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The Last Kingdom II - NO MERCY [SPOlLERS Season one]

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You know, I find that I really hate Beocca. Maybe it is just my general dislike of clergy, but something about him just kind of annoys me. Maybe it's because I want to see Uhtred just go full Dane, but Beocca remind me of a little grey mouse, and I hate mice.

Also, does anyone else think that for the most part the vast majority of Saxons come across as absolute tools? Man, I feel like I'd be totally fine if they just rewrote history so those Germanic god-botherers got stomped out of existence.

That said, great first episode, I really enjoyed it.

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A solid first episode and they're off to a good start. 

I still think Dreymon is a bit too pretty and not blonde enough for the role, but I think his acting is solid and he's only getting better. Alfred is still great. I probably liked his scene with Ragnar and Brida the most.

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It seems to me like Erik and Siegfried is taking the role that the Ivarson's have in the book. Which means we'll probably get at least some of Sword Song this season. I wonder how much though, as it is probably one of the less essential books in the series (even if it is still quite good).

For a moment there in Eoforwic I though we were finally getting Haesten and I got all excited, only to be immediately disappointed

I wonder if that guy fencing with Aethelflaed might be Steapa?

 

Btw, what the spoiler situation with this thread? The title has a spoiler warning but indicates that it is only for s1? I figured I'd better hide some of my comments that might possibly be spoilers.

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http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/the-last-kingdom/47964/the-last-kingdom-series-2-politics-battles-and-arselings

The prominent role taken by Alfred and Aelswith’s daughter Aethelflaed this series required her to be recast with somebody slightly older.

“Some of the stuff that happens to Aethelflaed I don’t think they could have actually got an actual sixteen year old or anyone younger than that to play,” says new actor to the role Millie Brady. “She has a bit of a rough ride.”

The recasting has resulted in an odd turn of events in which mother and daughter pair Aelswith and Aethelflaed are played by actors with only six months between them in age. “It’s just good moisturiser!” jokes Butterworth. “We’re aged down and up.”

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On 17/03/2017 at 5:41 PM, GallowKnight said:

For a moment there in Eoforwic I though we were finally getting Haesten and I got all excited, only to be immediately disappointed

Did they say his name? I was a bit surprised with the casting at first, but I still thought it was Haesten. Why do you think it's not him? I don't understand why they would do the exact same scene if it's not him.

Speaking of casting, Sven's casting is really... really... surprising, to say the least. I remember him as being pathetic in the books, but not that sort of average-guy pathetic. And I was even more surprised with his scene with Thyra. They seem to have completely changed his character from the books. I remember him as being a sort of Joffrey basically, but here, he seems... nice. And just trying to live up to his father's expectations. And really in love with Thyra. So... WTF.

I'm disappointed not to see Ivarr Ivarson and his son. But apart from being Lothbroks, they didn't add much to the story. Erik and Sigefrid are more interesting. And the idea of not knowing how they will merge both Sword Song and Lords of the North storylines is exciting. I guess Aethelfled will come into the fold sooner than in the books.

 

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1 hour ago, Pliskin said:
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Did they say his name? I was a bit surprised with the casting at first, but I still thought it was Haesten. Why do you think it's not him? I don't understand why they would do the exact same scene if it's not him.

Speaking of casting, Sven's casting is really... really... surprising, to say the least. I remember him as being pathetic in the books, but not that sort of average-guy pathetic. And I was even more surprised with his scene with Thyra. They seem to have completely changed his character from the books. I remember him as being a sort of Joffrey basically, but here, he seems... nice. And just trying to live up to his father's expectations. And really in love with Thyra. So... WTF.

I'm disappointed not to see Ivarr Ivarson and his son. But apart from being Lothbroks, they didn't add much to the story. Erik and Sigefrid are more interesting. And the idea of not knowing how they will merge both Sword Song and Lords of the North storylines is exciting. I guess Aethelfled will come into the fold sooner than in the books.

 

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Well I guess he could still be Haesten. But since he left and didn't take service with Uhtred he's probably not going to have the same relationship with Uhtred as he has in the books.

But I certainly hope he is Haesten because he is probably my favourite character from the books and, aside from the dreads, he looked fairly much like what I imagined Haesten to look like.

While Sven might be a bit nicer than he is portrayed in the books it would still probably be a stretch to call him nice. Plus he doesn't get that much screen time in the books anyway.

Seeing as Aethelflaed has been significantly aged up, she's definitely getting a bigger role this season. Plus I think Athelred is supposed to show up this season.

 

 

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3 hours ago, GallowKnight said:

Well I guess he could still be Haesten. But since he left and didn't take service with Uhtred he's probably not going to have the same relationship with Uhtred as he has in the books.

Well, at this point in the books, Haesten had already betrayed Uthred anyway, so I was not surprised when he left directly after the encounter. He still owes Uthred for his life and freedom though, so the rest can play out quite similarly.

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I was imagining Haesten to be a young man though, like Uthred. When Uthred finally slays him in a duel, he's already an old man. So if Haesten is significantly older, that means the poor guy is on a wheelchair... Not really a fair fight. But I guess, the timeline and aging of the characters won't play out the same as in the books.

 

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Separate show and books spoilers.

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11 hours ago, Pliskin said:
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Well, at this point in the books, Haesten had already betrayed Uthred anyway, so I was not surprised when he left directly after the encounter. He still owes Uthred for his life and freedom though, so the rest can play out quite similarly.

Spoiler for the later books:

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After looking around IMDB for a bit it would appear that it actually was Haesten. And Sithric is also listed as appearing in the episode so apparently he was in there as well.

I haven't read any of the books after Pagan Lord so I'm probably going to avoid the other spoiler field.

 

 

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Waiting, waiting, waiting.  Read a recap on the UK Guardian.  Sounding good!

 

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