Fez Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 The NBA could just put it in New York City. Its big enough to absorb a third NBA team and New Yorkers deserve a chance to root for an NBA team that isn't cartoonishly mismanaged. I think there's a lot of decent options for the second expansion team, but no obvious great ones to go along with Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperry Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Far worse than the pay issue is that players aren't going to want to live in Mexico city. Sure, the taxes suck in Toronto, but it's a safe, English speaking city that's a short flight from all the major east coast cities. Mexico city is spanish speaking, has major crime problems, and is way the hell away from everything else. I would imagine most free agents would require millions to sign up for that deal. Not to mention that Trump is likely to create pretty large anti-American sentiments in Mexico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrum Aeternum Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Put the 2nd team in Las Vegas and move Memphis (or New Orleans, I suppose) to the Eastern Conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Tiger Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Austin, NYC, Riverside, Vegas, Connecticut. All could support a team and all are English-speaking areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunderMifflin Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just change a D league team into an NBA team. That's essentially what watering down gets you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrl6199 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, DunderMifflin said: Just change a D league team into an NBA team. That's essentially what watering down gets you. True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 6 hours ago, Calibandar said: Is that really a flop? There is contact and Green's shoulder does clearly hit his chin. In football ( soccer for Americans) we only call it flopping when someone dives or falls without ( or hardly any) contact. It was a flop. I agree that flops in soccer are more egregious, but that's a pretty standard NBA flop. Plus LeBron has a history of flopping, so he loses the benefit of the doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrl6199 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: It was a flop. I agree that flops in soccer are more egregious, but that's a pretty standard NBA flop. Plus LeBron has a history of flopping, so he loses the benefit of the doubt. Yeah i agree with you three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunderMifflin Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Didn't look too floppy to me. Looked like DG laid a special teams block on him. I don't think it deserve a tech but it looked like pretty solid contact enough to knock him down. Lebron laying down like he was dead or hurt afterwards looked pretty dramatic and fake though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 That one wasn't as blatant as others, but as Tywin mentioned, he has a history, so he gets no pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunderMifflin Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 History works both ways though. Lebron is a flop historian but DrayDray is a known dirty shotter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 26 minutes ago, DunderMifflin said: History works both ways though. Lebron is a flop historian but DrayDray is a known dirty shotter. Yeah, in this case they are both guilty really. It was a flagrant, and LeBron flopped afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurktan Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 They should replace Seattle AND Vancouver. The Grizzlies had fan support but had the worst management team in NBA history. They made today's knicks look like Auerbach's Celtics. Also the taxes for players in Toronto are not particularly high in comparison to all states that aren't Florida and i believe Texas. They are actually lower than most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireWolfSpirit Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Vegas has no state taxes being in Nevada. On a $15 million a year player contract, thats equals several hundred thousand extra $ the player can pocket. That would be quite popular with players i'm sure. I'd favor WC Vegas and EC Louisville. Also I would like the rules committee to move the 3pt line out further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 4 hours ago, DireWolfSpirit said: Vegas has no state taxes being in Nevada. On a $15 million a year player contract, thats equals several hundred thousand extra $ the player can pocket. That would be quite popular with players i'm sure. I'd favor WC Vegas and EC Louisville. Something I'd forgotten is that players don't get all their game-checks at their home arena. They get their checks based on where they play each game and pay taxes on those checks based on where the game is held. So that's another strike against Mexico City. It'd mean over half the players in the league would get one check per season that it was Mexican pesos that they'd have to file Mexican taxes on (for their away game at the Mexico City team), and that's a complication I'm sure the NBPA would fight pretty hard against. It also lessens the impact that playing for a team in Florida or Texas (or Nevada) would have; since its only the home games that are state tax-free. The average maximum state income tax is around 5% let's say (maybe its a closer to 6%); which on a $15 million contract would be $750,000. So if its a Nevada team, its only the home games (plus away games in Texas and Florida) that have no state income tax on them; so it'd be slightly more than $375,000 being saved. Except, people who itemize their Federal tax returns (and I'd be shocked if any NBA players didn't) get a deduction for all state and local taxes paid; and any NBA player making $15 million per year is paying the top Federal tax rate of 39.6%. So playing for a team in state with no income tax does save players some money, but not nearly as much you might think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrum Aeternum Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 For the record, Tennessee also doesn't have a state income tax on wages & salaries, plus last year they finally repealed the ridiculous "jock tax" aimed directly at NBA and NHL players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ferrum Aeternum said: For the record, Tennessee also doesn't have a state income tax on wages & salaries, plus last year they finally repealed the ridiculous "jock tax" aimed directly at NBA and NHL players. Right, totally blanked that Tennessee has multiple pro sports teams. I'd lumped them with Alaska, South Dakota, New Hampshire, and Wyoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I don't think taxes are really something that players even consider any more. With what they make now, it's barely even a concern to even the players on the lower end of the pay scale. Plus, as others have mentioned, even players who reside in tax free states end up paying taxes on about half their games, which further lessens the benefit of living in a tax free state. I think the main concerns for players nowadays is either being on a contending team or being on a team where they can get the most time to showcase themselves for a big payday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime L Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 @Maithanet, I need answers. The Wizards have won 12 in a row at home - what the suffering fuck? I'm not sure there's an NBA team that historically has had less of a homecourt advantage than Les Boulez. They've also somehow played 7 more home games than away games at this point so I await the swift, brutal regression because they've been godawful on the road. Win streak aside, I'm not convinced they're even decent and they're apparently banned from nationally televised games so I can't see for myself. So please tell me what the fuck is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibandar Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 Westbrook not voted in among All Star starters- bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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