A tought on the TWOW prologue

[LordImp]

The prologues follow a pattern , North and south . When the prologue is from the North in one book the next prologue will be in the south. But thats not the only pattern , when we have a south prologue it is from the POV of a maester. So the prologue POV in Winds will most likely be from a maester.

We know that Jeyne Westerling will appear in the prologue .

The last we heard of Jeyne was that she was being sent to the Crag to be with her father . So my prediction is that the prologue POV will be from the Maester at the Crag and we will witness something happening with Jeyne , maybe Blackfish or BwB will try to take her. Anyway i think the prologue will be about Jeyne and it will be from the POV of the maester at the Crag. 

[AlienCarnivore]

Pate wasn't a maester, he was training to become one. I really think the "patterns" people have noticed about the prologues are more coincidences than anything. There's no indication that the next prologue POV will be a maester. It'll most likely be a random soldier under Forley Prester's command, or even Prester himself.

[LordImp]

54 minutes ago, AlienCarnivore said:

Pate wasn't a maester, he was training to become one. I really think the "patterns" people have noticed about the prologues are more coincidences than anything. There's no indication that the next prologue POV will be a maester. It'll most likely be a random soldier under Forley Prester's command, or even Prester himself.

Pate wasnt a maester no , but it was at the Citadel and and he was surrounded by maesters . So i think its safe to say that the maesters are indeed a part of the patterns. 

[Nevets]

 

I think it is most likely that Jeyne will go with her escort to Casterly Rock, and from there go up the coast to The Crag.  My prediction is that the Prologue takes place at Casterly Rock, possibly with its maester as POV.  This would give Martin an opportunity to update us on events in the West and Riverlands, as well as the Lannisters in general, as well as giving us a look at CR, which I believe we have been promised.  

[LordImp]

48 minutes ago, Nevets said:

 

I think it is most likely that Jeyne will go with her escort to Casterly Rock, and from there go up the coast to The Crag.  My prediction is that the Prologue takes place at Casterly Rock, possibly with its maester as POV.  This would give Martin an opportunity to update us on events in the West and Riverlands, as well as the Lannisters in general, as well as giving us a look at CR, which I believe we have been promised.  

Could be. You think there will be a rescue mission for Jeyne? 

[AlienCarnivore]

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4 hours ago, LordImp said:

Pate wasnt a maester no , but it was at the Citadel and and he was surrounded by maesters . So i think its safe to say that the maesters are indeed a part of the patterns. 

 

 

Sorry, but the idea that George would throw in a "pattern" in his prologue POVs just sounds utterly absurd. That'd just be bad planning on his part, and I guarantee you if you asked him if there was a pattern he would call it coincidences. 

[LordImp]

8 hours ago, AlienCarnivore said:

 

Sorry, but the idea that George would throw in a "pattern" in his prologue POVs just sounds utterly absurd. That'd just be bad planning on his part, and I guarantee you if you asked him if there was a pattern he would call it coincidences. 

Let's agree to disagree. 

[Ser Scott Malkinson]

11 hours ago, AlienCarnivore said:

 

Sorry, but the idea that George would throw in a "pattern" in his prologue POVs just sounds utterly absurd. That'd just be bad planning on his part, and I guarantee you if you asked him if there was a pattern he would call it coincidences. 

 

4 hours ago, LordImp said:

Let's agree to disagree. 

 

On the one hand, there is definitely a pattern with Prologue characters: they all die. So far, it's also switched between a character north of the Wall and a character south of the Wall, and it will likely continue to do that in Winds.

On the other hand, with the characters north of the Wall it was a man of the Night's Watch in Game and Storm, while it was a wildling in Dance. Therefore, it might not be related to the Maesters this time around.

[1000th Lord Commander]

I was wondering if the Prologue would be an attempt to free Edmere and Jeyne, from Jeyne's POV, with her dying. (possibly Edmere as well, but I think that we can get more from him being alive.)

[aryagonnakill#2]

I definitely think there will be a rescue attempt on them, otherwise all Jaime's thoughts and actions in repeatedly doubling the guard and the bowmen surrounding Edmure with orders to kill him would be for nothing. 

It is not unlikely that there would be a maester in the party heading west.

[Beren_One_Hand]

It seems to me, that if there is any pattern with the prologues, that TWOW prologue wouldn't be from a maester's POV.  We have had 2 members of the Night's Watch and then a Wildling north of the Wall.  We have also had a maester and a maester in-training south of the Wall.  It makes sense that TWOW prologue would be from the POV of someone against the maester order.

[aryagonnakill#2]

Another possible pattern in the prologues is that the prologues from south of the wall show us some magic, and that the pov specifically dies via poison.  Cressen showed us Melissandre and was poisoned, Pate shows us the FM and was poisoned.  They also show us locations we have not seen previously, Dragonstone and Oldtown respectfully.

[LordImp]

3 hours ago, aryagonnakill#2 said:

Another possible pattern in the prologues is that the prologues from south of the wall show us some magic, and that the pov specifically dies via poison.  Cressen showed us Melissandre and was poisoned, Pate shows us the FM and was poisoned.  They also show us locations we have not seen previously, Dragonstone and Oldtown respectfully.

Indeed. Wonder what magic this prologue will have. Something about LSH maybe? 

[AlienCarnivore]

Jeez, I just really want the next book already. When will we have passed the longest wait for a book yet? March something, right?

[Wyman Manderly's Meat Pies]

On 11/2/2016 at 8:00 PM, LordImp said:

Could be. You think there will be a rescue mission for Jeyne? 

It's been hinted at that the Brotherhood without Banners will liberate the Red Wedding prisoners, would George have two rescues like that in the same book? Unless the Red Wedding prisoners and Jeyne cross paths and that's when they strike and we finally see the Greatjon Unchained.

[LordImp]

31 minutes ago, Wyman Manderly's Meat Pies said:

It's been hinted at that the Brotherhood without Banners will liberate the Red Wedding prisoners, would George have two rescues like that in the same book? Unless the Red Wedding prisoners and Jeyne cross paths and that's when they strike and we finally see the Greatjon Unchained.

Tbh , i have no idea what would happen with the northern prisoners . I read something about the northerners being sent to CR , but i dont know if thats true. 

With a upcoming Dance of dragons 2.0 Greatjon and the northern prisoners would be in a good position to form a new Winter wolves . During the first dance the Winter wolves was a northern army led by Roderick Dustin who supported Rhaenyras claim. 

[Endymion I Targaryen]

Before the release of the Forsaken sample chapter I considered the possibility of featuring an Ironborn attack at Casterly Rock (the attack at the Shields was a distraction). 

Now I believe it will feature the execution of all Westerlings (including Jeyne) for their role in the Red Wedding.

 

[LordImp]

1 hour ago, Endymion I Targaryen said:

Before the release of the Forsaken sample chapter I considered the possibility of featuring an Ironborn attack at Casterly Rock (the attack at the Shields was a distraction). 

Now I believe it will feature the execution of all Westerlings (including Jeyne) for their role in the Red Wedding.

 

Who you think executes them? 

[Endymion I Targaryen]

7 hours ago, LordImp said:

Who you think executes them? 

Lady Stoneheart. She knows from her spy about Sybelle's role at the Red Wedding and she is mad enough to think Jeyne was in the plan too.

[LordImp]

14 minutes ago, Endymion I Targaryen said:

Lady Stoneheart. She knows from her spy about Sybelle's role at the Red Wedding and she is mad enough to think Jeyne was in the plan too.

Agree . It's a big possibility that LSH kills Jeyne.