Lord Friendzone

Speculations, news, theories for season 7. (includes leaks )

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1 minute ago, Lord Friendzone said:

He can try to pity Jon against Dany or Sansa against Jon (already did that), but then Dany might be a problem for him and iron throne. She got 3 dragons and Varys or Tyrion who sees through LF schemes. Playing Game Of Thrones with Starks is one thing, with other skilled player the other.

That part of leaks is meh. Unless it's for Jaime, that would make somehow sense. If they count on Cersei's self preservation, from their point of view reasonable as Jon or Dany, but Tyrion would have to say something. He kinda knows her better.

I mean it would or will be up LF's Alley to encourage Jon to go to Dany, leaving Sansa there and hoping Dany is like her father and kills him or just takes him prisoner. It gets Jon out of the way.

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Just now, Lord Friendzone said:

That part of leaks is meh. Unless it's for Jaime, that would make somehow sense. If they count on Cersei's self preservation, from their point of view reasonable as Jon or Dany, but Tyrion would have to say something. He kinda knows her better.

Maybe we'll be surprised and Jon has a smart plan, maybe she is called Barbara Novak from a certain movie.....his hairstyle is very 60's....

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3 minutes ago, A Ghost of Someone said:

He is the evil smart guy keeping Cersei in power somehow. I mean, the people of King's Landing just lost their religion's leader and his deciples and they are not rioting? the Mountain scares the masses to death. I be you light his ass on fire and he will die. I just have a hard time believing that Cersei is going to stay in power another Season + for .... reasons.

Qyburn is the New Littlefinger.

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Just now, Meera of Tarth said:

Maybe we'll be surprised and Jon has a smart plan, maybe she is called Barbara Novak from a certain movie.....his hairstyle is very 60's....

He better have. While we're at it Cleganebowl could reddem this meeting. The dragonpit is on top of Rhaenys' hill or so? Why not brig some wildfire, Cersei is crafty.

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2 minutes ago, A Ghost of Someone said:

Jon is basically going to go there as a beggar. That sucks.

She has what he needs dragonglass, three dragons and a huge army. I'd rather is it as on equal terms but show set it up this way. He kinda has to come to her.

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1 minute ago, Lord Friendzone said:

She has what he needs dragonglass, three dragons and a huge army. I'd rather is it as on equal terms but show set it up this way. He kinda has to come to her.

:agree:

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5 minutes ago, A Ghost of Someone said:

Jon is basically going to go there as a beggar. That sucks.

I would gladly beg for help to save my family and friends too, there's no shame in it.

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5 minutes ago, A Ghost of Someone said:

I mean it would or will be up LF's Alley to encourage Jon to go to Dany, leaving Sansa there and hoping Dany is like her father and kills him or just takes him prisoner. It gets Jon out of the way.

Oh yeah, but then he's got problem of dealing with Dany, Varys and Tyrion who are smarter in this game. I think LF will encourage Jon to go there, we might have some scene of them. Although, not sure Jon will listen to him much, as he sold his sister to the Boltons.

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9 minutes ago, Lord Friendzone said:

She has what he needs dragonglass, three dragons and a huge army. I'd rather is it as on equal terms but show set it up this way. He kinda has to come to her.

Like a beggar.

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13 minutes ago, Leticia Stark said:

I would gladly beg for help to save my family and friends too, there's no shame in it.

He is placing his life on the line. Send Davos as an Emissary to cordially ask her to meet him at say, Eastwatch by the Sea to negotiate and alliance of sort. She is basically demanding (it seems now until proven otherwise) that all those who do not bend the knee will suffer the consequences. So, he is a beggar according to the leaks and not a real King. A King would not do what apparently the show is about to have him do. When King Torhen Stark bent the knee to Aegon, there were ravens and messengers send across the Trident through the night into the morning, he simply just did not cross the River and take his chances. He got what he wanted to save his people, his army and his family and a lower class of the same region, he had to negotiate to get to keep that.

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14 minutes ago, Lord Friendzone said:

Oh yeah, but then he's got problem of dealing with Dany, Varys and Tyrion who are smarter in this game. I think LF will encourage Jon to go there, we might have some scene of them. Although, not sure Jon will listen to him much, as he sold his sister to the Boltons.

