Jasta11 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 KOTOR 2 is definitely a tragedy in terms of potential. I already like it a lot, but it would have been such an even better game had Obsidian been able to fully realize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durckad Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 On 10/8/2016 at 3:58 AM, A True Kaniggit said: Two more weeks until Civ 6 releases. Haven't decided if I'm going to get it at launch yet. I am really liking the idea of having the cities spread across multiple tiles as they grow though. If its done right it could make sieges/ urban warfare a much greater risk in later parts of the game. Cautiously optimistic about Civ 6. I think the changes look really interesting and I'm loving the art style. Only issue I see, potentially, is the return of the unit stack of doom that made warfare in most non-Civ 5 games so, so boring. Hopefully, the addition of armies and armadas makes this less of an issue. 10 hours ago, matt b said: I still vastly prefer the combat from DA:O to any of the others. Just a huge variety of abilities to use, and I never lost track of where anybody in my party was at a given time, which happened constantly in DA:I. Seriously, what was the deal with that? Why'd they have to create a whole new "tactical view" with different controls instead of just giving us the top-down angle like DA:O? Sometimes the simplest solutions are the best. I could never really get into DA:I mostly because of the insanely terrible camera, the more action-y combat, the constant respawning of enemies, and the utterly generic quests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ded As Ned Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Question for the gamer parents of the thread... when & how did you decide to turn your kids loose on the blood & gore side of gaming? (ETA: Or for you younglings on the thread, what was your experience with your parents?) It's something I'm mulling over presently... my oldest is 7, and I'm getting more push-back from him wanting to play some of these games. Namely happy wheels on his tablet, Call of Duty with the neighbor kids (who are a few years older than him), Skyrim, etc. So right now we're having a dialogue on it, and I'm mulling it over. Plus me sneaking up at 5am on Saturdays to play a few hours of Skyrim is getting kind of old. I'm looking for what your experience was/is, or any input or ideas you want to throw out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Phipps Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 13 hours ago, KiDisaster said: I was looking forward to it but the awful state of the port has put me off. Waiting to see how much they fix it with patches before I decide if I want to spend full price on it or wait for a sale. The worst bugs I've encountered so far is the fact if you go really, really fast, the cars and environments take a moment to load. Which, I admit, is a problem I last saw with GTA: Vice City two decades ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiDisaster Posted October 10, 2016 Author Share Posted October 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, Ded As Ned said: Question for the gamer parents of the thread... when & how did you decide to turn your kids loose on the blood & gore side of gaming? (ETA: Or for you younglings on the thread, what was your experience with your parents?) It's something I'm mulling over presently... my oldest is 7, and I'm getting more push-back from him wanting to play some of these games. Namely happy wheels on his tablet, Call of Duty with the neighbor kids (who are a few years older than him), Skyrim, etc. So right now we're having a dialogue on it, and I'm mulling it over. Plus me sneaking up at 5am on Saturdays to play a few hours of Skyrim is getting kind of old. I'm looking for what your experience was/is, or any input or ideas you want to throw out there. My parents were pretty laid back about that sort of thing. I'd watch R-rated movies with them when I was a little kid, they would always talk to me about them before or after though. If it was really violent they'd try to explain the context to me and make sure I understood that "it's just a movie, none of this real, hurting people is not OK." I remember Saving Private Ryan was the first R-rated movie I ever saw in a theater, and I think I was 8 when that came out. I went with my dad and my grandpa and they spent a while before we went basically trying to explain WW2 to me. When it came to games it was pretty much the same thing, either my mom or my dad would watch us play it for a bit and then we'd talk about it if they thought it was necessary. Always emphasizing "remember it's just a game" and such. Which sounded really silly to me at the time and I got sick of hearing it because "of course I know it's just a game/movie" but now that I'm older I see why they did it and I'm glad for it. I think the closest my parents ever got to telling me I couldn't play something was with one of the Grand Theft Auto games (probably 3, I was 11 when that came