The Marquis de Leech Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 21 minutes ago, Maithanet said: There is virtually no scenario where Trump wins without Florida. Things are going very well. Without Florida, Trump needs Romney 2012 + Iowa + Nevada + Ohio + Pennsylvania + two out of the following three - New Hampshire, Colorado, and Wisconsin. As things stand, I can't see Trump doing that if he's also losing Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Fez said: Well, I can't tell you what local races you might have (I've got a county board race, school board race, and some bond issues), but there are two referendums to amend the Virginia constitution that no one has been talking about. The first would add a right-to-work (aka union busting) clause to the state constitution. Virginia already has a bunch of right-to-work laws, so it wouldn't have much immediate effect. But it would make it that much harder to reverse those laws if Democrats ever retake the state legislature. So I recommend voting NO on that one. The second would allow the state legislature to allow localities to exempt surviving spouses of public health or safety personnel killed in the line of duty from paying property taxes, so long as they remain at the residence that person lived at and do not remarry. Personally, I'm also voting NO on this one. I'm all for giving lots of benefits to surviving spouses (and families) of people killed in the line of public duty, but I don't believe using the tax code is the right way to do it. Also, with the clause about not remarrying, it adds a weird incentive there of encouraging people to not try to move on with their lives. Whether or not to ever remarry about a spouse is killed is an intensively personal decision, and I don't think the state should be getting involved in it. Interesting. I've seen some commercials on the first referendum, but nothing on the second. Is there a particular website you recommend for looking things up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Randy Newman's first new song in years -- "Putin": Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Trump doing some more waving of his fascist flag: Yup, that's his post-election plans apparently. Jailing his political opponent and anyone who spoke out against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 16 minutes ago, Shryke said: Trump doing some more waving of his fascist flag: Yup, that's his post-election plans apparently. Jailing his political opponent and anyone who spoke out against him. That's been his counter-attack gameplan since the early 80's. Roy Cohn taught him that. Just sue. Sue the fuck out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Two of the women, Karena Virginia and Summer Zervos, have appeared with attorney Gloria Allred when going public with their stories. Perhaps if Trump decides to sue, there might be a class action suit leveled against him. Popcorn, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 9 hours ago, Roose Boltons Pet Leech said: He's been French-Kissing Trump for ages, and has lost all credibility in the process. Screw him. Also, he really hates the US, period. And Wikileaks believes in that Rothschild conspiracy bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokisnow Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 So since Paul Ryan's comment a couple days ago that Bernie might chair the budget committee, Bernie has raised over 2 million for down ballot senate candidates with NC as the biggest beneficiary. Bernie might get a congress supportive of his ideals yet, sad that it took this long for he and his supporters to realize how important this is or to only care if it accrues power and benefits to Bernie, but I'm thrilled Bernie is finally acknowledging that down ballot candidates exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitttenGuard Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 As far as a broken clock goes it will be in Hillary's interest to take up Trump's proposal related to a 5 year ban on former Executives and Congressional officials from lobbying. I know Obama attempted to have a similar ban and had some problems but I do think overall it is a good idea to pursue. I do think Hillary can have the potential of being a modern day Chester A. Arthur with government reform. She can also Chelsea in charge, she been coming off good in the leaked E-mails in pointing out troubling potential conflicts of interests in the Clinton Foundation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 t's no accident that Orange Stalin, traitor to his nation, concluded his Gettysburg address today at the site of Pickett's Charge. That's not even a dog whistle to his base as to what he expects them to do when he loses. Vomitous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraPrime Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 36 minutes ago, Zorral said: t's no accident that Orange Stalin, traitor to his nation, concluded his Gettysburg address today at the site of Pickett's Charge. That's not even a dog whistle to his base as to what he expects them to do when he loses. Vomitous. Eh? But the charge was ultimately repelled, so the Union won. In what sense is that a dog whistle for the white supremacists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 31 minutes ago, TerraPrime said: Eh? But the charge was ultimately repelled, so the Union won. In what sense is that a dog whistle for the white supremacists? No one ever claimed this guy knows any history. In any case Pickett's charge is part of the great glorious Lost Cause mythology of gallant, brave secesh who never lost but were unfairly clobbered by superior numbers -- and because Stuart went walk-about way too long, betraying the knight knights Lee. Otherwise they'd a won Gettysburg and continued the invasion of the north. They were however drastically short of competent officers after the Gettysburg defeat. But up to the very end, guns and