But he leaves her there in Winterfell with Him. This is the show, not much makes sense.

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2 minutes ago, A Ghost of Someone said:

He is placing his life on the line. Send Davos as an Emissary to cordially ask her to meet him at say, Eastwatch by the Sea to negotiate and alliance of sort. She is basically demanding (it seems now until proven otherwise) that all those who do not bend the knee will suffer the consequences. So, he is a beggar according to the leaks and not a real King. A King would not do what apparently the show is about to have him do. When King Torhen Stark bent the knee to Aegon, there were ravens and messengers send across the Trident through the night into the morning, he simply just did not cross the River and take his chances. He got what he wanted to save his people, his army and his family and a lower class of the same region, he had to negotiate to get to keep that.

And why would she want to meet him if he has nothing to offer her? Unless he offers the North, but you guys would complain about this too. 

He is the one desperate for help, Daenerys doesn't know what is coming, so it's obvious that he needs to go to her and personally explain to her, otherwise she won't do anything. 

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11 minutes ago, A Ghost of Someone said:

Like a beggar.

For you beggar, for me diplomatic choice. If you see it this way, so he did with wildlings and Mormonts or Glovers. What else he's supposed to do? He needs things, he has to come.

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I don't know why you guys are so worried about Jon in Dragonstone. According to the leaks, Daenerys will be impressed by Jon and in the pics we saw he doesn't seem a hostage there at all. He takes the lead while walking with Dany and Missandei like he's the Lord of Dragonstone.

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6 minutes ago, A Ghost of Someone said:

But he leaves her there in Winterfell with Him. This is the show, not much makes sense.

There is Ghost and Lyanna Mormont. Come on, that is enough protection from sneaky LF. Besides, Jon is clueless about politicking and schemes. Much better to go to Dragonstone then be with this Sansa and LF drama and doinng who knows what. You really want to sit on his ass and thinking that everybody would have to come to them, because they're Starks? That's not how world and diplomacy works.

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17 minutes ago, Lord Friendzone said:

There is Ghost and Lyanna Mormont. Come on, that is enough protection from sneaky LF. Besides, Jon is clueless about politicking and schemes. Much better to go to Dragonstone then be with this Sansa and LF drama and doinng who knows what. You really want to sit on his ass and thinking that everybody would have to come to them, because they're Starks? That's not how world and diplomacy works.

Right?!

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Just now, Leticia Stark said:

Right?!

I rather for him to be active and do something he's good at and that is convincing people. Also, hell do things tht needs to be done and that is to bring more soldiers and give them better chances. Other than doing something that would bore the heck out of audience, besides LF is Sansa's rival or the one to deal with. Jon will meet plenty of people he has to meet and so much of a potential. If Jon would be in WF plot, people would hate it even more so than last season.

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12 minutes ago, Lord Friendzone said:

I rather for him to be active and do something he's good at and that is convincing people. Also, hell do things tht needs to be done and that is to bring more soldiers and give them better chances. Other than doing something that would bore the heck out of audience, besides LF is Sansa's rival or the one to deal with. Jon will meet plenty of people he has to meet and so much of a potential. If Jon would be in WF plot, people would hate it even more so than last season.

I already feel bad for Arya and Bran for being involved in the Sansa/LF mess.

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25 minutes ago, Leticia Stark said:

I don't know why you guys are so worried about Jon in Dragonstone. According to the leaks, Daenerys will be impressed by Jon and in the pics we saw he doesn't seem a hostage there at all. He takes the lead while walking with Dany and Missandei like he's the Lord of Dragonstone.

Nor does he have a Dorthraki/Unsullied escort when walking around by himself, or with Dany and Missandei. Hell if you look at it a certain way Jon is on a short vacation before the world ends. He in the south where its warmer( eh, a lot warmer then the North right about now. ), he visiting his father former residents( Will he doesn't know that ), he sight-seeing some dragons, and to top it off he surrounded by two beauties. One of them a Queen and the world most beautiful woman and the other a beauty who knows more then two languages and is from an Island where its natives are into nothing but peace and worshiping a fertility god! Sh*t I'm worried Jon might forget why he went south in the first place :drool:

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