out) and that was mainly because of the media controversy over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasta11 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 53 minutes ago, Ded As Ned said: Question for the gamer parents of the thread... when & how did you decide to turn your kids loose on the blood & gore side of gaming? (ETA: Or for you younglings on the thread, what was your experience with your parents?) It's something I'm mulling over presently... my oldest is 7, and I'm getting more push-back from him wanting to play some of these games. Namely happy wheels on his tablet, Call of Duty with the neighbor kids (who are a few years older than him), Skyrim, etc. So right now we're having a dialogue on it, and I'm mulling it over. Plus me sneaking up at 5am on Saturdays to play a few hours of Skyrim is getting kind of old. I'm looking for what your experience was/is, or any input or ideas you want to throw out there. My parents were fairly laid back. I was playing Goldeneye when I was an 8 years old kid, and for the time that was relatively violent, I watched movies that had gore or sex scenes when I was.. I dunno, 12? Something like that. And they just told me it wasn't real and such, which I understood well enough. My dad told me it's like playing with sticks; it's OK so long as you don't think doing the same with a bigger stick or a piece of metal is the same thing, one's playing and one's hurting. I mean if Skyrim and Call of Duty are the worst you got, that's not really the most over the top violent games, nor do they have the most disturbing scenes, so I wouldn't worry myself. Albeit I'd perhaps wait a few years before turning the kids loose on something like The Witcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Phipps Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I think parents should allow their kids to experience these things at a proper pace as sheltering them too much doesn't prepare them for the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ded As Ned Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I'm fairly laid back in general as a parent as well... I just have no base to draw from in this area. I was 12 when the likes of Wolfenstein 3D and Doom came out in 1992, and I was the one turning on my peers to those (friends with PC's anyway). My parents never said anything about it.... I think I remember my mom's face squirming up when I got to Mortal Kombat around that same time, but that was about it. Movies were a different story... I wasn't allowed anything Rated R until I was 15-16ish... I remember throwing an absolute tantrum about not being to allowed to watch Indiana Jones & the Last Crusade because it was PG-13 and I was 11. Still bitter about it lol I'm probably gonna let him go with it and see how it goes from there. I mean, I already had to dodge an awkward conversation about ED yesterday thanks to the Viagra commercials during NFL football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Ded As Ned said: Question for the gamer parents of the thread... when & how did you decide to turn your kids loose on the blood & gore side of gaming? (ETA: Or for you younglings on the thread, what was your experience with your parents?) It's something I'm mulling over presently... my oldest is 7, and I'm getting more push-back from him wanting to play some of these games. Namely happy wheels on his tablet, Call of Duty with the neighbor kids (who are a few years older than him), Skyrim, etc. So right now we're having a dialogue on it, and I'm mulling it over. Plus me sneaking up at 5am on Saturdays to play a few hours of Skyrim is getting kind of old. I'm looking for what your experience was/is, or any input or ideas you want to throw out there. Is Skyrim really even that violent? It's mostly killing fantasy creatures, and I don't recall the language being much of an issue either if that's a concern. Beyond that, if you play as a mage, there really won't be much blood at all since as far as I recall most (if not all) magic attacks don't leave blood, so that might be a compromise if the violence in a warrior-style playthrough is a concern. As far as my childhood, I don't recall it ever being much of an issue. Granted, games were significantly less detailed than they are now, so that's obviously something to consider. There's quite a bit of difference between the violence in a game like Doom (which released when I was eight or nine) or Duke Nukem 3D than in modern games like Call of Duty from a realism perspective. Still, I think simply being involved when the kid plays games like this is probably enough parental supervision. If you think the game is getting too violent or intense, just switch to something else. As others have noted, Skyrim and Call of Duty aren't really the most violent mature games on the market to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 4 hours ago, Ded As Ned said: Question for the gamer parents of the thread... when & how did you decide to turn your kids loose on the blood & gore side of gaming? (ETA: Or for you younglings on the thread, what