ammo were what Lee's Army of Northern VA always had. Just no food. Or maybe he picked the site thinking Pickett's Charge was a buncha thugs with clubs charging a a line of laborers picketing his brand, demanding their back wages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 25 minutes ago, Zorral said: No one ever claimed this guy knows any history. In any case Pickett's charge is part of the great glorious Lost Cause mythology of gallant, brave secesh who never lost but were unfairly clobbered by superior numbers -- and because Stuart went walk-about way too long, betraying the knight knights Lee. Otherwise they'd a won Gettysburg and continued the invasion of the north. They were however drastically short of competent officers after the Gettysburg defeat. But up to the very end, guns and ammo were what Lee's Army of Northern VA always had. Just no food. Damn right! Don't let them history books go afoolin you about the war of northern aggression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 3 hours ago, Kalbear said: Also, he really hates the US, period. And Wikileaks believes in that Rothschild conspiracy bullshit. about as valuable as david icke, then. anyone who peddles rothschild conspiracism is crypto-fascistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 3 hours ago, Kalbear said: Also, he really hates the US, period. And Wikileaks believes in that Rothschild conspiracy bullshit. That said, is it safe to assume that he's not a vampire? That cover is a bit over the top, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Greenleif Stark Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Just got this in an email.....thoughts? Interesting facts, Trump trumps HRC on social media………………. TRUMPED UP Very interesting. Given that the almost daily Trump rallies draw from 25,000 to 35,000 people, while Hillary's bi-monthly rally draws maybe a few hundred, it was always hard for me to believe she was leading in so many polls. Made no sense at all. Now I understand. The media wants everyone to believe she will win, in order to maybe sway some votes. Also, I had no idea she pays some of her "followers" . See The 5 Facts That JUST MIGHT Prove Trumpy Is ACTUALLY Beating Hillary! Let's take a look at the facts that the media completely ignores or covers up. Instead, they have been giving Clinton the lead despite the fact that she can't get anyone to even show up to her rallies. FACT #1: Trump has nearly three times the amount of followers on Facebook. Trump: 12,174,358 likes. Clinton: 4,385,959 likes. Look what Trump's live stream videos do when compared to Hillary's. Trump Live Stream Post - 21 hours ago: 135,000 likes, 18,167 shares, 1.5 million views Clinton Live Stream Post - 25 hours ago: 9,000 likes, 0 shares, 121,000 views That does not look good at all for her! Fact #2: Trump has 18.6 million twitter followers. Hillary Clinton has only 6.1 million. The best part is that most of Hillary's are actually fake. According to the Washington Examiner, 41 percent of Hillary's "followers" are not even real people. In contrast, The Daily Caller says that Trump's followers are 90% real with 90% of them having a previous voting record. Fact #3: Trump averages 160k viewers per live stream. Clinton averages 400 viewers per live stream. Wow. That is bad. Trump also gets 5,000 percent more eyeballs focused on the screen than Clinton. Yep. She really is that boring to the folks. Fact #4: Instagram. Trump has 6.2 million followers. Clinton has 800,000 followers. Instagram is a platform with mostly all pictures and not much substance - exactly what Hillary supporters love. And still she does very poorly in this medium. Fact #5: On Reddit. Trump: 297,696 subscribers Clinton: 21,429 subscribers But on Hillary for Prison: she gets 255,228 subscribers. Trump has more subscribers than Clinton on every major social media outlet but what is even funnier is that there are nearly 3 times as many people subscribed to "Hillary for Prison" than there are subscribed to the Clinton page. The best part is that the DNC's leaked emails from WikiLeaks have proven that Clinton pays people to support her online. Trump supporters on the other hand willingly actually like and follow him on Social media. Trump actually has the support of the people. He is going to win this election come November no matter what the mainstream media would like you to believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamMe90 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 8 minutes ago, the Greenleif Stark said: Just got this in an email.....thoughts? -snip- 1) Trump supporters are more vocal than most Clinton supporters. That includes being vocal on the internet. 2) Trump is generally more entertaining to view, for anyone, than Clinton (for different reasons depending on what camp you're in), so of course his live streams are going to be more viewed. I could go into more detail but it just doesn't... really seem worth it. I don't think the number of social media subscribers or rally attenders are very good metrics of how well a candidate is going to do on election day. Certainly not to the extent that we should disregard polling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Gettysburg today pulled in 500 people for him. Far from thousands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 5 hours ago, Shryke said: Trump doing some more waving of his fascist flag: Yup, that's his post-election plans apparently. Jailing his political opponent and anyone who spoke out against him. To be fair, though...this isn't just slapping down political dissidence. These people did actually personally accuse him of a crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 13 minutes ago, Zorral said: Gettysburg today pulled in 500 people for him. Far from thousands. There was also this pro-Trump rally held by Curt Schilling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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