Yeah, Ophelia/Aida quickly went Crazy-Ex-Girlfriend in a horrifyingly spectacular way. And I'm not sure I caught a direct dig at the Trump administration either A dangerously powerful person with no emotional maturity throwing a horrific tantrum when things don't go their way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieStone Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 There's been two direct swipes at Trump/Republicans that I can think of in the last few weeks. I think in the first episode in the Framework, evil Fitz used the line "Nevertheless she persisted" when talking about torturing Daisy/Skye. And then in one of the latest episodes someone dropped the "Alternative Facts" line - Aida, maybe? It was Coulson in his TV monologue. "Nevertheless, she persisted" - http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/lindsay-kornick/2017/04/20/abcs-agents-shield-borrows-nevertheless-she-persisted-line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetyrPunkinhead Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Yes, that's right! I do remember hearing the alternative facts line in an episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Fitz when he was first revealed as the Doctor said: 'We will make our society great again.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 A lot of good stuff happened in the finale, however I felt the pacing of the episode felt disjointed. They kept jumping from one scene to another a bit too fast. It felt like they wanted to do a longer season finale, but were not allowed to, so they crammed everything they wanted to show in the allotted time. The Ghost Rider stuff felt particularly rushed, along with Aida's end, and all the main characters now being hunted. Spoiler But I liked that end scene with GR and hoped for a quick Dr. Strange cameo. I loved the Framework stuff. Good ending for Radcliffe, and resolution to Mack's plot. Spoiler I am definitely intrigued by that end scene, but I wonder if they did because they want these characters to have a connection to the larger plots at play (Guardians of the Galaxy and Avengers) or did they just do it to separate them from the upcoming storyline in the Inhumans TV show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 What end scene are you guys talking about? Sounds like I missed something in my watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 17 minutes ago, SpaceChampion said: What end scene are you guys talking about? Sounds like I missed something in my watch. Spoiler Coulson wakes up in a room that looks to be on a space station or ship (possibly prison). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacuna Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Spoiler S.W.O.R.D? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ashes Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Things got resolved a little too quickly for my taste; especially in Fitz's case. Also, what with show exerting a certain amount of effort into trying to convince Simmons and Daisy that the denizens of Hydraworld are real enough ( what with Ward's speech and hopes of getting his Skye back and Tripp taking up the Patriot mantle) I thought they were somehow gonna keep their existence. Wasn't impressed with AIDA/Ophelia devolving from an almost sympathetic protagonist into a two-dimensional villain. Anyway, liked Radciffe's end and despite my dislike for characters with that Old Testament feel, I am somewhat curious as to what that deal that Coulson made with Ghosty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Obviously the Coulson in space is the real Coulson, but was the one in the diner captured with his team by the government a LMD? ie. The latter has nothing to do with the former, and Coulson in space happened for another reason? I was thinking that reason has to do with consequence of taking on the Ghost Rider mantle briefly, perhaps becoming part dark matter himself, so he can't be on Earth anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterfell is Burning Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Knight of Ashes said: Wasn't impressed with AIDA/Ophelia devolving from an almost sympathetic protagonist into a two-dimensional villain. It made sense- Ophelia was essentially a child in terms of emotional maturity. Of course she wouldn't have a reasonable reaction to Fitz not choosing her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mother of The Others Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Ah, watchable because finale. That explains it. Usually there's no feeling of urgency to go along with all of their urgent behavior, but lastnight managed to get watched. a good reminder to watch next season's finale too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ashes Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Winterfell is Burning said: It made sense- Ophelia was essentially a child in terms of emotional maturity. Of course she wouldn't have a reasonable reaction to Fitz not choosing her. I understand that - I'm just not big on whatever made the character sympathetic in the previous episode completely disappearing and her going psychotic so Ghost Rider could conveniently do his hellfire thing on her, no objections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Did Ward kinda just go away once they left the Framework...? He wasn't about with Mack in the bunker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 4 hours ago, SpaceChampion said: Obviously the Coulson in space is the real Coulson, but was the one in the diner captured with his team by the government a LMD? ie. The latter has nothing to do with the former, and Coulson in space happened for another reason? I was thinking that reason has to do with consequence of taking on the Ghost Rider mantle briefly, perhaps becoming part dark matter himself, so he can't be on Earth anymore. That wasn't my read of it. The guys who took them had technology we haven't seen before and said something about a window closing in a few minutes, which I assume was some kinda space portal. I don't think there's anyone in the US Government with more advanced tech than SHIELD. So they're probably aliens or something. Also Talbot is alive but in a coma, WTF? I thought he was shot like right in the forehead. 12 hours ago, Corvinus said: I am definitely intrigued by that end scene, but I wonder if they did because they want these characters to have a connection to the larger plots at play (Guardians of the Galaxy and Avengers) I chuckled a bit at that. But I guess it's possible they're working towards a one sided tie-in with Infinity War. (Sorry I had to remove the spoiler tags to get this post to go through cause of board weirdness) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3CityApache Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 7 hours ago, Jaxom 1974 said: Did Ward kinda just go away once they left the Framework...? He wasn't about with Mack in the bunker... Yeah, some kind of closure for Ward and Tripp, like the one Radcliff got, would have been nice I guess. I'm kinda intrigued by the ending. So they (or at least Coulson) left the Earth. Wonder where they could go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 It was mildly surprising that the machine Aida used wasn't a plot point at the end at all. With four candidates to use it, it just got forgotten as well...or was it destroyed on the oil rig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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