was your experience with your parents?) It's something I'm mulling over presently... my oldest is 7, and I'm getting more push-back from him wanting to play some of these games. Namely happy wheels on his tablet, Call of Duty with the neighbor kids (who are a few years older than him), Skyrim, etc. So right now we're having a dialogue on it, and I'm mulling it over. Plus me sneaking up at 5am on Saturdays to play a few hours of Skyrim is getting kind of old. I'm looking for what your experience was/is, or any input or ideas you want to throw out there. I first played Halo and Call of Duty when I was 11, but I tend to think I had quite a sheltered upbringing. A guy I know was playing Halo when he was 6 (with his 10 year old brother) and he turned out fine. Of course it depends on the child. Not sure I'd personally have been comfortable playing Skyrim when I was 7. It's mostly just fantasy violence with some blood, but some of the dungeons have torture chambers etc which are a bit dark IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonSnow4President Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 If gore is your only hangup, I'd let your kids start playing most video games around when you'd start letting them watch a movie like Kingsman. Most games are a splatter of red, although some can have detailed gore as an environmental set piece that isn't caused by the player (like Skyrim. The gore in the landscape far exceeds anything resulting from the player's actions). If you're not sure on a specific game, hop on twitch and watch people play it for an hour, or go on youtube and watch a "let's play" for a little bit. Those tend to give you a good feel for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Feeling like my time with WoW is coming to an end again pretty soon. Legion was fun while leveling and for the first few weeks of endgame. But I'm now at the inevitable point where almost the only thing left to do is running the same content over and over to try to get better loot; which is only fun for so long for me. Fortunately, it looks like there's a bunch of games coming out in the next month that are right up my alley; leading with Civ6 and Dishonored 2. I've also somehow exploded my steam wishlist again, so the winter sale is going to be rough once more. I picked up the God Eater/God Eater 2 steam bundle the other day; been playing the first one and its not bad. The small and reused environments make it obvious that its a PSP port, but the graphics themselves aren't half bad. Plus, unlike Monster Hunter, there are actual characters and a story. Neither are fantastic, but the writing is certainly competent enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiddler Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 My parents weren't restrictive at all with my entertainment. I remember watching Porkies at a very young age with my Dad and Uncle. I played Mortal Kombat when it was being persecuted for violence (the genesis version with the blood even). I think I turned out ok. In the end though, it is up to the parents. If you feel your boy is able to handle playing those games then go ahead. If you think it may cause issues then start with something mild and work see how he reacts to it. Anyways, bought Darkest Dungeon on PS4 this last week. I played this game a bit on PC and it is the same game, so if you have it on PC, play it there. The game is still balls tough and naming the heroes after family members is still great. It is a good game I get lost in while watching D&D live plays on Youtube, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 This hasn't been on my radar at all, but Sunless Sea's expansion comes out today; Zubmariner. As the name suggests, it'll let you go beneath the Zee. There's also a bunch of new content on the surface (the Zee surface that is; not the surface surface under the light) it sounds like; including a few things that'll be put into the base game for those without the expansion. Also, it turns out the devs announced a few weeks ago that they're going to have a Kickstarter probably in February for a sequel, Sunless Skies; which will actually take place in space. The announcement sounds like it'll be focusing on the really deep lore of the setting that only gets mentioned a couple times in Sunless Sea and in the original Fallen London; stuff like what light actually is and the stars being judgments. And beyond that, the Victorian Empire in space is the original Sci-Fi setting and I'm excited to see it in game form; they mention HG Wells and Jules Vern as inspirations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l2 0 5 5 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 On October 10, 2016 at 9:33 AM, Ded As Ned said: Question for the gamer parents of the thread... when & how did you decide to turn your kids loose on the blood & gore side of gaming? (ETA: Or for you younglings on the thread, what was your experience with your parents?) It's something I'm mulling over presently... my oldest is 7, and I'm getting more push-back from him wanting to play some of these games. Namely happy wheels on his tablet, Call of Duty with the neighbor kids (who are a few years older than him), Skyrim, etc. So right now we're having a dialogue on it, and I'm mulling it over. Plus me sneaking up at 5am on Saturdays to play a few hours of Skyrim is getting kind of old. I'm looking for what your experience was/is, or any input or ideas you want to throw out there. My parents were pretty open to letting me experiment with graphic entertainment as a kid. Off the top of my head, the only thing I was ever banned from watching was HBO (though I still snuck on and watched Taxicab Confessions and Cathouse when no one was up), and WWF wrestling after I performed a Stone Cold Stunner on my littler brother. As for video games, I was never told I couldn't play a game because it was too graphic. As a poster stated above, the closest I came to being restricted from a game was GTA 3. My mom happened to walk by when I was playing with a friend and was wreaking havoc in Liberty City. I was around 12-13 at the time. My mom never removed the game from me, though. In regards to Skyrim and COD, I think those are two low level M rated games. They are by no means GTA level in terms of violence and sex. They seem pretty safe to me, though I have a pretty liberal view on kids playing graphic vid games. As long as the parent/child can understand the difference of fantasy/reality I think you're good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l2 0 5 5 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I grabbed GoW4 ultimate edition with the early access. So far I'm digging the campaign. The new characters are likable and provide entertaining dialogue. Only on Act 1 Chapter 4 so a small sample size there thus far. I've put most of my time in multiplayer. Movement and wall bouncing is more fluid and fast-paced; very much like GoW3. The new 'Dodgeball' mode is pretty fun with back and forth competition. I'm not ecstatic about any of the maps, however. So far my favorite map is Gridlock and that was a GoW1 map so that is disappointing. Hopefully the matchmaking picks up the pace because right now it is slower than a Witcher 3 load after getting killed. I've been a Gears fan since it's launch in '06. I think Gears 3 is the best game in the series, and after seeing some GoW3 elements in 4, I remain optimistic. To this point, and after spending the $99 on the ultimate edition, I'm lukewarm about my purchase. I'm hoping that lukewarm will turn into scalding hot, but that is hope.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argonath Diver Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 In regards to your kid and games, my only recommendation is to keep them away from games with online communities who frown upon children gaming. I have played many hours of FPS games, heard a kid's voice, and then heard other people saying awful, awful things. Things that adults are able to shrug off as internet trolling, but a kid might misunderstand or misinterpret. Even if you don't mind your kid running around shooting terrorists in Counter Strike, some of the things on voice chat and in the chatbox are simply not things a developing child should be around. To me, an equivalent would be shooting pool. I grew up with a pool table in my house, and my dad would take me to the pool hall once I was tall enough to shoot a decent game. But he wouldn't leave me over at the bar, listening to the men and their unfiltered talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ded As Ned Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Thanks for the feedback gang, it was very helpful. I'm going to start with the CoD & Skyrim and see how it goes. @Argonath Diver, yeah freely playing online is not going to be an option for awhile. I let them do that with Minecraft only, but they're not mic'd up and can't hear other player's voices... and only on servers I frequent myself. Anyway, thanks again and carry on. I lurk here a lot, but don't have a lot to add as I'm still a generation behind on the PS3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiDisaster Posted October 11, 2016 Author Share Posted October 11, 2016 Trying to play Gears of War 4 but the day 1 patch download keeps getting stuck at 387MB. Goddamn the Windows Store is fucking terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonSnow4President Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 6 hours ago, Ded As Ned said: Thanks for the feedback gang, it was very helpful. I'm going to start with the CoD & Skyrim and see how it goes. @Argonath Diver, yeah freely playing online is not going to be an option for awhile. I let them do that with Minecraft only, but they're not mic'd up and can't hear other player's voices... and only on servers I frequent myself. Anyway, thanks again and carry on. I lurk here a lot, but don't have a lot to add as I'm still a generation behind on the PS3. For the love of God, keep them off CoD voice chat until their voices drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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